tryout fees

[funmom]

Can any one tell me if their associations charge a tryout fee for their girls teams? My association charges boys but says all girls have to tryout so they don't have to pay. I think thats being discriminating ! The boys all have to tryout to make a A or B team so whats the difference?

[Snowmass]

Can any one tell me if their associations charge a tryout fee for their girls teams? My association charges boys but says all girls have to tryout so they don't have to pay. I think thats being discriminating ! The boys all have to tryout to make a A or B team so whats the difference?

I think most girls programs just don't have the numbers (not talking about Edina or Wayzata or larger associations etc...) so by not charging fees it makes it more appealing for any girls interested or on the fence. That's my opinion atleast. Also- for boys our local association charges a season fee (obviously) and a try out fee for 'A' pool try outs only. Not sure what your try out fee is, but unless it's really high, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

[mnhcp]

Can any one tell me if their associations charge a tryout fee for their girls teams? My association charges boys but says all girls have to tryout so they don't have to pay. I think thats being discriminating ! The boys all have to tryout to make a A or B team so whats the difference?

My presumption is you're not telling the whole story. Tell us all the facts, details, numbers, etc before we can comment. Something is missing.........

[hockeydad]

Years ago our association added a small tryout fee to pay for the cost of the ice during tryouts. Previously the fee was built into the registration fee. By pulling the fee out, if a player chose not to play with the association after tryouts (there was always one or two who didn't like their placement) they would get their entire registration fee returned (minus USA/MN Hockey dues). Before, we would have to prorate the number of hours and it took a little more paperwork and parents would bitch about not getting the entire registration back. Also, players had the choice of not going through tryouts and were automatically assigned to the lowest level team. We are a smaller association, so we usually only had two or three teams per age group.

[funmom]

I do come from a smaller association,but the last two years we have had enough girls to make two or three teams for each level . My association charges only the boys $75.00 to try out.

[JSR]

We have tryouts but there are no tryout fees. There is a registration/season fee for association hockey but no tryout fee. Tryouts are for placement purposes within an association I do not liek the idea of a tryout fee at the association level at all it should just be part of your registration fee IMO. Tryout fees should be left for tryout teams like AAA teams etc...., again JMHO

[InigoMontoya]

Can any one tell me if their associations charge a tryout fee for their girls teams? My association charges boys but says all girls have to tryout so they don't have to pay. I think thats being discriminating ! The boys all have to tryout to make a A or B team so whats the difference?

Do the girls tryout for A or B, or do they have a skills assessment to place them on two evenly divided B teams?

[royals dad]

This is the kind of stuff that some parents will stand in the arena lobby and talk about, then get each other all whipped up about the conspiracy against their kids. If you have questions you need to ask the right people.

I have a boy and girls players in a small association and the tryouts for girls are billed more like a split practice where the boys have a tryout fee. I think that has evolved out of boys sometimes moving out of the association after the try out/team placement as well as the need to have outside evaluators that garner a fee.

Instead of going to an internet forum or the arena gossip circle call a board member or the association president and say you have a question about how the fees work. The associations are non profit volunteer run organizations, its important for parents to get involved and for a good amount of transparency. However, gossip and innuendo from parents make for bad seasons for everyone. I have been a involved volunteer (coach and board member) so posts like these always touch a nerve.

Its obvious from the wording in your post that you feel the girls program is being funded by you as a boys parent, I don't know your association so I cant tell you what they are doing but typically it would not be done that way. The only way you can know is to ask the right people.

[InigoMontoya]

Whoa there, Hoss. If we stop going to the internet forum with our gossip and innuendo, there will be even less going on than there is today - which has been limited to this boring thread that started out as a claim of discrimination against upper-middle class, white males - it'll sure be refreshing when that group finally gets a fair shake.

[seek & destroy]

Can any one tell me if their associations charge a tryout fee for their girls teams? My association charges boys but says all girls have to tryout so they don't have to pay. I think thats being discriminating ! The boys all have to tryout to make a A or B team so whats the difference?

Our association charges the boys trying out for the A/B teams a relatively small fee and the girls do not pay any fee. The reason is that the girls are mandated to have an 'evaluation' by the association. This is similar to our C level evaluation for the boys which also has no fee. The intention of the evaluation for the C level boys is to make the teams fairly even so they don't charge for it.

For the girls, it came about because there were several years where girls (who were friends) and their parents all agreed to skip the 'tryout' so they could be on the B team together (we never had that problem with the boys). In many cases the girls were some of our better players who were maybe moving up a level early to fill teams etc.. The end result was that we did not have the teams organized with the best players on the A level team so it was made mandatory for all girls to be 'evaluated' and placed on a team. Because it was mandatory, it was decided that it wouldn't be fair to charge them for the evaluation (similar to what they do at the C level for boys).

I agree witih "royals dad" that you don't need to look for things to complain about. Our board made their decision to help place kids as best possible on the correct teams for their development not to punish one group over another. In most of these situations you'll find that that is the case.

[funmom]

I'am not complaining about anything. I just want to find out some facts from other people regarding tryouts. I have been speaking with our board members and things haven't been ironed out yet. My question is that if you are charging boys to play on a A or B team ,but not charging the girls to tryout for a A or B team thats discriminating against the boys. I just think everybody should be treated fairly and if we keep changing rules just because their girls women will never get to be considered a equal.I understand if their is not enough girls to make different levels and your just trying to make to teams fairly then don't charge them,but if you seperate them into A and B teams they should pay just like the boys.

[HockeyDad41]

I also agree with royals dad: you don't need to look for things to complain about at the association. The things to complain about are so obvious that looking for them would be ludicrous.

I'm sure that there are associations out there that do it right. If yours is one that does it right, please contact mine immediately and explain to them that development does not mean more games than practices. Also explain to our board members that our 4-10 year olds are the foundation of our program and they should maybe spend a few minutes planning how to best develop them instead of ignoring them until they are squirts.

We have had a few individual success stories from our association, but in the last couple of decades our banner hanging ladder has sat dormant.

Charging or not charging for tryouts is the least of our problems.

[InigoMontoya]

I also agree with royals dad: you don't need to look for things to complain about at the association. The things to complain about are so obvious that looking for them would be ludicrous.

I'm sure that there are associations out there that do it right. If yours is one that does it right, please contact mine immediately and explain to them that development does not mean more games than practices. Also explain to our board members that our 4-10 year olds are the foundation of our program and they should maybe spend a few minutes planning how to best develop them instead of ignoring them until they are squirts.

We have had a few individual success stories from our association, but in the last couple of decades our banner hanging ladder has sat dormant.

Charging or not charging for tryouts is the least of our problems.

Holy crap, we are in the same association.

[O CANADA!]

Maybe your association should call them evaluations instead of tryouts. If you have a girl, it's free from what your saying; no reason to complain. I would go to your next board meeting and stand up and say something. Tell your assocation they are loosing out on a chance to soak more parents for more money. I agree they should be charged a fee. My old association charges the same fees across the board for all skaters who want to be on a traveling team. If your association wants to show favortism towards the girls, then ask them to give the boys teams more ice since they pay for more. Let the cat fights begins!

[StayAtHomeD]

Can any one tell me if their associations charge a tryout fee for their girls teams? My association charges boys but says all girls have to tryout so they don't have to pay. I think thats being discriminating ! The boys all have to tryout to make a A or B team so whats the difference?

You will refrain from questioning politically correct rules that relate to TITLE IX.

JK