Minnesota Hockey Summer Meeting - June 27th – 29th, 2008

hockeydog64 · Post by **hockeydog64** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:10 am

Minnesota Hockey Summer Meeting
June 27th – 29th, 2008
Best Western Kelly Inn
100 4th Avenue South, St. Cloud, MN 56301
Phone: 320/253-0606

Friday, June 27
5:30 – 6:30 PM Dinner
7:00 – 9:00 PM Committee of The Whole Green
Affiliate Discussion
9:00 - 10:00 PM Executive Committee Green
District Directors Meeting

Saturday, June 28th
Committee Meetings
8:00 – 9:30 AM Hockey Operations Ford
9:30 – 9:45 AM Break
9:45 – 10:45 AM Rules Halverson
10:45 – 11:00 AM Break
11:00 – 12:00 PM Publicity & Promotions Meisner
12:00 - 1:00 PM Lunch
1:00 – 2:00 PM Tournaments Gable
2:00 – 2:15 PM Break
2:15 – 3:15 PM Finance/Budget DeMeo
3:15 – 3:30 PM Break
3:30 – 5:00 PM Planning Bakke
6:00 – 7:00 PM Social Hour
7:00 PM Dinner

Sunday, June 29th
Board Meeting Agenda
8:00 AM Call to Order
Roll Call
Minutes
Treasurer’s Report
Agenda Additions/Changes
President’s Report
Executive Director’s Report
Committee Reports
Administrative Mgmt Adult Adult Women Audit
Awards Diversity Finance/Budget Girls League
Grievance High School Boys High School Girls Hockey Ops
Handbook Junior Gold Juniors MIAMA
Planning Publicity Referees Regional Coordinators
Rules Safety Scholarships Screening
Tournaments
USA Hockey Reports
Coach-In-Chief Disabled Girls/Womens Referee-In-Chief
Registration Risk Manager Directors
Old Business
R7 Rules Proposal Halverson
Armstrong -Cooper Perry
St. Thomas Affiliate Agreement Margenau
Holy Family Affiliate Agreement Margenau
New Business
Two Team Registration Hewitt
Armstrong-Cooper Perry
Conflict Of Interest Policy Olson
Rescind One-Site State Tournament Proposal Elliott
Off-Season Programs Green
Tournament Fee Increase Gable
Adjourn

Factsmatter1 · Post by **Factsmatter1** » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:23 pm

Please fix the Select 15 process. It's pretty bad in some districts and ok in others. Standardize the tryout process across the districts. No less than 6 evaluators MINIMUM. If no action then get rid of the program and let the kids wait until 16 and 17 which is significantly better.

Pucknutz69 · Post by **Pucknutz69** » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:54 pm

Factsmatter1 wrote:Please fix the Select 15 process. It's pretty bad in some districts and ok in others. Standardize the tryout process across the districts. No less than 6 evaluators MINIMUM. If no action then get rid of the program and let the kids wait until 16 and 17 which is significantly better.

Better yet "NO evaluators with kids in the tryout process"

greybeard58 · Post by **greybeard58** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:04 pm

The meeting starts tomorrow night.

greybeard58 · Post by **greybeard58** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:29 am

The Saturday committee meetings have started. Who plans on attending?

Ontheice · Post by **Ontheice** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:23 pm

Anxious to hear any updates and want to express appreciation to those who could make the trip.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:41 pm

On site tournament rescnded by a vote of 20 to 3.

hockeydog64 · Post by **hockeydog64** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:05 am

elliott70 wrote:On site tournament rescnded by a vote of 20 to 3.

Congratulations! Your hard work paid off!

What was the resolution on the private school affiliation agreement issues (St. Thomas and Holy Family)?

whockeyguy · Post by **whockeyguy** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:18 am

thanks Elliot , great work and for everybody who wrote in to MN Hockey,when you get a chance tell us more of the meeting

spin-o-rama · Post by **spin-o-rama** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:34 am

elliott70 wrote:One site tournament rescinded by a vote of 20 to 3.

Excellent!!!

TriedThat2 · Post by **TriedThat2** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:30 am

From what I was told, the rescinded vote was just a formality. The X had scheduling conflicts, and could not accomdate.

hockeydog64 · Post by **hockeydog64** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:59 am

TriedThat2 wrote:From what I was told, the rescinded vote was just a formality. The X had scheduling conflicts, and could not accomdate.

If it was just a formality, why would 3 board members vote against it?

TriedThat2 · Post by **TriedThat2** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:14 am

Dog,
We ARE talking MN Hockey here. That should just about explain it.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:39 am

TriedThat2 wrote:From what I was told, the rescinded vote was just a formality. The X had scheduling conflicts, and could not accomdate.

The matter of 2009 state was pulled because they could not get all the time at the X that was needed. The one iste event would still have been on record and used in the following year(s).
In fact they indicated they may try and still do it.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:41 am

hockeydog64 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:On site tournament rescnded by a vote of 20 to 3.
Congratulations! Your hard work paid off!

What was the resolution on the private school affiliation agreement issues (St. Thomas and Holy Family)?

St Thomas was denied an affiliation agreement.
Holy Family was extended for two years at which time it will expire (I believe this is what passed).

hockeydog64 · Post by **hockeydog64** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:56 am

elliott70 wrote:
hockeydog64 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:On site tournament rescnded by a vote of 20 to 3.
Congratulations! Your hard work paid off!

What was the resolution on the private school affiliation agreement issues (St. Thomas and Holy Family)?
St Thomas was denied an affiliation agreement.
Holy Family was extended for two years at which time it will expire (I believe this is what passed).

Interesting. Is the expecation at this time that in two years both Blake and Holy Family will sunset, and there will be no more private school affiliations? Is the door now closed to a private school or other private organization making an arrangement with an existing affiliation (e.g., the St. Thomas - Richfield deal that occurred last year)?

TriedThat2 · Post by **TriedThat2** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:18 am

Can anyone confirm the Holy Family issue? I heard that it DID NOT pass.

I don't think you can stop a private organization making an agreement with an existing affiliate.

SEMetro · Post by **SEMetro** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:21 am

Let me take a wild guess - redistricting put off until next year?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:46 pm

hockeydog64 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
hockeydog64 wrote: Congratulations! Your hard work paid off!

What was the resolution on the private school affiliation agreement issues (St. Thomas and Holy Family)?
St Thomas was denied an affiliation agreement.
Holy Family was extended for two years at which time it will expire (I believe this is what passed).
Interesting. Is the expecation at this time that in two years both Blake and Holy Family will sunset, and there will be no more private school affiliations? Is the door now closed to a private school or other private organization making an arrangement with an existing affiliation (e.g., the St. Thomas - Richfield deal that occurred last year)?

Blake & Holy Family will sunset, no more private school affilates.
Teh directin Blake was given was to 'attach' to an affiliate where the school is located or where a majortiy of the players live. Then form a team under the community based affiliate. Then they can draw kids from the local assn if needed or pass on their kids to the local if they cannot handle all of them.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:49 pm

TriedThat2 wrote:Can anyone confirm the Holy Family issue? I heard that it DID NOT pass.

I don't think you can stop a private organization making an agreement with an existing affiliate.

There were so many amendments going on and going back and forth and when I stepped out, I assumed or was told that the same thing as Blake was passed, but I cannot confirm it.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:51 pm

SEMetro wrote:Let me take a wild guess - redistricting put off until next year?

Re-districting is still with the discernment committee.
Greg Nagan is taking a stronger position in leading that committee and will have more meetings shortly.

hockeydog64 · Post by **hockeydog64** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:15 pm

elliott70 wrote:
hockeydog64 wrote:
elliott70 wrote: St Thomas was denied an affiliation agreement.
Holy Family was extended for two years at which time it will expire (I believe this is what passed).
Interesting. Is the expecation at this time that in two years both Blake and Holy Family will sunset, and there will be no more private school affiliations? Is the door now closed to a private school or other private organization making an arrangement with an existing affiliation (e.g., the St. Thomas - Richfield deal that occurred last year)?
Blake & Holy Family will sunset, no more private school affilates.
Teh directin Blake was given was to 'attach' to an affiliate where the school is located or where a majortiy of the players live. Then form a team under the community based affiliate. Then they can draw kids from the local assn if needed or pass on their kids to the local if they cannot handle all of them.

Thanks for the information. So if I understand this correctly, private schools (or possibly other private organizations) will still be able to form a team if they can find an association to attach to (like St. Thomas did with Richfield last year). But hopefully we won't see what we did last year with a team playing its season in one district and being in the playoffs in another.

observer · Post by **observer** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:00 pm

I don't believe Holy Family has recently fielded a Bantam team with their affiliate agreement which will sunset in two years.

St. Thomas will not have a bantam team as MN Hockey has voted to keep youth hockey entirely with youth hockey associations. Youth hockey associations have decided against favoring the formation of additional youth hockey teams in their communities and will no longer host additional bantam teams for schools. MN Hockey's vote is in support of their many member youth hockey associations. All communities, and the players that reside there, are currently covered by existing youth hockey associations and the need for additional bantam teams, at a level where numbers already shrink, isn't viewed as necessary by the broad majority.

Blake will sunset in two years. That is when their affiliate agreement expires.

This is good news as youth hockey will return entirely to the responsibility of youth hockey associations. Because there are no new affiliate agreements, and youth hockey organizations don't favor forming additional youth teams in their communities, hockey will have clear delineation between youth hockey (squirt, peewee and bantam, U10, U12 & U14) and all school hockey (high school). Not just private schools but all schools will host only high school teams. I think this is the best solution in regards to this discussion.

Thank you Minnesota Hockey for supporting your long time member youth associations with this vote. Maybe Blake will choose to end their bantam team this season?

hockeyboys · Post by **hockeyboys** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:24 pm

If we think this is the end of the discussion regarding school sponsored Bantam teams - I would guess we would be wrong.

Bernie is doing his thing at MM. Shattuck does theirs. The Fire in WI (yea - right - mostly in Minnesota).

There will be those who will just try something else. Will it be an AAU sponsored league? The Catholic League has football and other sports - would they just have thier own Bantam legaue for Catholic schools and private schools for Bantam teams? Minnehaha Academy used to run a bantam team through the Minneapolis Park system - not sure if they still do.

Not sure what they will do - or what they are thinking - but seems to me if they want to do something - there are ways. And all of those possibilities mean Minnesota Hockey loses players.

Any word on if any of these schools - especially St. Thamas - are going to try to go in another direction?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:47 pm

hockeydog64 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
hockeydog64 wrote: Interesting. Is the expecation at this time that in two years both Blake and Holy Family will sunset, and there will be no more private school affiliations? Is the door now closed to a private school or other private organization making an arrangement with an existing affiliation (e.g., the St. Thomas - Richfield deal that occurred last year)?
Blake & Holy Family will sunset, no more private school affilates.
Teh directin Blake was given was to 'attach' to an affiliate where the school is located or where a majortiy of the players live. Then form a team under the community based affiliate. Then they can draw kids from the local assn if needed or pass on their kids to the local if they cannot handle all of them.
Thanks for the information. So if I understand this correctly, private schools (or possibly other private organizations) will still be able to form a team if they can find an association to attach to (like St. Thomas did with Richfield last year). But hopefully we won't see what we did last year with a team playing its season in one district and being in the playoffs in another.

Yes, if they find someone willing to work with them, they can form a team.
Hopefully, playing a season in one league and the play-offs in another will not happen again.

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Minnesota Hockey Summer Meeting - June 27th – 29th, 2008

Minnesota Hockey Summer Meeting - June 27th – 29th, 2008

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