Transfer rule - public to private, let's play RIGHT NOW?

[karl(east)]

They do clear up the definition of "Public High School district area". IF there is more than one high school in a district, then the "area" is the area as defined by "a board of education." What they are saying is that if a student's family moved from the area of DuLuth that Denfield serves to the area of DuLuth that East serves, the student is immediately eligible.
There is a statement in their handbook that clears it up though, according to the mshsl, a transfer is defined as: a student stops enrolling at their current high school and enrolls at a different high school. With that language, there shouldn't be a loophole.

That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

[major4]

dlhhockey
you make a great point, but unfortunately things are different in the hockey world, no matter where you are transferring, a "senior to be" goalie would never transfer to another high school if he did not know up front that he would be playing on the team. you would never take the chance of transfering and getting cut, because the senior can't play on jv..this is just the way things go in hockey

[karl(east)]

dlhhockey
you make a great point, but unfortunately things are different in the hockey world, no matter where you are transferring, a "senior to be" goalie would never transfer to another high school if he did not know up front that he would be playing on the team. you would never take the chance of transfering and getting cut, because the senior can't play on jv..this is just the way things go in hockey

I believe the player in question will be a junior this year.

[MrBoDangles]

Who cares they are only single A anyways.

[EHSHack]

To be clear, the East Senior who transferred to Marshall has little, if any at all, Varsity playing time.

[observer]

You know, let's just start listing them all. Name, old school and supposed new school and the stated reason they're able to play varsity sports when the rule says they can't.

Based on what I'm hearing the rule has no teeth and several kids are switching schools and not spending a season on JV. Instant eligibility based on several different loopholes. Totally unfair that some families get their way and other families do not based on weak arguments or a legal filing. The rule is a joke as it's not the same for everyone. Fall sports are right now and I'll guess there's 20-30 athletes participating with new school varsity teams that aren't destined to play a year of JV. Something smells.

[Rookie19]

A goalie is transferring into Mayo from Century . Family is not moving,
and kids does not have to sit out from varsity play. Reason for transfer and not having to sit out, kids were picking on him.

[observer]

OK, if that's an official reason then everyone can use that one.

Was there evidence submitted? Frequent crying visits to the office because of teasing. Is one visit the truth threshold or did there have to be more than 5 crying visits? What makes it real? Century is picking up a winner/whiner, with thin skin at that, that's sure to have a positive impact on the new team. Why won't the kids at the new school pick on him for the same reason?

[OnFrozenPond]

OK, if that's an official reason then everyone can use that one.

Was there evidence submitted? Frequent crying visits to the office because of teasing. Is one visit the truth threshold or did there have to be more than 5 crying visits? What makes it real? Century is picking up a winner/whiner, with thin skin at that, that's sure to have a positive impact on the new team. Why won't the kids at the new school pick on him for the same reason?

or does he have to shoot someone first?

[maskedfan]

So can anyone tell me that with the talk of kids transferring to Marshall and East, did it actually happen and will they even be able to play?

[hockeyhair15]

This seems like the reversal of the kid who came back to Edina last year from the private school sector. Apparently his folks lived in the Edina district before and after his move to the private sector so he was allowed to play both football and hockey once he came back to the public school. So how is this kid's move to Marshall any different? Do private schools really have defined boundaries that would require a move in and out? What is considered "out of bounds" or "within bounds" for a private school? I think a good attorney has a case for the vagueness of the transfer rule when it involves private schools.

the difference is that in the case of the Edina kid who left St. Thomas Academy to come back to Edina, he transferred for the 07-08 season under the old rule, which allowed one transfer - for any reason - during your four years of high school without loss of eligibility. A new rule went into effect in March of '08 for the 08-09 season. Any transfer that came after that date under those circumstances would have been ineligible. There was a loophole that any transfer for 0809 in which the paperwork was filed before March 08 was subject to the old rule. This year (09-10) will be the first year the new rule is totally in place.

Seems like all a kid would have to do to transfer from a private to public school is say they can no longer afford tuition, does anyone know if this is a valid reason?

[a1puck]

A goalie is transferring into Mayo from Century . Family is not moving,
and kids does not have to sit out from varsity play. Reason for transfer and not having to sit out, kids were picking on him.

Mayo picked up a couple of guys from Austin last Feb. I think they found a way around too. Not sure how.

[High Flyer]

This seems like the reversal of the kid who came back to Edina last year from the private school sector. Apparently his folks lived in the Edina district before and after his move to the private sector so he was allowed to play both football and hockey once he came back to the public school. So how is this kid's move to Marshall any different? Do private schools really have defined boundaries that would require a move in and out? What is considered "out of bounds" or "within bounds" for a private school? I think a good attorney has a case for the vagueness of the transfer rule when it involves private schools.

the difference is that in the case of the Edina kid who left St. Thomas Academy to come back to Edina, he transferred for the 07-08 season under the old rule, which allowed one transfer - for any reason - during your four years of high school without loss of eligibility. A new rule went into effect in March of '08 for the 08-09 season. Any transfer that came after that date under those circumstances would have been ineligible. There was a loophole that any transfer for 0809 in which the paperwork was filed before March 08 was subject to the old rule. This year (09-10) will be the first year the new rule is totally in place.

Seems like all a kid would have to do to transfer from a private to public school is say they can no longer afford tuition, does anyone know if this is a valid reason?

Yes, it's called a financial hardship, though you'll have to provide back up to support your claim. There is an appeal process that you need to go through, so it's not automatic

[21FROMTHEBAY]

the goalie is the only one from silver bay