Apple Valley over #1 Duluth East 6-3

AlterEagle · Post by **AlterEagle** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:09 pm

Wow this is a year to remember!

hockeyfan893 · Post by **hockeyfan893** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:12 pm

Makes you wonder why we even bother with rankings anymore

HockeyMN1 · Post by **HockeyMN1** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:14 pm

hockeyfan893 wrote:Makes you wonder why we even bother with rankings anymore

There is just simply no team that has emerged as the best this year. I thought it was EP for a couple weeks and then they drop one in Duluth who just lost to AV who EP manhandled in their first game...Who knows anymore.

AlterEagle · Post by **AlterEagle** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:18 pm

HockeyMN1 wrote:
hockeyfan893 wrote:Makes you wonder why we even bother with rankings anymore
There is just simply no team that has emerged as the best this year. I thought it was EP for a couple weeks and then they drop one in Duluth who just lost to AV who EP manhandled in their first game...Who knows anymore.

It's just not safe to have an off night anymore!!!!

Post by **karl(east)** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:35 pm

My thoughts on this one from another thread:

karl(east) wrote:Reaction to East's 6-3 loss to Apple Valley.

The first two periods were ugly. East looked flat and uncreative. AV took control with a very strong forecheck and good breakouts of their own. East simply did not sustain the pressure. If I can offer another critique of East, it's that they let other teams determine the flow of the game for a little too much time, and that was certainly the case tonight.

However, they did respond well in the 3rd period. Plenty of teams would fold up like a house of cards when down 4-0 after 2, but East came out and fought. They scored two in the first 6 minutes of the period and were pressuring for more; the referees missed what appeared to be a pretty blatant interference call right in front of the AV net, and Hudson Fasching then took the puck and flew down the ice through the East D to net the 5th goal. East still didn't give up, but that goal was the backbreaker. (Not that I'm making excuses on the missed penalty--championship teams overcome that, and don't let the other team's star walk through them to score a goal immediately afterwards.)

AV's stars shined tonight. The defensive pairing of Smith and Pedrie is right up there with EP's Molenaar-Seeler among the best in the state. Michaelson and Fasching had great games, and Gretz made some big saves, including stopping Trevor Olson on a SH breakaway in the 3rd that would've made it a 1-goal game. And by taking control early, they protected themselves from their weakness (lack of depth). This is exactly the sort of game AV needs to play if they want to get back into the statewide picture. This is how they need to win, and if they play the perfect game--as they did tonight--they can beat anyone.

Obviously this is a setback for East, but it's better to get this out of their system now. I was encouraged to see them fight back and maintain their composure, and Conner Valesano deserves a shoutout for twice scoring goals when it looked bleak. Sometimes it's okay to be a little selfish, as he was on the first one. East also needs to work on their slow starts to games. I believe they've given up the first goal in just about every game they've had against an upper-end opponent. Hopefully they can learn from this one and get back on track. It's disappointing, but a mid-January loss to a good team that played a great game is no cause for serious concern.

We've known all along that AV has the top-end talent to play with anyone. They haven't always shown that, but tonight they sure did. Congrats to AV, but they still have a lot of work to do...

Post by **east hockey** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:37 pm

karl(east) wrote:My thoughts on this one from another thread:

karl(east) wrote:Reaction to East's 6-3 loss to Apple Valley.

The first two periods were ugly. East looked flat and uncreative. AV took control with a very strong forecheck and good breakouts of their own. East simply did not sustain the pressure. If I can offer another critique of East, it's that they let other teams determine the flow of the game for a little too much time, and that was certainly the case tonight.

However, they did respond well in the 3rd period. Plenty of teams would fold up like a house of cards when down 4-0 after 2, but East came out and fought. They scored two in the first 6 minutes of the period and were pressuring for more; the referees missed what appeared to be a pretty blatant interference call right in front of the AV net, and Hudson Fasching then took the puck and flew down the ice through the East D to net the 5th goal. East still didn't give up, but that goal was the backbreaker. (Not that I'm making excuses on the missed penalty--championship teams overcome that, and don't let the other team's star walk through them to score a goal immediately afterwards.)

AV's stars shined tonight. The defensive pairing of Smith and Pedrie is right up there with EP's Molenaar-Seeler among the best in the state. Michaelson and Fasching had great games, and Gretz made some big saves, including stopping Trevor Olson on a SH breakaway in the 3rd that would've made it a 1-goal game. And by taking control early, they protected themselves from their weakness (lack of depth). This is exactly the sort of game AV needs to play if they want to get back into the statewide picture. This is how they need to win, and if they play the perfect game--as they did tonight--they can beat anyone.

Obviously this is a setback for East, but it's better to get this out of their system now. I was encouraged to see them fight back and maintain their composure, and Conner Valesano deserves a shoutout for twice scoring goals when it looked bleak. Sometimes it's okay to be a little selfish, as he was on the first one. East also needs to work on their slow starts to games. I believe they've given up the first goal in just about every game they've had against an upper-end opponent. Hopefully they can learn from this one and get back on track. It's disappointing, but a mid-January loss to a good team that played a great game is no cause for serious concern.
We've known all along that AV has the top-end talent to play with anyone. They haven't always shown that, but tonight they sure did. Congrats to AV, but they still have a lot of work to do...

As does East.

Lee

dulutheastfan · Post by **dulutheastfan** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:32 pm

Really ha

Randolph will whip em in shape w/e not the typical east team guess it happens sometimes

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:59 am

This just made this year of high school hockey even better. When it comes playoff time, we are going to see some upsets this year.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:51 am

I was surprised by this game!!! I thought east would walk through the rest of the regular season. Including Tue. night [FL] AV had good teams when the 94 and 95 kids were coming up. I'm sure they have had more then a few w/ east.

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:21 am

I think this is great for AV as they were struggling. It's going to be another good one against Eagan on the 5th...

Scout716 · Post by **Scout716** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:03 am

Was a good game to be at. energy in the building was very high. Saw some very quality skilled players, good role position players as well. Both team have quality coaches and prgrams.

crosscheck20 · Post by **crosscheck20** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:41 am

Just shows how much rankings dont mean anything yet. Duluth East isnt anything special and apple valley showed them.

AV PUCK 17 · Post by **AV PUCK 17** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:46 am

AV played the way i know they can play last night. They completely controlled the game. Also Coach Hayes split up hudson and aj and i think the lines are now much more balanced.

slyer · Post by **slyer** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:19 pm

east didn't look so great to me against av, by the way people talk on here i thought they were never going to get beat again, jojo must have not been good at all .800 save per. yikes nice going av. ep is still #1 to me, look at there schedule, this MEANS alot, they don't play weak teams

underthenbar01 · Post by **underthenbar01** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:51 pm

Its games like these that make me that much more excited for the tourney this year!!

EHSHack · Post by **EHSHack** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:34 pm

crosscheck20 wrote:Just shows how much rankings dont mean anything yet. Duluth East isnt anything special and apple valley showed them.

Oh good one

Jesus East loses one game and everyone crucifies them...

Pioneerprideguy · Post by **Pioneerprideguy** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:52 pm

EHSHack wrote:
crosscheck20 wrote:Just shows how much rankings dont mean anything yet. Duluth East isnt anything special and apple valley showed them.
Oh good one Jesus East loses one game and everyone crucifies them...

They won 1 game (EP) and everyone wanted to annoint them.

EHSHack · Post by **EHSHack** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:19 pm

Pioneerprideguy wrote:
EHSHack wrote:
crosscheck20 wrote:Just shows how much rankings dont mean anything yet. Duluth East isnt anything special and apple valley showed them.
Oh good one Jesus East loses one game and everyone crucifies them...
They won 1 game (EP) and everyone wanted to annoint them.

There is a difference between East beating the #1 while being ranked #3 (or close) and people saying they should be #1, and them losing a game and people saying they are a run of the mill team like Central.

Post by **east hockey** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:59 pm

Pioneerprideguy wrote:
EHSHack wrote:
crosscheck20 wrote:Just shows how much rankings dont mean anything yet. Duluth East isnt anything special and apple valley showed them.
Oh good one Jesus East loses one game and everyone crucifies them...
They won 1 game (EP) and everyone wanted to annoint them.

Hopefully not with Holy Water!

Lee

Pioneerprideguy · Post by **Pioneerprideguy** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:59 pm

The Hounds are a top 5 team, will win their section, and will be playing in the State Semis Friday night.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:53 pm

Pioneerprideguy wrote:The Hounds are a top 5 team, will win their section, and will be playing in the State Semis Friday night.

With all the parity we're seeing this year, you probably don't want to bet the farm on predictions of this sort. I agree East is very much a favorite to win their section, but even that's not a sure thing - Grand Rapids might have something to say about it. But assuming the Hounds do end up winning their section, is it a given they'll win their quarterfinal game at State? Much depends on seeding - if they happen to be seeded 5th who knows who they might they play? Apple Valley, Eagan, Hill Murray, Edina, EP, BSM, Minnetonka, Wayzata - any of these matchups would be tough.

All that said, I do agree that East will end up making the tourney and will probably nab a top 4 seed. I'm just saying there is a lot of parity which equals uncertainty. It's easy to throw predictions out there, but if you were betting real money it would be wise to hedge your bets just a little at this point.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:02 pm

Great post, earning a top 4 seed the best you can hope for is a shot at section 1AA, and even the two lakeville schools have surprised a good team or two this year. Its got to be the most even playing field in recent memory. As much as it pains me to say this I think come tourney time HM will be a the team to beat. Not a private hater but they are likely the deepest team in the state like usual.

DEHS Dan Green · Post by **DEHS Dan Green** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:57 pm

dulutheastfan wrote: Really ha

Randolph will whip em in shape w/e not the typical east team guess it happens sometimes

It was a trap game. I talked to one of the defensmen today, and they had a 6 hour practice after school. Mike was pretty mad.

dlhhockey · Post by **dlhhockey** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:06 pm

DEHS Dan Green wrote:
dulutheastfan wrote: Really ha

Randolph will whip em in shape w/e not the typical east team guess it happens sometimes
It was a trap game. I talked to one of the defensmen today, and they had a 6 hour practice after school. Mike was pretty mad.

Yes, he was upset, and who wouldn't be with how they played. Having said that, they were coming off some emotional wins throughout the week. One game doesn't make the team or season (a great win over EP or a loss to AV). Other than that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Your "defenseman" is a pretty bad source and making you look bad

WHAFightingSaints · Post by **WHAFightingSaints** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:10 pm

I'm guessing a 6 hour practice might be against the rules, so your source may be embellishing just a bit.

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