Whats your JGB top ten?

CoachGuy · Post by **CoachGuy** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:08 pm

Now that we have some more people visiting the site, let's get some people's opinions on who they think the top ten JGB teams in the state are.

CoachGuy · Post by **CoachGuy** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:48 pm

Here is my top ten. Elk river Burnsville Tartan WBL Orange Hastings Eden Prairie Black Eden Prairie Red Centennial Roseville appologies to: SSP, RAVE, IGH, rochester red, and WB black elk river has shown so far that they can beat the upper eshalon teams in the metro hockey league. Burnsville beat thier common opponents by more goals than did tartan. WBL orange has a loss or they would be higher.

MNHockeyObserver · Post by **MNHockeyObserver** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:26 am

(also posted on Jr. Gold B Scores topic) Rankings (opinions, scores and heresay - stay off my back) 1. Elk River 2. Tartan 3. South St. Paul 4. Burnsville 5. Eden Prairie Red 6. Hastings 7. WBL Orange 8. Centennial 9. Minnetonka 10. Eden Prairie Black Also receiving votes: Roseville, Edina, Brooklyn Park, RAVE, IGH, Chaska Some might seem out of place, but this is what I am hearing. Y'all are welcome to question my rankings, but hopefully you will post your own rankings for comparison. Good Luck to those of you associated with teams and those of you who just read the board everyday!

SLP Coach · Post by **SLP Coach** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:06 pm

Here is just another opinion on what I have seen, heard and the scores of games. (I can't really speak for Dist 8 teams or others outside of the MHL, therefore this is only a MHL ranking 1. Elk River 2. Burnsville 3. White Bear - Orange 4. Tartan 5. Eden Prairie - Black 6. Eden Prairie Red 7. Centennial 8. RAVE 9. Roseville 10.Edina Others Recieving Votes Include: SLP (they have the talent, let's just see if it can come together) Chaska (Played well at the Hutch Tourney) Minnetonka (We'll see for certain tomorrow-Tues) This is just one man's, current, opinion and it sure gets jumbled After the Top 5.

RinkRat22 · Post by **RinkRat22** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:13 pm

I agree with MNHockey - guy on the rankings, I think those teams from District 8 are much better than MHL! I am sure the whole state appreciates SLP, IGH & Tartan for the insight on their teams. It's kind of like showing your cards while playing poker. Keep up the good work! And Good luck to all teams!

SLP Coach · Post by **SLP Coach** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:23 pm

If I thought that there was any chance of me telling how our games go would in any way shape or form affect the outcome of any game in the future, I would not say anything. Do I say anything like for example...."our goalie is really weak glove high, our 2nd line can be taken out of the game if you'd just hit them ....blah...blah ... blah" Let me ask you this.... If there is an article in a paper that has the rundown of a HS, College, or Pro game.... Does it affect how the team plays the next game? Does it give away the type of play that the team has? Does it do anything at all except give the story line of one game? Yeah, I didn't think so.

freighttrain · Post by **freighttrain** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:43 pm

Mnhockeyobserver those rankings are pretty good but i dont agree that SSP should be 3rd. Hastings is the best team in district 8. 1. Tartan 2. Elk River 3. Hastings 4. EP-Red 5. Burnsville 6. WBL-Orange 7. EP-Black 8. SSP 9. Centennial 10. Rochester Red I wouldnt put us (IGH) in there right now because we are struggling right now. We have Rochester Red on wednesday at our place its a big game because either us or them will take 3rd in the standings. But i believe there should be 3 district 8 teams in the top ten. Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub33.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUser ... httrain</A> at: 1/12/04 3:02 pm

MNHockeyObserver · Post by **MNHockeyObserver** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:31 pm

ft, thanks for the D8 perspective. I will take that in when I update them (probably later this week to keep the discussion going). I read that SSP beat a Canadian team, an EP team (not sure which) and lost to a Wisc. team in a tournament recently and Hastings beat a Canadian team, and EP team (I assume the other of the two) and I think they beat Edina to win a different tournament. Still hard to tell which is the better of SSP & Hast. So in your rankings I would have to place them above the EP teams they beat. In the red corner: SLP Coach. In the blue corner: RinkRat22. Drop the gloves, fellas. I can feel the storm a-brewin'. My trick knee is acting up. Wednesday's board should be fun, as Tuesday has some exciting games - SLP/Mtka, EP-Red/WBL-Orange and EP-Black/Elk River. Guess I'll be putting some miles on the ol' Pinto.

coach guy sucks · Post by **coach guy sucks** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:23 pm

there is no way that the D8 teams are better than the Metro hockey league teams. tartan beat one of the best D8 teams (rochester Red) 9-2 and they beat Invergrove Heights 7-1.

freighttrain · Post by **freighttrain** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

"CGS" Tartan is the top team right now so how does just Tartan beating us and Rochester red make the MHL better.I would like to play Tartan again with our guys healthy. Also SSP beat one of the EPs at a tourney last week and Talking to one of the Tartan kids yesterday he said that Hastings beat them 6-4 in a scrimmagge at the beginning of the year.

coach guy sucks · Post by **coach guy sucks** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:15 pm

the scrimmage vs. hastings was a fluke. tartan had a 2 hour practice early that day and the scrimmage was at 9:45 pm at hastings. plus their best player was gone, which is still no excuse,.

RinkRat22 · Post by **RinkRat22** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:20 pm

I sure appreciate your lesson in forum edicate, Mr. SLPCoach. I was unaware that any of the hockey articles in the papers were untrue. I also unaware of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny being fantasy... that being said, I appreciate the banter and will consider this a W. As far as NSP tieing Tartan or MHL being better than Dist 8, we may never know. As far as SLP being a powerhouse - we know that not to be true at this point and perhaps you 'll find out very soon!

SLP Coach · Post by **SLP Coach** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:08 pm

Even I consider a 5-2 loss a "win" sometimes too. However, like you, that is only in my own mind. You may consider whatever you would like a win. And your welcome for your first free lesson in forum edicate. If you would like, being that you are so new to these boards, I would be happy to continue to educate you. I would appreciate you pointing out where it was stated that SLP was a "powerhouse" as you put it. All I stated was that the team should have consideration as long as things fall together as planned. The only way that would happen is if our team showcases their skills and starts to put numbers up in the win column, which as you so eliquently put it, has yet to been proven. I'll be happy to give you one point for stating: "you 'll find out very soon!" We'll all find out very soon........., including myself. Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub33.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUser ... h@mnhs>SLP Coach</A> at: 1/13/04 2:10 pm

RinkRat22 · Post by **RinkRat22** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:02 pm

For the record, I wanted to state that it was a little sarcasim on my part about Dist 8 being better than the MHL. I don't see it that way. It's just fun to razz the 3 major guys here: SLP, IGH and Freightrain. I find it humorous to hear about how SSP is tough and IGH played well here. I wish there was more of a mixed schedule and perhaps a playoff, but there isn't, I don't think. SLP can you help me?

SLP Coach · Post by **SLP Coach** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:30 am

Well, there is a playoff actually..... There is "District Playoffs" That have the top 12 from MHL.....<a href="http://www.ecm-inc.com/metrohockeyleagu ... fs.pdf">Jr Gold B Districts</a> It goes kinda different though. 1 Vs 8 2 Vs 7 3 Vs 6 4 Vs 5 Winner goes to Regional Playoffs ---- Loser goes into consolation bracket.......Where then they play the 9-12 placed teams......Winners of those 4 games play each other and then the Winner of those games .... one plays the 3rd place team from Dist 8 and the other plays the Champion of the Dist 4-11 (Division).... The winners of those 2 games go on to Regions. The top 2 from Dist 8 also go straight to regions ..... atleast that is the proposed plan that I saw on the MHL website. (please click on the blue links to view) If this is the exact way that it is going down or not ... well .... I can't say for certain. <a href="http://www.ecm-inc.com/metrohockeyleagu ... gl.pdf">Jr. Gold B Regionals 2002-2003</a>

RinkRat22 · Post by **RinkRat22** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:03 pm

Good luck, SLP with EP Black or a the Reiman Tourn. They are Top 5 and should win the Edina Tourney! Solid lines and decent goaltending gives EPBl a good boost in most games. I hear that they might be better than Red but that remains to be seen. I guess Burnsville beat Elk River soundly. That might assume that Burnsville might be tougher than the EPs. Or perhaps the Elks had another tough game with back-to-back with EP Black and B'ville. Top 5 are: 1. Burnsville 2. EP Black 3. Elk River 4. Tartan 5. WB Orange

MNHockeyObserver · Post by **MNHockeyObserver** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:54 pm

Ok, Rat, pay close attention . . . the topic is "Junior Gold B top ten." No more half-assed Top-5 efforts, ok? It would be silly for me to try to update my 10 too often as this league is proving to be a mix at the top. Have to wait until Monday I guess. Who knows when they will update that league website. What a joke. They have Elk at 12-0-0, but only have 11 scores in their team schedule. HELLOOOOO?!?!?!?! Can't move the EP teams just yet, Rat-Duece-Duece. Maybe not until Black actually beats Red. Does anyone even know if they play? I couldn't find it on the league website. Definitely can't put them above Elk because of a tie. Would like to see them play Tartan, too. Don't think your Top 5 can have WBL-O and not have EP-Red, though. Not after the whooping the other night. And take the word of some of the D8 folks on this forum, Hastings and SSP are for real. Plug them in your lineup next week. Hey Bville, did any of the tips on this board help last night?

BVILLEJRGOLD · Post by **BVILLEJRGOLD** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:12 pm

Yea, the tips helped. I also had a couple of guys I know that were at the ER vs. EP Black game so they were able to give me a pretty detailed report. It was a good game. Thanks for the tips! BVILLE

SLP Coach · Post by **SLP Coach** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:26 am

MHL Top 10 1. Eden Prairie Red 2. Burnsville 3. White Bear Orange 4. Elk River 5. Eden Prairie Black 6. Tartan 7. Centennial 8. Roseville 9+ about 10 other teams jumbled (If I were to add Dist 8 in this, I would add Hastings and SSP, as well as Rochester Red for how well they played this weekend) From what I know so far and what happened at Tourneys this weekend. I think I would have had B'ville at #1 until I saw that they lost 2 in the AL tourney, then they fell to my #2. Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub33.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUser ... h@mnhs>SLP Coach</A> at: 1/19/04 4:17 pm

mjbtartan · Post by **mjbtartan** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:57 am

We (Tartan) beat Eden Prairie Red 3-1 in the Rochester Tournament in early December. How do you have them ranked #1 when the other EP team has a better record and such?

BVILLEJRGOLD · Post by **BVILLEJRGOLD** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:17 am

It seems to me that White Bear Orange is a better tournament team than they are in league. Just an opinion. BVILLE

SLP Coach · Post by **SLP Coach** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:10 pm

In answer to your question/statement...... First let me preface this by saying this is only my opinion, take it for what you will. Opinions are one reason why this board is here. You are intitled to yours, I would be interested in see your opinion as well. (or anyone elses for that matter) My reasoning: First, We have played both teams and I thought that EP-Red was the better of the two. Could it have been that Red just played better against us than Black on those certain days? Sure that's possible. Second, Black lost to WB-Orange (who I think is one of the best teams in the league) in which Red put a beating on 7-3 recently. Black has barely squeak by wins against Roseville, RAVE, and recently Moundsview-Green. Sure they did tie Elk River which says alot, the way that Elk River has been playing, but then B'Ville beat Elk River 4-2, which very slightly loosens that accomplishment. EP-Red has just two league losses, one to B'ville and one to Elk River, while both were playing at the top of their game and both teams were undefeated. Again, these are just my opinions, I am not a master at this by any means. But you asked why I had placed them at the top and this is my reasoning.

MNHockeyObserver · Post by **MNHockeyObserver** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:35 pm

First, the precursor . . . mjbtartan, you played EP-Red in "early December", I would guess they are a better team now and the rankings are about now. Bville, I agree about a tournament team and my rankings place more emphasis on league play because some coaches play tournaments just for the hardware and some play just for the fun, but the league/regional playoffs is where it's at. Rankings are tough when top teams beat each other and comparative scores are usually worthless . . . so . . . Week of 1/19 1. Burnsville - with or without #13 and his antics. 2. WBL-O - could have been an off night against EP-Red. 3. EP-Red - could have been an on night (@EP) against WBL-O. 4. Hastings - taking care of business in D-8 and trying to scrimmage everyone else. 5. Elk River - back-to-back tie and loss; they will rebound nicely. 6. South St. Paul - good tourney showings, but starting to hate Hastings (Yes, I know you beat #1). 7. Tartan - Offensive explosions, but ask the Vikes - Defense wins championships. 8. EP-Black - Better record because they have played more games early. 9. Roseville - Will need good goaltending and more from the "yellow helmets" to go playoff deep. 10 (tie). USC / LSU / Okla / Mich - If the Metro League can have playoffs, can't college football??? Others receiving votes: Centennial, (a historically good) Edina, Gopher WBB, Mahtomedi & BAA (just for showing up every night), Wayne State. Love to hear your opinions. Awaiting anxiously.

RinkRat22 · Post by **RinkRat22** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 6:04 pm

After watching plenty of great hockey this weekend and getting some very skilled reports from Blaine, Edina, Albert Lea and Rochester - I have compiled my new top 10. I am sure there is plenty of room for arguement (at least I hope so): 1. Burnsville -unfortunate about the tourney this weekend, but good enough when it counts. 2. Rochester Red -if they smoked EP Red in the final this weekend that means they're playing extremely well! 3. EP Red -tough loss in Roch, but a very good and well-coahed team. They'll be there in the end. 4. Elk River -0-1-1 in a back2back games - still tough enough to still be Top 5. 5. WBL Orange -some time great other times not - still can beat the best. 6. Tartan -great scoring team, no D. Should be playing in A, but dropped down to win games - no props 'til playoffs. 7. Centennial - played good teams, lost to bad ones. We'll see. 8. Minnetonka -on a roll 8-0-1 in last nine. Playing a good brand of hockey and well disciplined. 9. Roseville -have not seen them play, if they are typical Raiders' then they're tough to the bone! 10. Edina -they are slow out of the gates but are playing much better. I too watch a lot of hockey and my opinion matters only to my family, my coaches and my players. There are are good nights and there are bad ones. For instance, SLP is a good team although they have lost 6 straight in Tournament games. They could surprise a top seed come playoff time.

BVILLEJRGOLD · Post by **BVILLEJRGOLD** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:57 pm

I am in a very tough spot to do the top ten. Our team is 10-0 in league with some nice wins. On the other hand, we have struggled in Tournaments a little bit. I am doing these rankings strickly on league play because when all said and done, those are the only games that matter. 1. Burnsville or Tartan, haven't seen Tartan play, good record though. 2. Burnsville or Tartan 3. White Bear Orange - Played well against us in Plymouth 4. Elk River - Very Solid squad, fast 5. E.P. Black - I will find out how good they are tomorrow night. Should be a good game. 6. Hastings - Good Record, nice wins over SSP 7. SSP - Solid, good couple of lines 8. E.P. Red - Starting to come around 9. Roseville - Have good potential 10. Centennial - Work Hard, good team. Things may be shaken up after tomorrow's games (1/21) Should be a good evening of hockey. Good luck. BVILLEJRGOLD

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