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the_juiceman
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far as I know--there are 3 goalies & two teams (2on B1 & 1 on B2)--unless one is indeed transfering out
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the_juiceman wrote:far as I know--there are 3 goalies & two teams (2on B1 & 1 on B2)--unless one is indeed transfering out
From what I heard 1 goalie from the B1 is transferring out. That would leave 1 on the B1 and 1 on the B2. One of the Board members could confirm this as he is the one recruiting these players.
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blueliner5 wrote:
the_juiceman wrote:far as I know--there are 3 goalies & two teams (2on B1 & 1 on B2)--unless one is indeed transfering out
From what I heard 1 goalie from the B1 is transferring out. That would leave 1 on the B1 and 1 on the B2. One of the Board members could confirm this as he is the one recruiting these players.
This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc.

Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them

Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems
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loveitorleaveit wrote:
blueliner5 wrote:
the_juiceman wrote:far as I know--there are 3 goalies & two teams (2on B1 & 1 on B2)--unless one is indeed transfering out
From what I heard 1 goalie from the B1 is transferring out. That would leave 1 on the B1 and 1 on the B2. One of the Board members could confirm this as he is the one recruiting these players.
This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc.

Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them

Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems
Keep up the good work? Maybe I am being too critical, but I don't think anyone is too worried when they see the Cardinals on the schedule. Besides not being able to field competitive teams with any consistency, it sounds like they lose talent to neighboring programs regularly as well.

What's going on over there.
Solving all of hockey's problems since Feb 2009.
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HockeyDad41 wrote:
loveitorleaveit wrote:
blueliner5 wrote: From what I heard 1 goalie from the B1 is transferring out. That would leave 1 on the B1 and 1 on the B2. One of the Board members could confirm this as he is the one recruiting these players.
This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc.

Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them

Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems
Keep up the good work? Maybe I am being too critical, but I don't think anyone is too worried when they see the Cardinals on the schedule. Besides not being able to field competitive teams with any consistency, it sounds like they lose talent to neighboring programs regularly as well.

What's going on over there.
So true - I got my last son out of the mess this year and hope he can now have fun at the high school level instead
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Post by kopernicus »

this is sad.

once upon a time there was a huge CR youth program. it has been a while.

is the decline due to lack of participation locally?
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kopernicus wrote:this is sad.

once upon a time there was a huge CR youth program. it has been a while.

is the decline due to lack of participation locally?
low #'s have alot to do with it. also, with the HS program in the shape it has been for 3-4 years, kids seem to be leaving at the bantam level to set themselves up for HS. Hopefully, the new HS coach can stick around for awhile and build it back up.
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loveitorleaveit wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:
loveitorleaveit wrote: This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc.

Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them

Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems
Keep up the good work? Maybe I am being too critical, but I don't think anyone is too worried when they see the Cardinals on the schedule. Besides not being able to field competitive teams with any consistency, it sounds like they lose talent to neighboring programs regularly as well.

What's going on over there.
So true - I got my last son out of the mess this year and hope he can now have fun at the high school level instead
Loveit--you seem to talking out both sides of your mouth--which is it? was your initial post sarcasm?
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the_juiceman wrote:
loveitorleaveit wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote: Keep up the good work? Maybe I am being too critical, but I don't think anyone is too worried when they see the Cardinals on the schedule. Besides not being able to field competitive teams with any consistency, it sounds like they lose talent to neighboring programs regularly as well.

What's going on over there.
So true - I got my last son out of the mess this year and hope he can now have fun at the high school level instead
Loveit--you seem to talking out both sides of your mouth--which is it? was your initial post sarcasm?
"This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc. Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them. Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems"

I didn't say I took my kid out of CR - I just got him out of the youth program which is where all this stuff starts.
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loveitorleaveit wrote:
the_juiceman wrote:
loveitorleaveit wrote: So true - I got my last son out of the mess this year and hope he can now have fun at the high school level instead
Loveit--you seem to talking out both sides of your mouth--which is it? was your initial post sarcasm?
"This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc. Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them. Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems"

I didn't say I took my kid out of CR - I just got him out of the youth program which is where all this stuff starts.
What do you mean you took him out of the youth program? If, he is still playing hockey within YOU don't make that decision just to take him OUT of the program, unless he is a sophomore and is bantam eligible then I can see him leaving the youth moving onto High School. Since when is it good for a program to keep losing numbers? :roll:
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Post by blueliner5 »

kopernicus wrote:this is sad.

once upon a time there was a huge CR youth program. it has been a while.

is the decline due to lack of participation locally?


I think Associations are feeling numbers are down due to the economy and expense. Coon Rapids is really trying hard to build it back up at the beginners age. The last 2 years have been pretty bad and I know the bashing I will take for saying this, but most of it is due to the coaching at the Bantam level up to the High School level. Parents feel there child deserves more in coaching than what they have to offer. If, by chance you watched the "A" Bantam team and the High School play last year there were alot of comparisons to each other which did not advance the players to a higher level of play. No systems (power play, short handed, breakout etc.) all the HS coach did was roll the lines and that included when they were on the power play. No power play unit at all. To me you put your best 5 players out there no matter if all 5 are forwards or defense. I know 1 parent that made it a habit to watch there practices and games which did make the decision for him to transfer out of CR
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blueliner5 wrote:
kopernicus wrote:this is sad.

once upon a time there was a huge CR youth program. it has been a while.

is the decline due to lack of participation locally?


I think Associations are feeling numbers are down due to the economy and expense. Coon Rapids is really trying hard to build it back up at the beginners age. The last 2 years have been pretty bad and I know the bashing I will take for saying this, but most of it is due to the coaching at the Bantam level up to the High School level. Parents feel there child deserves more in coaching than what they have to offer. If, by chance you watched the "A" Bantam team and the High School play last year there were alot of comparisons to each other which did not advance the players to a higher level of play. No systems (power play, short handed, breakout etc.) all the HS coach did was roll the lines and that included when they were on the power play. No power play unit at all. To me you put your best 5 players out there no matter if all 5 are forwards or defense. I know 1 parent that made it a habit to watch there practices and games which did make the decision for him to transfer out of CR
Blue--I agree with your take on the coaching. It's too bad it has gotten to this point. There was alot of talent on the A Bantam team last year.
If all the kids that left over the last 2 or 3 years (8-9 kids) had stayed, the HS school team would be very competitive now and for the next couple years. then the trickle down effect begins and current PeeWee parents start talking about getting out.
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the_juiceman wrote:
blueliner5 wrote:
kopernicus wrote:this is sad.

once upon a time there was a huge CR youth program. it has been a while.

is the decline due to lack of participation locally?


I think Associations are feeling numbers are down due to the economy and expense. Coon Rapids is really trying hard to build it back up at the beginners age. The last 2 years have been pretty bad and I know the bashing I will take for saying this, but most of it is due to the coaching at the Bantam level up to the High School level. Parents feel there child deserves more in coaching than what they have to offer. If, by chance you watched the "A" Bantam team and the High School play last year there were alot of comparisons to each other which did not advance the players to a higher level of play. No systems (power play, short handed, breakout etc.) all the HS coach did was roll the lines and that included when they were on the power play. No power play unit at all. To me you put your best 5 players out there no matter if all 5 are forwards or defense. I know 1 parent that made it a habit to watch there practices and games which did make the decision for him to transfer out of CR
Blue--I agree with your take on the coaching. It's too bad it has gotten to this point. There was alot of talent on the A Bantam team last year.
If all the kids that left over the last 2 or 3 years (8-9 kids) had stayed, the HS school team would be very competitive now and for the next couple years. then the trickle down effect begins and current PeeWee parents start talking about getting out.
You are right about the trickle down affect and I don't think it's over yet.
RUMORS are already spreading if it doesn't improve this year look for 1 or 2 more to leave
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the_juiceman wrote:
blueliner5 wrote:
kopernicus wrote:this is sad.

once upon a time there was a huge CR youth program. it has been a while.

is the decline due to lack of participation locally?


I think Associations are feeling numbers are down due to the economy and expense. Coon Rapids is really trying hard to build it back up at the beginners age. The last 2 years have been pretty bad and I know the bashing I will take for saying this, but most of it is due to the coaching at the Bantam level up to the High School level. Parents feel there child deserves more in coaching than what they have to offer. If, by chance you watched the "A" Bantam team and the High School play last year there were alot of comparisons to each other which did not advance the players to a higher level of play. No systems (power play, short handed, breakout etc.) all the HS coach did was roll the lines and that included when they were on the power play. No power play unit at all. To me you put your best 5 players out there no matter if all 5 are forwards or defense. I know 1 parent that made it a habit to watch there practices and games which did make the decision for him to transfer out of CR
Blue--I agree with your take on the coaching. It's too bad it has gotten to this point. There was alot of talent on the A Bantam team last year.
If all the kids that left over the last 2 or 3 years (8-9 kids) had stayed, the HS school team would be very competitive now and for the next couple years. then the trickle down effect begins and current PeeWee parents start talking about getting out.
Juiceman....Any updates on the goalie situation? New trimester starts in a few days look for the goalie to start his High School career somewhere else. Wouldn't be surprised to see his name appear on that High Schools team roster as it appears now there are only 2 goalies listed
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blueliner5 wrote:
the_juiceman wrote:
blueliner5 wrote:

I think Associations are feeling numbers are down due to the economy and expense. Coon Rapids is really trying hard to build it back up at the beginners age. The last 2 years have been pretty bad and I know the bashing I will take for saying this, but most of it is due to the coaching at the Bantam level up to the High School level. Parents feel there child deserves more in coaching than what they have to offer. If, by chance you watched the "A" Bantam team and the High School play last year there were alot of comparisons to each other which did not advance the players to a higher level of play. No systems (power play, short handed, breakout etc.) all the HS coach did was roll the lines and that included when they were on the power play. No power play unit at all. To me you put your best 5 players out there no matter if all 5 are forwards or defense. I know 1 parent that made it a habit to watch there practices and games which did make the decision for him to transfer out of CR
Blue--I agree with your take on the coaching. It's too bad it has gotten to this point. There was alot of talent on the A Bantam team last year.
If all the kids that left over the last 2 or 3 years (8-9 kids) had stayed, the HS school team would be very competitive now and for the next couple years. then the trickle down effect begins and current PeeWee parents start talking about getting out.
Juiceman....Any updates on the goalie situation? New trimester starts in a few days look for the goalie to start his High School career somewhere else. Wouldn't be surprised to see his name appear on that High Schools team roster as it appears now there are only 2 goalies listed
the rumors are still floating around. the goalie in question is still practicing/playing with B1. I guess the question will be answered after this week-end.
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Post by loveitorleaveit »

the_juiceman wrote:
blueliner5 wrote:
the_juiceman wrote: Blue--I agree with your take on the coaching. It's too bad it has gotten to this point. There was alot of talent on the A Bantam team last year.
If all the kids that left over the last 2 or 3 years (8-9 kids) had stayed, the HS school team would be very competitive now and for the next couple years. then the trickle down effect begins and current PeeWee parents start talking about getting out.
Juiceman....Any updates on the goalie situation? New trimester starts in a few days look for the goalie to start his High School career somewhere else. Wouldn't be surprised to see his name appear on that High Schools team roster as it appears now there are only 2 goalies listed
the rumors are still floating around. the goalie in question is still practicing/playing with B1. I guess the question will be answered after this week-end.

Looks like these rumors are coming true. One of the goalies did leave for a powerhouse in high school hockey - well - they use the same rink as a powerhouse in hockey.
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loveitorleaveit wrote:
the_juiceman wrote:
blueliner5 wrote: Juiceman....Any updates on the goalie situation? New trimester starts in a few days look for the goalie to start his High School career somewhere else. Wouldn't be surprised to see his name appear on that High Schools team roster as it appears now there are only 2 goalies listed
the rumors are still floating around. the goalie in question is still practicing/playing with B1. I guess the question will be answered after this week-end.

Looks like these rumors are coming true. One of the goalies did leave for a powerhouse in high school hockey - well - they use the same rink as a powerhouse in hockey.
So where does this leave them for goalies?
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Post by loveitorleaveit »

blueliner5 wrote:
loveitorleaveit wrote:
the_juiceman wrote: the rumors are still floating around. the goalie in question is still practicing/playing with B1. I guess the question will be answered after this week-end.

Looks like these rumors are coming true. One of the goalies did leave for a powerhouse in high school hockey - well - they use the same rink as a powerhouse in hockey.
So where does this leave them for goalies?

one goalie on each team as far I know
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Post by blueliner5 »

If, in fact, these are the circumstances I hope the goalies on each team will be healthy throughout the season to be successful at their level
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blueliner5 wrote:If, in fact, these are the circumstances I hope the goalies on each team will be healthy throughout the season to be successful at their level
let's hope so--both are quality goaltenders
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Post by hocmom »

I am pretty sure the problem is the name of the town. Have you considered changing the name to Racoon River or Rippling Rapids, or some such? ;)
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Re: cr goalie

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blueliner5 wrote:
loveitorleaveit wrote:
the_juiceman wrote: Loveit--you seem to talking out both sides of your mouth--which is it? was your initial post sarcasm?
"This will be good for the program - the goalie in question has been a problem for the assoc. Same with all the other players that left - CR is better off without them. Tell the board member to keep up the good work - let someone else deal with the problems"

I didn't say I took my kid out of CR - I just got him out of the youth program which is where all this stuff starts.
What do you mean you took him out of the youth program? If, he is still playing hockey within YOU don't make that decision just to take him OUT of the program, unless he is a sophomore and is bantam eligible then I can see him leaving the youth moving onto High School. Since when is it good for a program to keep losing numbers? :roll:
Hey loveitorleaveit......I am a little confused here please help me understand your situation. Here on this thread you stated your last son was playing at the High School level, but on the most recent Youth forum thread "News out of Dist. 10" you stated having 2 children playing??
Did I miss something? Also, appears to me you are a Coon Rapids parent correct?
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blueliner5 wrote:
Hey loveitorleaveit......I am a little confused here please help me understand your situation. Here on this thread you stated your last son was playing at the High School level, but on the most recent Youth forum thread "News out of Dist. 10" you stated having 2 children playing??
Did I miss something? Also, appears to me you are a Coon Rapids parent correct?
I have 4 children from two different Mothers
between the 3 of our addresses we cover 3 different programs
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No wonder your user name is loveitorleaveit
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