Shattuck-St. Mary's website shows them having 6 boys teams.
Bantam A
Bantam Tier I
Midget AA
Midget AAA
Prep
U-16
Anyone with more knowledge than me want to help me out and explain what exactly each of these teams entail?
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A lot of tution!!!!Goldy Gopher wrote:Shattuck-St. Mary's website shows them having 6 boys teams.
Bantam A
Bantam Tier I
Midget AA
Midget AAA
Prep
U-16
Anyone with more knowledge than me want to help me out and explain what exactly each of these teams entail?
Re: SSM
i can tell you went to a public school...mulefarm wrote:A lot of tution!!!!Goldy Gopher wrote:Shattuck-St. Mary's website shows them having 6 boys teams.
Bantam A
Bantam Tier I
Midget AA
Midget AAA
Prep
U-16
Anyone with more knowledge than me want to help me out and explain what exactly each of these teams entail?
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Re: SSM
[quote="Goldy Gopher"]Shattuck-St. Mary's website shows them having 6 boys teams.
Bantam A
Bantam Tier I
Midget AA
Midget AAA
Prep
U-16
Anyone with more knowledge than me want to help me out and explain what exactly each of these teams entail?[/quote]
These 6 teams can be broken down into 3 main age divisions.
The U-18 age level, the U-16 age level, and then the Bantam age level.
Each team plays at a certain level within their age group, essentially skill level divisions.
For example, the top U-18 age level team is the Prep team, followed by the Midget AAA team.
I'll break it down like this,
U-18 Age Level:
Prep - 1
Midget AAA - 2
U-16 Age Level:
U16 Team - 1
Midget AA - 2
Bantam Age Level:
Tier 1 - 1
Bantam A - 2
If there are any more questions or if I made a mistake, please tell me!
Bantam A
Bantam Tier I
Midget AA
Midget AAA
Prep
U-16
Anyone with more knowledge than me want to help me out and explain what exactly each of these teams entail?[/quote]
These 6 teams can be broken down into 3 main age divisions.
The U-18 age level, the U-16 age level, and then the Bantam age level.
Each team plays at a certain level within their age group, essentially skill level divisions.
For example, the top U-18 age level team is the Prep team, followed by the Midget AAA team.
I'll break it down like this,
U-18 Age Level:
Prep - 1
Midget AAA - 2
U-16 Age Level:
U16 Team - 1
Midget AA - 2
Bantam Age Level:
Tier 1 - 1
Bantam A - 2
If there are any more questions or if I made a mistake, please tell me!
Taylor Cammarata of Plymouth MN
There has been a lot of talk about Nathan Mckinnon who is currently on the SSM Bantam Tier 1 team being the next Sidney Crosby. According to the SSM website Taylor Cammarata (who is only 4 months older than Mckinnon) of Plymouth MN had 98 goals and 72 assists for 170 points this year in 58 games, while McKinnon had 54 goals and 47 assists for 101 points also in 58 games played. Cammarata very well could be a future superstar, both of these kids are under 5'10 right now, but both are still only 14 years old. What type of player is Cammarata? On paper it appears Cammarata is the better player. Anyone who has seen the two play, how would you compare the two?
From ESPN:
Nate the kid
For Nathan MacKinnon, the next Sidney Crosby talk is only the beginning
Robert Delahanty for ESPN The Magazine
Nathan MacKinnon, perhaps the future of pro hockey.
This article appears in the March 8 issue of ESPN The Magazine. If you're interested in reading more about NHL prodigies, then check out Insider's NHL Draft Blog.
Nathan MacKinnon is like a lot of hockey-playing, 14-year-old Canadian kids, in that he idolizes Sidney Crosby. He has posters of Crosby on his bedroom walls. He has read and reread a biography of Crosby. He watches the Penguins phenom on TV every chance he gets, and has managed to see him in person a couple of times. His mom even got Crosby to autograph the cover of a magazine, which he keeps under glass so it will stay in mint condition.
Nathan MacKinnon is a little less like a lot of hockey-playing, 14-year-old Canadian kids, in that his life has eerily tracked Sidney Crosby's. He was raised minutes away from the home where Crosby grew up, in the Halifax suburb of Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia. Eight years apart, they played at the same rinks, competed in the same tournaments, played ball hockey on the same sleet-pelted tennis courts, and skated on the same frozen ponds. And much as Crosby used to fire pucks into his basement dryer, Nathan shot at a beat-up net with plastic milk jugs hanging off the crossbar for top-shelf targets.
Nathan MacKinnon is not at all like other hockey-playing, 14-year-old Canadian kids, in that he just might be the second coming of Sidney Crosby. In fact, MacKinnon is pretty much a clone of the most famous hockey player in the world: so skilled, so dominant, that many insiders already call him the next Sid the Kid. A center -- like Crosby -- MacKinnon scored goals by the hundreds in the top local leagues that Crosby once ruled. Like Crosby, MacKinnon played with and against players two and three years older, some more than a foot taller. And like Crosby, Nathan had to leave home young to find challenges. Needless to say, both landed at Shattuck-St. Mary's, the hockey powerhouse in Faribault, Minn.
Already poised beyond his years -- like, well, you get the idea -- Nathan is smart enough to know that he'd rather be MacKinnon 1.0 than Crosby 2.0. It's hard enough being 14 without facing constant comparisons to the youngest-ever captain of a Stanley Cup winner. "My first two months at Shattuck, it always came up," he says. "Kids would say, 'Aren't you from where Crosby is from?' "
Yes, indeed. Shattuck-St. Mary's coaches spotted MacKinnon when he was playing for a Nova Scotia select team at a tournament two years ago; they talked to his father, Graham, and mother, Kathy, about having their son enroll the following fall. The MacKinnons visited the campus and knew it was the right spot, but the wrong time. "We thought having Nathan go off at 13 was too soon," Graham says.
Waiting a year gave MacKinnon time to mature physically (he's now 5'9'', 162) and emotionally. "It was a tough adjustment at first," says John LaFontaine, the coach of Shattuck's top bantam team. "Nathan's intense. He was dwelling on mistakes, being really hard on himself. But after he settled in, he turned the corner." Nathan gets high marks for skating and puck skills, but coaches say his hockey sense is his strongest asset. He intuitively knows where linemates will be without looking, and he finds them with passes that baffle defenders. Despite a rocky start, MacKinnon has been among his team's leaders in scoring all season, racking up 46 goals in 50 games. And he leads all Shattuck students in ice time. "Every chance I get I'll go over to the rink to work out," MacKinnon says. "At home we'd get to practice only twice a week. At Shattuck we're practicing or playing every day. The arena is always open -- you can get an extra skate in mornings and during lunch." In fact, one of the biggest challenges for Shattuck coaches has been forcing MacKinnon off the ice. "If we let him, he'd never leave the rink," LaFontaine says.
MacKinnon's not sure about long-term goals -- he hasn't decided whether he'll play NCAA hockey or follow Crosby to the Quebec major junior league. But he has a lock on plans for next season: "I want to make the prep team at 15. Sidney did it, but even guys like Zach Parise didn't make the cut."
LaFontaine says MacKinnon is "in the mix" for a spot on Shattuck's top team next year. If he makes it, the Crosby comparisons will only intensify, and this is one comparison MacKinnon welcomes. "What Sidney did when he went from Cole Harbour to Shattuck made it seem possible for me," he says.
You can almost hear the question a few years from now: "Cole Harbour? Isn't that where Sidney Crosby and Nathan MacKinnon are from?"
From ESPN:
Nate the kid
For Nathan MacKinnon, the next Sidney Crosby talk is only the beginning
Robert Delahanty for ESPN The Magazine
Nathan MacKinnon, perhaps the future of pro hockey.
This article appears in the March 8 issue of ESPN The Magazine. If you're interested in reading more about NHL prodigies, then check out Insider's NHL Draft Blog.
Nathan MacKinnon is like a lot of hockey-playing, 14-year-old Canadian kids, in that he idolizes Sidney Crosby. He has posters of Crosby on his bedroom walls. He has read and reread a biography of Crosby. He watches the Penguins phenom on TV every chance he gets, and has managed to see him in person a couple of times. His mom even got Crosby to autograph the cover of a magazine, which he keeps under glass so it will stay in mint condition.
Nathan MacKinnon is a little less like a lot of hockey-playing, 14-year-old Canadian kids, in that his life has eerily tracked Sidney Crosby's. He was raised minutes away from the home where Crosby grew up, in the Halifax suburb of Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia. Eight years apart, they played at the same rinks, competed in the same tournaments, played ball hockey on the same sleet-pelted tennis courts, and skated on the same frozen ponds. And much as Crosby used to fire pucks into his basement dryer, Nathan shot at a beat-up net with plastic milk jugs hanging off the crossbar for top-shelf targets.
Nathan MacKinnon is not at all like other hockey-playing, 14-year-old Canadian kids, in that he just might be the second coming of Sidney Crosby. In fact, MacKinnon is pretty much a clone of the most famous hockey player in the world: so skilled, so dominant, that many insiders already call him the next Sid the Kid. A center -- like Crosby -- MacKinnon scored goals by the hundreds in the top local leagues that Crosby once ruled. Like Crosby, MacKinnon played with and against players two and three years older, some more than a foot taller. And like Crosby, Nathan had to leave home young to find challenges. Needless to say, both landed at Shattuck-St. Mary's, the hockey powerhouse in Faribault, Minn.
Already poised beyond his years -- like, well, you get the idea -- Nathan is smart enough to know that he'd rather be MacKinnon 1.0 than Crosby 2.0. It's hard enough being 14 without facing constant comparisons to the youngest-ever captain of a Stanley Cup winner. "My first two months at Shattuck, it always came up," he says. "Kids would say, 'Aren't you from where Crosby is from?' "
Yes, indeed. Shattuck-St. Mary's coaches spotted MacKinnon when he was playing for a Nova Scotia select team at a tournament two years ago; they talked to his father, Graham, and mother, Kathy, about having their son enroll the following fall. The MacKinnons visited the campus and knew it was the right spot, but the wrong time. "We thought having Nathan go off at 13 was too soon," Graham says.
Waiting a year gave MacKinnon time to mature physically (he's now 5'9'', 162) and emotionally. "It was a tough adjustment at first," says John LaFontaine, the coach of Shattuck's top bantam team. "Nathan's intense. He was dwelling on mistakes, being really hard on himself. But after he settled in, he turned the corner." Nathan gets high marks for skating and puck skills, but coaches say his hockey sense is his strongest asset. He intuitively knows where linemates will be without looking, and he finds them with passes that baffle defenders. Despite a rocky start, MacKinnon has been among his team's leaders in scoring all season, racking up 46 goals in 50 games. And he leads all Shattuck students in ice time. "Every chance I get I'll go over to the rink to work out," MacKinnon says. "At home we'd get to practice only twice a week. At Shattuck we're practicing or playing every day. The arena is always open -- you can get an extra skate in mornings and during lunch." In fact, one of the biggest challenges for Shattuck coaches has been forcing MacKinnon off the ice. "If we let him, he'd never leave the rink," LaFontaine says.
MacKinnon's not sure about long-term goals -- he hasn't decided whether he'll play NCAA hockey or follow Crosby to the Quebec major junior league. But he has a lock on plans for next season: "I want to make the prep team at 15. Sidney did it, but even guys like Zach Parise didn't make the cut."
LaFontaine says MacKinnon is "in the mix" for a spot on Shattuck's top team next year. If he makes it, the Crosby comparisons will only intensify, and this is one comparison MacKinnon welcomes. "What Sidney did when he went from Cole Harbour to Shattuck made it seem possible for me," he says.
You can almost hear the question a few years from now: "Cole Harbour? Isn't that where Sidney Crosby and Nathan MacKinnon are from?"
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I don't know what you are asking. The school tries to get about 20 kids to come in 8th grade. The normal progression is that they start as the Bantam A team playing mostly against Minnesota teams. Then in 9th grade they play a national schedule as the Tier I team. There is a fork in the road at 10th grade and the kids will wind up on either the U16 or AA Midget team. The top teams are usually all upperclassmen. Prep is the renowned team and the ones that don't make it play AAA Midget. (You can be real good and never make their Prep. Ben Grotting is going to the Frozen Four with Wisconsin and one of the Bruneteau kids never made it past Midget at SSM if I recall.)Goldy Gopher wrote:Shattuck-St. Mary's website shows them having 6 boys teams.
Bantam A
Bantam Tier I
Midget AA
Midget AAA
Prep
U-16
Anyone with more knowledge than me want to help me out and explain what exactly each of these teams entail?
The path is a little different if you are born Sept-Dec in that you can't play Bantam as a 9th grader (those kids are usually up on U16 or AA). Also, for the truly elite it is possible to make the Prep team as a sophomore. Kids that do that are usually eventual NHL draft picks.
Like a lot of high schools, if you don't make the Prep as an 11th grader it can be real hard to crack it in 12th.
I wondered why people would send their kids away from home if they weren't ultimately going to be Prep players. Some families have told me they are actually very up front about how hard it is to make it. (If you aren't one of the top half of that initial group of 8th graders you won't play Prep.) Complicating this is that they bring some of the best players in at the older grades to be Prep players. These are often the drafted ones.
Not sure if that is what you were looking for.
Be kind. Rewind.
Shattuck Bantam Tier 1 Stat Leaders
F Taylor Cammarata Plymouth 58 92 78 170
F Nathan MacKinnon Cole Harbor, NS 58 54 47 101
D Willie Raskob Eagan 58 36 44 80
F Blake Clarke Wildwood, MO 58 33 47 80
F Alex Rodriguez Fairbault 58 29 41 70
F Brett Boeing Barrington, IL 58 18 44 62
F Cody Kuster Ludington, MI 58 35 27 62
Now that's impressive. Cammarata with 69 more points than #2 MacKinnon.
F Taylor Cammarata Plymouth 58 92 78 170
F Nathan MacKinnon Cole Harbor, NS 58 54 47 101
D Willie Raskob Eagan 58 36 44 80
F Blake Clarke Wildwood, MO 58 33 47 80
F Alex Rodriguez Fairbault 58 29 41 70
F Brett Boeing Barrington, IL 58 18 44 62
F Cody Kuster Ludington, MI 58 35 27 62
Now that's impressive. Cammarata with 69 more points than #2 MacKinnon.
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Somebody "in the know" informed me that Cammarata will most likely play college hockey rather than Major Juniors. Unfortunately, he'll probably choose to play for a team averaging worse than a 6th place finish in the WCHA over the past three seasons... *sigh*.observer wrote:Shattuck Bantam Tier 1 Stat Leaders
F Taylor Cammarata Plymouth 58 92 78 170
F Nathan MacKinnon Cole Harbor, NS 58 54 47 101
D Willie Raskob Eagan 58 36 44 80
F Blake Clarke Wildwood, MO 58 33 47 80
F Alex Rodriguez Fairbault 58 29 41 70
F Brett Boeing Barrington, IL 58 18 44 62
F Cody Kuster Ludington, MI 58 35 27 62
Now that's impressive. Cammarata with 69 more points than #2 MacKinnon.
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The Exiled One
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Maple GroveMNHockeyFan wrote:Assume Cammarata from Plymouth would have gone to Wayzata or perhaps Armstrong? If Wayzata that probably would have made a huge difference in terms of getting the Trojans to State this past season. Anyway, great to see that a local kid is doing so well at SSM.
Imagine him and Jordan Gross playing for the Crimson two years from now... they could've actually won something meaningful!!
Cammarata is a Maple Grove Youth Hockey product although I don't know if he's been there since being a Squirt. He played with the 95 Fire for a few seasons.
Those are Gretzky like numbers. 69 more points than the next highest player. Over twice the points as the number 3 scorer. Obviously, a very special player. Not big, not strong, looks like Harry Potter, just sick.
Here's a new and improved Shattuck link,
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/
Those are Gretzky like numbers. 69 more points than the next highest player. Over twice the points as the number 3 scorer. Obviously, a very special player. Not big, not strong, looks like Harry Potter, just sick.
Here's a new and improved Shattuck link,
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/
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[quote="observer"]Shattuck Bantam Tier 1 Stat Leaders
F Taylor Cammarata Plymouth 58 92 78 170
F Nathan MacKinnon Cole Harbor, NS 58 54 47 101
D Willie Raskob Eagan 58 36 44 80
F Blake Clarke Wildwood, MO 58 33 47 80
F Alex Rodriguez Fairbault 58 29 41 70
F Brett Boeing Barrington, IL 58 18 44 62
F Cody Kuster Ludington, MI 58 35 27 62
Now that's impressive. Cammarata with 69 more points than #2 MacKinnon.[/quote]
Wille Raskob is from Hastings.
F Taylor Cammarata Plymouth 58 92 78 170
F Nathan MacKinnon Cole Harbor, NS 58 54 47 101
D Willie Raskob Eagan 58 36 44 80
F Blake Clarke Wildwood, MO 58 33 47 80
F Alex Rodriguez Fairbault 58 29 41 70
F Brett Boeing Barrington, IL 58 18 44 62
F Cody Kuster Ludington, MI 58 35 27 62
Now that's impressive. Cammarata with 69 more points than #2 MacKinnon.[/quote]
Wille Raskob is from Hastings.
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Nobodyonya
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What's more impressive is a "D" with 80 points - Raskob.Glory_Days99 wrote:observer wrote:Shattuck Bantam Tier 1 Stat Leaders
F Taylor Cammarata Plymouth 58 92 78 170
F Nathan MacKinnon Cole Harbor, NS 58 54 47 101
D Willie Raskob Eagan 58 36 44 80
F Blake Clarke Wildwood, MO 58 33 47 80
F Alex Rodriguez Fairbault 58 29 41 70
F Brett Boeing Barrington, IL 58 18 44 62
F Cody Kuster Ludington, MI 58 35 27 62
Now that's impressive. Cammarata with 69 more points than #2 MacKinnon.
Wille Raskob is from Hastings.
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Nobodyonya
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Will size become a factor with Taylor? Undoubtedly, he is a very good player , but if you take a look at the genetics size does not run in the family.observer wrote:Cammarata is a Maple Grove Youth Hockey product although I don't know if he's been there since being a Squirt. He played with the 95 Fire for a few seasons.
Those are Gretzky like numbers. 69 more points than the next highest player. Over twice the points as the number 3 scorer. Obviously, a very special player. Not big, not strong, looks like Harry Potter, just sick.
Here's a new and improved Shattuck link,
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/
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hockeyfan893
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[quote="Nobodyonya"][quote="observer"]Cammarata is a Maple Grove Youth Hockey product although I don't know if he's been there since being a Squirt. He played with the 95 Fire for a few seasons.
Those are Gretzky like numbers. 69 more points than the next highest player. Over twice the points as the number 3 scorer. Obviously, a very special player. Not big, not strong, looks like Harry Potter, just sick.
Here's a new and improved Shattuck link,
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/[/quote]
Will size become a factor with Taylor? Undoubtedly, he is a very good player , but if you take a look at the genetics size does not run in the family.[/quote]
I think that his pure talent and scoring ability will be able to significantly lower the impact that his size will have. Much like Kane, who isn't that big of a guy, but watching him play he can hardly be touched sometimes even by pros. I'm not saying Cammarata will or will not be the next "Kane", just saying that if he's smart in how he plays, he can reduce the size factor.
Those are Gretzky like numbers. 69 more points than the next highest player. Over twice the points as the number 3 scorer. Obviously, a very special player. Not big, not strong, looks like Harry Potter, just sick.
Here's a new and improved Shattuck link,
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/[/quote]
Will size become a factor with Taylor? Undoubtedly, he is a very good player , but if you take a look at the genetics size does not run in the family.[/quote]
I think that his pure talent and scoring ability will be able to significantly lower the impact that his size will have. Much like Kane, who isn't that big of a guy, but watching him play he can hardly be touched sometimes even by pros. I'm not saying Cammarata will or will not be the next "Kane", just saying that if he's smart in how he plays, he can reduce the size factor.
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[quote="pizzapizza"]Upset at nationals? They lost at all levels: U14, U16, U18. All the teams had the same result. More like "patsy" in the tournament. In my opinion, SSM is riding on the coat-tails of former teams and players. Plain and simple.[/quote]
I wouldn't call, at least in the case of the Tier 1 team, losing in the semi finals an upset. They were beat by a team ranked higher than them consistently the entire season. I don't think you could call losing in semi finals at the national tournament "patsy" either.
I wouldn't call, at least in the case of the Tier 1 team, losing in the semi finals an upset. They were beat by a team ranked higher than them consistently the entire season. I don't think you could call losing in semi finals at the national tournament "patsy" either.
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It's patsy because it's midget tier 1 and not MN HS hockey. Boom!hockeyfan893 wrote:I wouldn't call, at least in the case of the Tier 1 team, losing in the semi finals an upset. They were beat by a team ranked higher than them consistently the entire season. I don't think you could call losing in semi finals at the national tournament "patsy" either.pizzapizza wrote:Upset at nationals? They lost at all levels: U14, U16, U18. All the teams had the same result. More like "patsy" in the tournament. In my opinion, SSM is riding on the coat-tails of former teams and players. Plain and simple.
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[quote="StillAnEagle"][quote="hockeyfan893"][quote="pizzapizza"]Upset at nationals? They lost at all levels: U14, U16, U18. All the teams had the same result. More like "patsy" in the tournament. In my opinion, SSM is riding on the coat-tails of former teams and players. Plain and simple.[/quote]
I wouldn't call, at least in the case of the Tier 1 team, losing in the semi finals an upset. They were beat by a team ranked higher than them consistently the entire season. I don't think you could call losing in semi finals at the national tournament "patsy" either.[/quote]It's patsy because it's midget tier 1 and not MN HS hockey. Boom![/quote]
And those same shattuck teams you say were "upset" and "patsy" in the national tournament beat some of the best minnesota highschool (and in the case of the Tier 1's, Bantams) had to offer, and have done so consistently for years. I agree the program seems down currently, but as with any program there are cycles of peaks and lows, but even in a slump shattuck takes it to minnesota highschool teams.
I wouldn't call, at least in the case of the Tier 1 team, losing in the semi finals an upset. They were beat by a team ranked higher than them consistently the entire season. I don't think you could call losing in semi finals at the national tournament "patsy" either.[/quote]It's patsy because it's midget tier 1 and not MN HS hockey. Boom![/quote]
And those same shattuck teams you say were "upset" and "patsy" in the national tournament beat some of the best minnesota highschool (and in the case of the Tier 1's, Bantams) had to offer, and have done so consistently for years. I agree the program seems down currently, but as with any program there are cycles of peaks and lows, but even in a slump shattuck takes it to minnesota highschool teams.
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They are not down. All three of those teams, 14s, 16s and prep were outstanding this year and all three made the quarterfinals of the National Tournament. Both girls teams, 16s and 19s, made it to the championship games and the 16U girls won the National Title.
http://www.usahockey.com/Youth_National ... NAV=AF&ID=
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/
http://www.usahockey.com/Youth_National ... NAV=AF&ID=
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/
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[quote="Night Train"]They are not down. All three of those teams, 14s, 16s and prep were outstanding this year and all three made the quarterfinals of the National Tournament. Both girls teams, 16s and 19s, both made it to the championship games and the 16U girls won the National Title.
http://www.usahockey.com/Youth_National ... NAV=AF&ID=
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/[/quote]
Thanks for the links and support. I agree.
http://www.usahockey.com/Youth_National ... NAV=AF&ID=
http://www.ssmsports.org/hockey/[/quote]
Thanks for the links and support. I agree.
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"SSM takes it to MN high school teams"... They only beat Holy Angels 5-4 (HA was leading going into the 3rd). That's not really "taking it to". Any of the top 5 MN AA teams would beat SSM. No question. Tonka, when they were hitting their stride early in the year, would have thumped stattuck.hockeyfan893 wrote:And those same shattuck teams you say were "upset" and "patsy" in the national tournament beat some of the best minnesota highschool (and in the case of the Tier 1's, Bantams) had to offer, and have done so consistently for years. I agree the program seems down currently, but as with any program there are cycles of peaks and lows, but even in a slump shattuck takes it to minnesota highschool teams.StillAnEagle wrote:It's patsy because it's midget tier 1 and not MN HS hockey. Boom!hockeyfan893 wrote: I wouldn't call, at least in the case of the Tier 1 team, losing in the semi finals an upset. They were beat by a team ranked higher than them consistently the entire season. I don't think you could call losing in semi finals at the national tournament "patsy" either.
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