The SW Minnesota Marshall Tigers are hosting a Thanksgiving Holiday season-opening tournament this Friday and Saturday in their brand new Red Baron Arena.
Friday
Henry Sibley - Fargo Davies (ND) 6 pm
Pine City/Rush City - Marshall 8 pm
Saturday
Depends upon outcome of Friday's games.
Check back Saturday morning, I will know what's happening Saturday night.
Marshall 3A hockey
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Make sure you get there early! Four teams twenty parking spots!Teak wrote:The SW Minnesota Marshall Tigers are hosting a Thanksgiving Holiday season-opening tournament this Friday and Saturday in their brand new Red Baron Arena.
Friday
Henry Sibley - Fargo Davies (ND) 6 pm
Pine City/Rush City - Marshall 8 pm
Saturday
Depends upon outcome of Friday's games.
Check back Saturday morning, I will know what's happening Saturday night.
Mitch do you think the Davies stand a chance against this stiff competition?
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No kidding. They expect us to use the high school parking lot and walk.Whiner33 wrote: Make sure you get there early! Four teams twenty parking spots!
I noticed in mnhockeyhub that the rest of the games this season are still scheduled for the old Lockwood Motors Ice Arena. I wonder what that is about. I thought that the high school was moving to the new Red Baron arena for good this season.
Well it turns out there was plenty of parking spaces.
Fargo Davies beat Henry Sibley 4-3 in OT in a game that was kind of slow in the first period, and a barn-burner in the 3rd and OT.
Refs let things get out of hand. Sibley took a 2-0 lead and then Davies started crashing the net and I mean CRASHING the net and taking out the Sibley goalie who was outstanding.
In the second after yet another attack he needed medical attention which made the second period long. Refs were handing out too many niggling little penalties and it was infuriating the Sibley fans.
Early in the 3rd the ref whistled the Sibley goalie for a penalty and sent him off for a 10-minute misconduct. The other neutrals around me had no idea what the goalie did to deserve that, but Sibley had to bring in their reserve goalie. The refs had 5 Sibley players in the box with Davies having about 5 minutes of 5-3 hockey. They did catch up 3-3 until the Sibley starting goalie came back on. Anyway, the only goal he gave up was the OT winner.
By contrast, the second game was quite tame. Marshall put away a scrappy Pine City/Rush City squad 3-1.
Tomorrow's games:
Henry Sibley - Pine City/Rush City 3 pm
Fargo Davies - Marshall 5 pm
And yeah, there were several freshmen playing. Pine City have a pair of frosh defensemen who looked good: Gabe Westbrook and Dusty Bergstrom. Marshall starts a frosh defensemen (Kaleb Welvert) who has impressive eye-hand coordination, knocking several pucks out of the air from attempted clearances.
Fargo Davies beat Henry Sibley 4-3 in OT in a game that was kind of slow in the first period, and a barn-burner in the 3rd and OT.
Refs let things get out of hand. Sibley took a 2-0 lead and then Davies started crashing the net and I mean CRASHING the net and taking out the Sibley goalie who was outstanding.
In the second after yet another attack he needed medical attention which made the second period long. Refs were handing out too many niggling little penalties and it was infuriating the Sibley fans.
Early in the 3rd the ref whistled the Sibley goalie for a penalty and sent him off for a 10-minute misconduct. The other neutrals around me had no idea what the goalie did to deserve that, but Sibley had to bring in their reserve goalie. The refs had 5 Sibley players in the box with Davies having about 5 minutes of 5-3 hockey. They did catch up 3-3 until the Sibley starting goalie came back on. Anyway, the only goal he gave up was the OT winner.
By contrast, the second game was quite tame. Marshall put away a scrappy Pine City/Rush City squad 3-1.
Tomorrow's games:
Henry Sibley - Pine City/Rush City 3 pm
Fargo Davies - Marshall 5 pm
And yeah, there were several freshmen playing. Pine City have a pair of frosh defensemen who looked good: Gabe Westbrook and Dusty Bergstrom. Marshall starts a frosh defensemen (Kaleb Welvert) who has impressive eye-hand coordination, knocking several pucks out of the air from attempted clearances.
Litchfield beat Windom 8-1 in Windom. For me they are the team to beat in 3A this season. Hutch and New Ulm will be competitive again, but Litchfield would be my #1 seed.
Marshall is playing the top seeds early in the season: Luverne on Dec 6, New Ulm Dec 8, Hutch on Dec 10, and Redwood Valley ont Dec 15. That will be a good measure of where everyone stands early on. Hutch and Luverne won't be playing each other this season.
Litchfield
Hutchinson
New Ulm
Luverne
Redwood Valley
Marshall
Waseca
the others
Marshall is playing the top seeds early in the season: Luverne on Dec 6, New Ulm Dec 8, Hutch on Dec 10, and Redwood Valley ont Dec 15. That will be a good measure of where everyone stands early on. Hutch and Luverne won't be playing each other this season.
Litchfield
Hutchinson
New Ulm
Luverne
Redwood Valley
Marshall
Waseca
the others
Waseca is in 1A.Teak wrote:Litchfield beat Windom 8-1 in Windom. For me they are the team to beat in 3A this season. Hutch and New Ulm will be competitive again, but Litchfield would be my #1 seed.
Marshall is playing the top seeds early in the season: Luverne on Dec 6, New Ulm Dec 8, Hutch on Dec 10, and Redwood Valley ont Dec 15. That will be a good measure of where everyone stands early on. Hutch and Luverne won't be playing each other this season.
Litchfield
Hutchinson
New Ulm
Luverne
Redwood Valley
Marshall
Waseca
the others
Yup, my mistake. They are in the Big South league with Marshall and New Ulm, but in section 1A for the state tournament.Corn Cobb wrote:Waseca is in 1A.Teak wrote: Litchfield
Hutchinson
New Ulm
Luverne
Redwood Valley
Marshall
Waseca
the others
Results of Saturday:
Pine City/Rush City 4-2 Henry Sibley
Fargo Davies 3-1 Marshall
Sibley would have beaten Davies had they not had their starting goalie sent off for 10 minutes yesterday.
Marshall had a very poor performance today but I think that will be par for the course this season. They will need to get more than just Criquet-Danielson scoring goals (3 out of 4 this weekend).
Davies has a good squad. It was a nice season-opening tournament in an excellent facility.
Outside of Criquet-Danielson, who are the most likely 2-3 players able to contribute offensively?Teak wrote:Yup, my mistake. They are in the Big South league with Marshall and New Ulm, but in section 1A for the state tournament.Corn Cobb wrote:Waseca is in 1A.Teak wrote: Litchfield
Hutchinson
New Ulm
Luverne
Redwood Valley
Marshall
Waseca
the others
Results of Saturday:
Pine City/Rush City 4-2 Henry Sibley
Fargo Davies 3-1 Marshall
Sibley would have beaten Davies had they not had their starting goalie sent off for 10 minutes yesterday.
Marshall had a very poor performance today but I think that will be par for the course this season. They will need to get more than just Criquet-Danielson scoring goals (3 out of 4 this weekend).
Davies has a good squad. It was a nice season-opening tournament in an excellent facility.
I have no idea. Marshall had few shots on goal and the ones that they had were weak (e.g., into goalie's gut). Clay Stevens is a proven goal scorer but he takes penalities too easily IMHO. The sophomore Mason Plante has potential but didn't really show it this weekend.Corn Cobb wrote: Outside of Criquet-Danielson, who are the most likely 2-3 players able to contribute offensively?
The second line has a player that I like (Penske, very scrappy) but he just came off the football season and probably needs another week or two to get his hockey legs going.
This should have been one of Marshall's better teams in several seasons, but the effort against Davies was lacking. It just seems to me that Marshall players glide rather than stride (i.e., don't move their feet enough) and lack some hockey sense, for example knowing where to be positionally.
What is your view, Corn Cobb? Were you watching this weekend?
Wasn't able to watch anything this weekend. Just interested in sane opinions/conversation about 3A hockey. I do agree with you that LDC and Hutch are the two front runners for the section.Teak wrote:I have no idea. Marshall had few shots on goal and the ones that they had were weak (e.g., into goalie's gut). Clay Stevens is a proven goal scorer but he takes penalities too easily IMHO. The sophomore Mason Plante has potential but didn't really show it this weekend.Corn Cobb wrote: Outside of Criquet-Danielson, who are the most likely 2-3 players able to contribute offensively?
The second line has a player that I like (Penske, very scrappy) but he just came off the football season and probably needs another week or two to get his hockey legs going.
This should have been one of Marshall's better teams in several seasons, but the effort against Davies was lacking. It just seems to me that Marshall players glide rather than stride (i.e., don't move their feet enough) and lack some hockey sense, for example knowing where to be positionally.
What is your view, Corn Cobb? Were you watching this weekend?
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Thanks for the updates from down that way, if marshall can find some scoring after Criquet-Danielson (Possibly the best forward in the section) and continue to get decent goaltending I would think they would fit right in with Luverne hutch and New Ulm who I agree are all chasing litch.Teak wrote:I have no idea. Marshall had few shots on goal and the ones that they had were weak (e.g., into goalie's gut). Clay Stevens is a proven goal scorer but he takes penalities too easily IMHO. The sophomore Mason Plante has potential but didn't really show it this weekend.Corn Cobb wrote: Outside of Criquet-Danielson, who are the most likely 2-3 players able to contribute offensively?
The second line has a player that I like (Penske, very scrappy) but he just came off the football season and probably needs another week or two to get his hockey legs going.
This should have been one of Marshall's better teams in several seasons, but the effort against Davies was lacking. It just seems to me that Marshall players glide rather than stride (i.e., don't move their feet enough) and lack some hockey sense, for example knowing where to be positionally.
What is your view, Corn Cobb? Were you watching this weekend?
Hutchinson and New Ulm drew 2-2 in New Ulm last week. That tells me that those two squads are about even (duh!) and maybe only extra effort by one or other will be the decider later in the season.
This coming week is the test for Marshall: at home to Luverne on Tuesday, away to New Ulm on Thursday, and away to Hutchinson on Saturday. Whomever beats Marshall the worst would be #2 seed behind Litchfield.
I note that Worthington scored 3 goals in their 6-3 loss to Winona. Hopefully this is good for their morale somewhat since they have failed to score in the other 3 games. They skated 13 against Winona whereas they skated only 6 against a couple of other teams. Not sure what that is about, but I would hate to see Worthington not field a team any given year.
This coming week is the test for Marshall: at home to Luverne on Tuesday, away to New Ulm on Thursday, and away to Hutchinson on Saturday. Whomever beats Marshall the worst would be #2 seed behind Litchfield.
I note that Worthington scored 3 goals in their 6-3 loss to Winona. Hopefully this is good for their morale somewhat since they have failed to score in the other 3 games. They skated 13 against Winona whereas they skated only 6 against a couple of other teams. Not sure what that is about, but I would hate to see Worthington not field a team any given year.
Hutch isn't a contender with a tie of New Ulm.Corn Cobb wrote:Wasn't able to watch anything this weekend. Just interested in sane opinions/conversation about 3A hockey. I do agree with you that LDC and Hutch are the two front runners for the section.Teak wrote:I have no idea. Marshall had few shots on goal and the ones that they had were weak (e.g., into goalie's gut). Clay Stevens is a proven goal scorer but he takes penalities too easily IMHO. The sophomore Mason Plante has potential but didn't really show it this weekend.Corn Cobb wrote: Outside of Criquet-Danielson, who are the most likely 2-3 players able to contribute offensively?
The second line has a player that I like (Penske, very scrappy) but he just came off the football season and probably needs another week or two to get his hockey legs going.
This should have been one of Marshall's better teams in several seasons, but the effort against Davies was lacking. It just seems to me that Marshall players glide rather than stride (i.e., don't move their feet enough) and lack some hockey sense, for example knowing where to be positionally.
What is your view, Corn Cobb? Were you watching this weekend?
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fastncrash
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A few days into the season and your picking Seeds already? Wow.
Teak wrote:Hutchinson and New Ulm drew 2-2 in New Ulm last week. That tells me that those two squads are about even (duh!) and maybe only extra effort by one or other will be the decider later in the season.
This coming week is the test for Marshall: at home to Luverne on Tuesday, away to New Ulm on Thursday, and away to Hutchinson on Saturday. Whomever beats Marshall the worst would be #2 seed behind Litchfield.
I note that Worthington scored 3 goals in their 6-3 loss to Winona. Hopefully this is good for their morale somewhat since they have failed to score in the other 3 games. They skated 13 against Winona whereas they skated only 6 against a couple of other teams. Not sure what that is about, but I would hate to see Worthington not field a team any given year.
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Cool.better late wrote:Marshall/Luverne live stream on Msbnsports.net
I also know that Marshall has started live streaming home games. Search on youtube for "Marsh Sports Live".
Luverne with a 3-0 win last night. They aren't as good offensively as when they had Smedsrud and Nelson, but they are still a good squad and have two fine goalies. Their junior goalie Toftland (#2 goalie) played the entire game and had some nice saves. Kasyn Kruse scored on two break aways and Marshall spent too much time in the penalty box.
The Luverne hockey system is still good. They are well organized and retain their structure (positioning) on the ice. Not so with Marshall who are all over the place. I need to look back and see the last time that Marshall scored against Luverne in a game played in Marshall. My memory only holds several shutouts.
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I watched (and I DONT equate Good/Bad games to how many goals you score or not), BUT, was really surprised how Lazy that game was played. Fully aware it will not take 208 goals to win the Section, but would have liked to see at least some energy expended along the way last night. Just my opinion.Teak wrote:Cool.better late wrote:Marshall/Luverne live stream on Msbnsports.net
I also know that Marshall has started live streaming home games. Search on youtube for "Marsh Sports Live".
Luverne with a 3-0 win last night. They aren't as good offensively as when they had Smedsrud and Nelson, but they are still a good squad and have two fine goalies. Their junior goalie Toftland (#2 goalie) played the entire game and had some nice saves. Kasyn Kruse scored on two break aways and Marshall spent too much time in the penalty box.
The Luverne hockey system is still good. They are well organized and retain their structure (positioning) on the ice. Not so with Marshall who are all over the place. I need to look back and see the last time that Marshall scored against Luverne in a game played in Marshall. My memory only holds several shutouts.
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Was at the Marshall/Luverne game. First, what a great facility! Marshall has a place they can be very proud of! As far as the game I would agree Luverne had the better of it after a snoozer of a first period. Luverne may be better than I thought. Teak, been reading the board a while. Always appreciate your insights.
Well I appreciate the kind words and agree that we should be able to talk about Section 3A hockey without the Luverne-bashing that is prevalent elsewhere.better late wrote:Was at the Marshall/Luverne game. First, what a great facility! Marshall has a place they can be very proud of! As far as the game I would agree Luverne had the better of it after a snoozer of a first period. Luverne may be better than I thought. Teak, been reading the board a while. Always appreciate your insights.
Marshall lost to New Ulm 4-2 in New Ulm Thursday. It was a clean sweep for New Ulm that night. My daughter and I watched the Marshall girls lose 3-0 to New Ulm at the Red Baron Arena, and New Ulm boys JV beat Marshall JV 3-0. New Ulm has a good program but some of the girls hockey parents don't understand the offside rules.
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Teak wrote:Well I appreciate the kind words and agree that we should be able to talk about Section 3A hockey without the Luverne-bashing that is prevalent elsewhere.better late wrote:Was at the Marshall/Luverne game. First, what a great facility! Marshall has a place they can be very proud of! As far as the game I would agree Luverne had the better of it after a snoozer of a first period. Luverne may be better than I thought. Teak, been reading the board a while. Always appreciate your insights.
Marshall lost to New Ulm 4-2 in New Ulm Thursday. It was a clean sweep for New Ulm that night. My daughter and I watched the Marshall girls lose 3-0 to New Ulm at the Red Baron Arena, and New Ulm boys JV beat Marshall JV 3-0. New Ulm has a good program but some of the girls hockey parents don't understand the offside rules.
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Teak,
Appreciate your concern about the Worthington hockey team. Numbers have been a major issue with our team for the past three years. We started this season with 12 skaters and two goalies . . . unfortunately one of our team captains is out for the year with an ACL tear and hasn't played a game. Not sure where you saw the 6 skaters information . . . we had 11 skaters for the first two games, but it wasn't good, and we brought up our best bantam skater. Then we lost two other kids due to injuries (scary concussion due to a boarding vs. St. Peter/LeSeuer and a broken collarbone vs. Windom), so we are currently at 10 skaters. Somehow we managed to put our best game together on Friday night despite the adversity and defeated Breckenridge/Wapheton 4-2 for our first win in 23 months. We're trying to stay positive and to get better - next year we should have a full roster with a big 9th grade class and only losing one senior. But we are young and will take our lumps this year against better and deeper competiton.
I'm impressed with Waseca winning in Luverne tonight, St. Peter losing to LDC by one goal the other night, and Marshall only losing to Hutch by one goal. The Big South conference has some decent hockey going on up to now.
Appreciate your concern about the Worthington hockey team. Numbers have been a major issue with our team for the past three years. We started this season with 12 skaters and two goalies . . . unfortunately one of our team captains is out for the year with an ACL tear and hasn't played a game. Not sure where you saw the 6 skaters information . . . we had 11 skaters for the first two games, but it wasn't good, and we brought up our best bantam skater. Then we lost two other kids due to injuries (scary concussion due to a boarding vs. St. Peter/LeSeuer and a broken collarbone vs. Windom), so we are currently at 10 skaters. Somehow we managed to put our best game together on Friday night despite the adversity and defeated Breckenridge/Wapheton 4-2 for our first win in 23 months. We're trying to stay positive and to get better - next year we should have a full roster with a big 9th grade class and only losing one senior. But we are young and will take our lumps this year against better and deeper competiton.
I'm impressed with Waseca winning in Luverne tonight, St. Peter losing to LDC by one goal the other night, and Marshall only losing to Hutch by one goal. The Big South conference has some decent hockey going on up to now.