Edina bans "sieving"

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DuluthHockeyBoy wrote:Also banned at Duluth East.
Any goalie affected by the sieve chant, left hockey long before he got to high school.
And we can't read the paper while you're team is being introduced either.
I am waiting for our AD to require students wear equal colors for both schools competing, and requiring one cheer for the opposing team for each cheer they do for the home team.
I also want the: "we got the spirit yes we do we got the spirit- how bout you" chant banned- implys that the other school has no spirit, which I think is disrespectful:)
Seriously- I'm all for cleaning up stuff thats really in-appropriate, but its gotten a bit silly.
Its called home-ice advantage for a reason.
It has gotten silly. Players block that stuff out. Some feed off that type of taunting. I think it makes for a fun atmosphere.
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Post by bronco2828 »

Wow. I can't believe how far "political correctness" has gone. Some chants I have heard is unclassy, but "Sieve" is part of the game. Will these school administrators be happy when the kids sit in the stands like a golf game and give the golf clap only when appropriate. Maybe the A.D. could borrow one of the "quiet" signs from golf. Give me a break.
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Post by nickmon3 »

Every year before Hibbing goes to section playoffs, we get a huge talk at school about how we cant chant inappropriate things at the games. If someone gets caught starting an inappropriate chant they get escorted out of the arena and sometimes get detention at school. But the thing is, most of the chants they consider inappropriate arent even that bad to begin with! The game is played on the ice, but the support comes from the stands, and the schools are taking away the students right to support their team!
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Post by starmvp »

Players definitely block it out, not sure about goalies. Contributes to an awesome atmosphere, but I can understand why the AD did what he did.
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slapshot445 wrote:I am a student at edina high school and I was sitting in the student section the entire game. From what I know the athletic director only told us to stop after we scored the third goal, and the only reason he could do this is he had an area to watch the game from below by the zamboni doors. There is no way this is permanent and even if he wanted it to be he would have to show up at every hornets game from now on and he would have to sit in the student section. However, many of the students did get pretty mad. haha someone threw a hot dog wrapper or something and hit him at the end and he had no idea who it was, you might think that's mean but i find it hilareous he shouldn't be associated with stuff that is out of school, even if it is high school athletics. it wasn't even played at edina.
He is the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR! He should be there supporting the school he works for. Its really sad when you show no respect for your athletic director. I hope he suspended the student who did that from all games for the rest of his high school career.
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Post by woodley »

You guys should do the "let the puck go by" song and just have a moment of silence when the word sieve comes up. . . .
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ryno44 wrote:
slapshot445 wrote:I am a student at edina high school and I was sitting in the student section the entire game. From what I know the athletic director only told us to stop after we scored the third goal, and the only reason he could do this is he had an area to watch the game from below by the zamboni doors. There is no way this is permanent and even if he wanted it to be he would have to show up at every hornets game from now on and he would have to sit in the student section. However, many of the students did get pretty mad. haha someone threw a hot dog wrapper or something and hit him at the end and he had no idea who it was, you might think that's mean but i find it hilareous he shouldn't be associated with stuff that is out of school, even if it is high school athletics. it wasn't even played at edina.
He is the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR! He should be there supporting the school he works for. Its really sad when you show no respect for your athletic director. I hope he suspended the student who did that from all games for the rest of his high school career.
At least they don't make a facebook group trying to fire their AD like Hibbing did last year. And yes, the kid that made the group did get suspended.
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[quote="ryno44"][quote="slapshot445"]I am a student at edina high school and I was sitting in the student section the entire game. From what I know the athletic director only told us to stop after we scored the third goal, and the only reason he could do this is he had an area to watch the game from below by the zamboni doors. There is no way this is permanent and even if he wanted it to be he would have to show up at every hornets game from now on and he would have to sit in the student section. However, many of the students did get pretty mad. haha someone threw a hot dog wrapper or something and hit him at the end and he had no idea who it was, you might think that's mean but i find it hilareous he shouldn't be associated with stuff that is out of school, even if it is high school athletics. it wasn't even played at edina.[/quote]

He is the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR! He should be there supporting the school he works for. Its really sad when you show no respect for your athletic director. I hope he suspended the student who did that from all games for the rest of his high school career.[/quote]


wow how about you calm down it's a hockey game for crying out loud and he was PREVENTING CHANTING and not just sieveing. as you can imagine everyone was mad that he was there and was controlling us outside of school. IT'S A HOCKEY GAME, NOT A TEA PARTY.
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Cupcake wrapper perhaps? I think so. :wink:
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ryno44 wrote:
slapshot445 wrote:I am a student at edina high school and I was sitting in the student section the entire game. From what I know the athletic director only told us to stop after we scored the third goal, and the only reason he could do this is he had an area to watch the game from below by the zamboni doors. There is no way this is permanent and even if he wanted it to be he would have to show up at every hornets game from now on and he would have to sit in the student section. However, many of the students did get pretty mad. haha someone threw a hot dog wrapper or something and hit him at the end and he had no idea who it was, you might think that's mean but i find it hilareous he shouldn't be associated with stuff that is out of school, even if it is high school athletics. it wasn't even played at edina.
He is the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR! He should be there supporting the school he works for. Its really sad when you show no respect for your athletic director. I hope he suspended the student who did that from all games for the rest of his high school career.
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Post by "R" »

Are you saying your from Edina and you don't want "(EDIN)Attention" :-k . Maybe you should wrap your head around the idea that the Atheletic Director is in charge of atheletic events for your school. What you chant is a direct reflection on him and your school. So don't be too surprised that he took action.
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Post by bardown30 »

The "sieve" chant is way overused anyways. Historically it is used for goalies who let in weak goals, but many fan sections think it works even when its a really good goal. However it should not be banned.

As a goalie, the "sieve" chant had no impact on me mentally. In fact, many times, it helped get my head in the right place to prove them all wrong and shut down the other team. It's ineffective unless the goalie has no mental wall and takes things way too personally.
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Post by DuluthHockeyBoy »

I agree GoldFishDude, the reading the paper bit never gets old. I especially like it when the moms and grandparents play along too.
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Post by ryno44 »

slapshot445 wrote:
ryno44 wrote:
slapshot445 wrote:I am a student at edina high school and I was sitting in the student section the entire game. From what I know the athletic director only told us to stop after we scored the third goal, and the only reason he could do this is he had an area to watch the game from below by the zamboni doors. There is no way this is permanent and even if he wanted it to be he would have to show up at every hornets game from now on and he would have to sit in the student section. However, many of the students did get pretty mad. haha someone threw a hot dog wrapper or something and hit him at the end and he had no idea who it was, you might think that's mean but i find it hilareous he shouldn't be associated with stuff that is out of school, even if it is high school athletics. it wasn't even played at edina.
He is the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR! He should be there supporting the school he works for. Its really sad when you show no respect for your athletic director. I hope he suspended the student who did that from all games for the rest of his high school career.

wow how about you calm down it's a hockey game for crying out loud and he was PREVENTING CHANTING and not just sieveing. as you can imagine everyone was mad that he was there and was controlling us outside of school. IT'S A HOCKEY GAME, NOT A TEA PARTY.
He has the right to control you guys, its a school sponsored event, if you don't like it, don't go.
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so all of you are saying that since he is in charge of the team that is playing he should have the right to tell the people who are watching the game what they can and cant say. nobody in this country should have the right to say that (especially if they only chanted sieve). If you disagree then god help you. What if obama told us all that we cant say bad things about other countries just because he thinks it poorly reflects our country? IT IS A PERSONS RIGHT TO THINK AND SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT AS LONG AS IT DOESNT CREATE A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT, AND CHANTING SIEVE AT A HOCKEY GAME JUST WONT DO THAT.
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Post by EREmpireStrikesBack »

greyhoundsnation27 wrote:I never liked the "sieve" chant. Not because it's unspotsmanlike, but for 2 reasons.

#1. It takes away from your accomplishment. Can you only score on a bad goalie? Would a good goalie have saved that shot? When I scored (which wasn't all that often), I liked to think it was something that I did rather than what the goalie did.

#2. Sometimes a team (team a) will totally dominate another team (team b), but the score will be tied late in the game. When Team A scores to take the lead, the crowd will start chanting "sieve" when the only reason Team B is in the game is because of the goalie. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I don't know, maybe I'm totally overthinking this, but those are my thoughts.
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slapshot445 wrote:so all of you are saying that since he is in charge of the team that is playing he should have the right to tell the people who are watching the game what they can and cant say. nobody in this country should have the right to say that (especially if they only chanted sieve). If you disagree then god help you. What if obama told us all that we cant say bad things about other countries just because he thinks it poorly reflects our country? IT IS A PERSONS RIGHT TO THINK AND SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT AS LONG AS IT DOESNT CREATE A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT, AND CHANTING SIEVE AT A HOCKEY GAME JUST WONT DO THAT.
YES!!!! my schools administration told us what cannot chant, and if we did, we would be SUSPENDED for 5 days. Do you actually think that you can do whatever you want at a school sponsored event?
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Yes you go to his school, you show up to his event and you follow his rules. And of course he is going to prevent chanting if you have nothing but bad things to say. Chanting bad things does create a hostile environment. Your ignorance to these things is troubling.
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Post by goalieguy_14 »

the "sieve" chant isn't an offensive chant (it is over used) but imo it makes the goalie wanna prove them wrong and not have to hear it again, at least thats what it did for me, and it is rediculous what some AD's think they can do, this didn't happen at a hockey game but 40 students at my school got suspended from athletic events because of a little incident at a girls volleyball game :shock: , causing our high school team to play the first two games of the year missing 75% of our varsity roster
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[quote=""R""]Yes you go to his school, you show up to his event and you follow his rules. And of course he is going to prevent chanting if you have nothing but bad things to say. Chanting bad things does create a hostile environment. Your ignorance to these things is troubling.[/quote]Your ignorance is troubling to ME !! It is a harmless chant, let the kids have some fun, I dont think I have ever seen a goalie who was called a sieve go skating off the rink crying because of the chant...your a joke, you ryno and the AD need to take a chill pill.... ](*,)
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Post by "R" »

It is hard for me to play this part on this topic. This year alone my fellow students and I have been pulled away from the student section, been called down to the office and have had long chats with administrators about chants. We were the ones starting those shaughnessy (spelling) at the first wb hill game and we learned from that. We had positive signs, negative signs, flags and horns taken away last night at the stilly game, along with chants stopped. I hate the restrictions just as much as the next student. Its just the fact that he doesn't realize who is running the show? I mean come on, throwingtrash at your AD? Seriously?
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Post by greyhoundfan »

it's definately not banned at duluth east. we did it every time tonight. but i agree that it shouldn't be used when a good goal is scored.
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Post by drop the puck »

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Bet ya that 80% or more of the HS Goalies do not really hear the chant anyways. The over emotional goalies more often than not are filtered out before HS Varisty.
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