Rau to Sioux Falls

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:18 pm

The EP hockey team took a huge loss today as Kyle Rau will be playing for Sioux Falls. For years The Don has has been a good coach with a bad dew. Boy have the tables turned. Now he is a bad coach with an ok dew..........go figure. Go Dogs, Beavers, Mavs, Huskies. I like the sound of Blaise.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:35 am

A devastating blow for the eagles if this is true. As much as most high school fans would have loved to see him play another year his game is ready for the next level. Good luck Kyle!

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:39 am

FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:The EP hockey team took a huge loss today as Kyle Rau will be playing for Sioux Falls. For years The Don has has been a good coach with a bad dew. Boy have the tables turned. Now he is a bad coach with an ok dew..........go figure. Go Dogs, Beavers, Mavs, Huskies. I like the sound of Blaise.

According to the Nov. 1 article, wasn't it Rau's chocie to stay or go ???

shakey · Post by **shakey** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:44 am

FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:The EP hockey team took a huge loss today as Kyle Rau will be playing for Sioux Falls. For years The Don has has been a good coach with a bad dew. Boy have the tables turned. Now he is a bad coach with an ok dew..........go figure. Go Dogs, Beavers, Mavs, Huskies. I like the sound of Blaise.

'The Don' is behind this? What about 'The Mom', 'The Dad' and 'The Kid'?

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:36 am

shakey wrote:
FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:The EP hockey team took a huge loss today as Kyle Rau will be playing for Sioux Falls. For years The Don has has been a good coach with a bad dew. Boy have the tables turned. Now he is a bad coach with an ok dew..........go figure. Go Dogs, Beavers, Mavs, Huskies. I like the sound of Blaise.
'The Don' is behind this? What about 'The Mom', 'The Dad' and 'The Kid'?

mngopherfan · Post by **mngopherfan** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:42 am

Are you sure he's going to Sioux Falls all year? After hearing all of his talk about wanting to stay I imagine he's playing before/after with SF. I guess if he's not at tryouts today the question will be answered.

shakey · Post by **shakey** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:45 am

mngopherfan wrote:Are you sure he's going to Sioux Falls all year? After hearing all of his talk about wanting to stay I imagine he's playing before/after with SF. I guess if he's not at tryouts today the question will be answered.

Wait to see if he shows up at tryouts.....hell of a way for his coach and teammates to find out don't you think?

mngopherfan · Post by **mngopherfan** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:58 am

shakey wrote:
mngopherfan wrote:Are you sure he's going to Sioux Falls all year? After hearing all of his talk about wanting to stay I imagine he's playing before/after with SF. I guess if he's not at tryouts today the question will be answered.
Wait to see if he shows up at tryouts.....hell of a way for his coach and teammates to find out don't you think?

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He didn't even play in Sioux Falls this weekend...I'd say it's almost certain he's playing with EP this year. He 2 games in SF after the HS Elite season was done...

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:21 am

I don't know - Flintstone is a big EP hockey guy - if he says Rau's going, I highly doubt it's not true, although I know we all wish it weren't. His game is ready for the next level for sure, but it would've been great to get to watch him play one more year at the State Tournament. Either way - good luck to him - we wish him all the best - and we'll still get to watch him play for the Gophers next year!

Yakunin · Post by **Yakunin** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:23 am

This article was just published a few days ago!

http://rise.espn.go.com/all-sports/arti ... r-mag.aspx

Word on the street is the "Don" told him he had to go play this year if he wanted to come next year. Good Timing???

mngopherfan · Post by **mngopherfan** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:25 am

Doglover wrote:I don't know - Flintstone is a big EP hockey guy - if he says Rau's going, I highly doubt it's not true, although I know we all wish it weren't. His game is ready for the next level for sure, but it would've been great to get to watch him play one more year at the State Tournament. Either way - good luck to him - we wish him all the best - and we'll still get to watch him play for the Gophers next year!

That may be true, it just seems weird that he played 2 games on the 5th and 6th but didn't play this weekend...

observer · Post by **observer** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:45 am

If true, this seems like an unusual choice to me.
Is this type of move entirely a players choice?
Is there pressure from someone?
College coach thinks it the right move?
USHL coach thinks it's the right move?
Can it be called selfish on any of their parts?
I know every situation is different but we're all trying to understand how these choices are made. Is there pressure appplied from someone?

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:46 am

mngopherfan wrote:
Doglover wrote:I don't know - Flintstone is a big EP hockey guy - if he says Rau's going, I highly doubt it's not true, although I know we all wish it weren't. His game is ready for the next level for sure, but it would've been great to get to watch him play one more year at the State Tournament. Either way - good luck to him - we wish him all the best - and we'll still get to watch him play for the Gophers next year!
That may be true, it just seems weird that he played 2 games on the 5th and 6th but didn't play this weekend...

Good Point - let's hope he shows up at tryouts!

mngopherfan · Post by **mngopherfan** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:14 am

Doglover wrote:
mngopherfan wrote:
Doglover wrote:I don't know - Flintstone is a big EP hockey guy - if he says Rau's going, I highly doubt it's not true, although I know we all wish it weren't. His game is ready for the next level for sure, but it would've been great to get to watch him play one more year at the State Tournament. Either way - good luck to him - we wish him all the best - and we'll still get to watch him play for the Gophers next year!
That may be true, it just seems weird that he played 2 games on the 5th and 6th but didn't play this weekend...
Good Point - let's hope he shows up at tryouts!

Well...there are a couple other teams i support in that section so not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing if he leaves...haha. But for MN Hockey i sure hope he stays/

mn man · Post by **mn man** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:20 am

observer wrote:If true, this seems like an unusual choice to me.
Is this type of move entirely a players choice?
Is there pressure from someone?
College coach thinks it the right move?
USHL coach thinks it's the right move?
Can it be called selfish on any of their parts?
I know every situation is different but we're all trying to understand how these choices are made. Is there pressure appplied from someone?

Good questions. I hope there was not undue pressure. I think Nick Leddy proved that playing your senior year in HS with your buddies does not permanently cripple your hockey career (in fact probably was the reverse, it gained him more notoriety). For this to happen this late in the game is a bummer for the Eagles.

StillAnEagle · Post by **StillAnEagle** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:31 am

I'll bet Molenaar is saying a big thanks right about now if it's true!... I'm sure he'd be gone to Ann Arbor if he knew Rau was leaving.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:45 am

College coaches will often tell recruits they will need a year of juniors. Whether to take it during high school or after high school is up to the player.

seek & destroy · Post by **seek & destroy** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:50 am

mngopherfan wrote:
Doglover wrote:I don't know - Flintstone is a big EP hockey guy - if he says Rau's going, I highly doubt it's not true, although I know we all wish it weren't. His game is ready for the next level for sure, but it would've been great to get to watch him play one more year at the State Tournament. Either way - good luck to him - we wish him all the best - and we'll still get to watch him play for the Gophers next year!
That may be true, it just seems weird that he played 2 games on the 5th and 6th but didn't play this weekend...

This interview was published two weeks ago. I would tend to think it is pretty clear that he plans on playing H.S. hockey this year. It is not uncommon for a top end player to be offered the chance to play a couple of games prior to the H.S. season starting...it happens almost every year.

I wouldn't read too much into the fact that he played 2 games at Sioux Falls. He may (or may not) go back after the H.S. season but he will be an Eagle this year...

Q: What were your thoughts about whether to stay or leave high school after your junior year?A: I talked to (the University of) Minnesota, and they said the decision was up to me. And for me, I’ve grown up with all the kids I played with last year. There’s nothing like playing in front of my high school friends. That’s something I couldn’t give up.

mngopherfan · Post by **mngopherfan** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:54 am

Confirmed...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps ... DieyckcUsI

Didn't see that coming...

seek & destroy · Post by **seek & destroy** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:58 am

mngopherfan wrote:Confirmed...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps ... DieyckcUsI

Didn't see that coming...

WOW!

I obviously didn't see it coming either. He is a great player but it is a shame that he will miss out on a great H.S. experience this year. I hope that there wasn't too much pressure put on him by college to make this choice.

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:03 am

observer wrote:If true, this seems like an unusual choice to me.
Is this type of move entirely a players choice?
Is there pressure from someone?
College coach thinks it the right move?
USHL coach thinks it's the right move?
Can it be called selfish on any of their parts?
I know every situation is different but we're all trying to understand how these choices are made. Is there pressure appplied from someone?

It seems to make a lot of sense to me. Just look at what is happening at the college level with only a few kids coming in right after high school, but most coming in after a year or more in the USHL. How many of those guys coming in right a way are actually producing for their program?

Ambroz wasn't going to get a lot of playing time, so playing another year in the USHL was in his & the programs best interest. Does anyone think that maybe Bugstad should have played at least a year the USHL? How about Ness? How about Alt & Holl (though there moves was more of a necessity)

I'll bet Rau had a choice to stay and play another year of high school hockey, but he was probably recently told that he would have to at least play a one year in the USHL before coming to the Gophers. I'm sure the timing of this is all linked with the early signing period last week, as he probably was not offered a scholarship agreement to play starting the fall of 2011. Was this different than what was discussed this spring when he committed? Probably, but I'll also bet they only had a verbal agreement, as things can/do change.

Then there is the NHL draft aspect, which is another view point that may or may not be a driving factor

StillAnEagle · Post by **StillAnEagle** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:03 am

Totally disgracefull... See ya Don

... Welcome Dean

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:07 am

I read that Rise article too, so I am likewise shocked. Though, I remember when I was a sophmore in HS, Aaron Miskovich left GRHS to play in Green Bay and it was on KDLH in Duluth, then one week later, they announced he had a change of heart and was coming back to GRHS. Just saying it ain't over yet.

StillAnEagle · Post by **StillAnEagle** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:10 am

High Flyer wrote:
observer wrote:If true, this seems like an unusual choice to me.
Is this type of move entirely a players choice?
Is there pressure from someone?
College coach thinks it the right move?
USHL coach thinks it's the right move?
Can it be called selfish on any of their parts?
I know every situation is different but we're all trying to understand how these choices are made. Is there pressure appplied from someone?
It seems to make a lot of sense to me. Just look at what is happening at the college level with only a few kids coming in right after high school, but most coming in after a year or more in the USHL. How many of those guys coming in right a way are actually producing for their program?

Ambroz wasn't going to get a lot of playing time, so playing another year in the USHL was in his & the programs best interest. Does anyone think that maybe Bugstad should have played at least a year the USHL? How about Ness? How about Alt & Holl (though there moves was more of a necessity)

I'll bet Rau had a choice to stay and play another year of high school hockey, but he was probably recently told that he would have to at least play a one year in the USHL before coming to the Gophers. I'm sure the timing of this is all linked with the early signing period last week, as he probably was not offered a scholarship agreement to play starting the fall of 2011. Was this different than what was discussed this spring when he committed? Probably, but I'll also bet they only had a verbal agreement, as things can/do change.

Then there is the NHL draft aspect, which is another view point that may or may not be a driving factor

Not sure if I totally agree with this for the highest end players... and what does it really mean to "produce"? Because for a younger kid to go out there and hold his own (like a sophomore that made 3rd line varsity) in my opinion, is a productive player. Furthermore, playing that younger kid that holds his own is an investment for the next couple seasons - even if he doesn't "produce" a ton of points.

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:11 am

rapidsrapids wrote:I read that Rise article too, so I am likewise shocked. Though, I remember when I was a sophmore in HS, Aaron Miskovich left GRHS to play in Green Bay and it was on KDLH in Duluth, then one week later, they announced he had a change of heart and was coming back to GRHS. Just saying it ain't over yet.

It's a two way street, assuming he did not sign a NLI.

If he did, he lost his negotiating leverage...

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