Peewee B1- Edina Green #1 all year

slapshot44 · Post by **slapshot44** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:04 am

I noticed that Edina Green has been ranked number one at the peewee b1 level all year, are they that great or is this just a fluke? What are their chances of winning state this year?

Barman · Post by **Barman** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:44 am

Go figure.........a team with predominantly A level players can beat all the teams at the B1 level........DUH

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:48 am

Edina deep in talent across most all ages

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:07 am

Our team has opposed them. They are solid throughout. They should cruise to the State title.

runninman · Post by **runninman** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:25 pm

They're that good. They outscored their D6 competition by a margin of 90-5 including 13 shutouts. How would like to be a goalie on that team? Boring.

MNWILD2009 · Post by **MNWILD2009** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:28 pm

runninman wrote:They're that good. They outscored their D6 competition by a margin of 90-5 including 13 shutouts. How would like to be a goalie on that team? Boring.

Should have had 2 "A" Teams. Congrats on your impressive stats.

buttend · Post by **buttend** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:41 pm

MNWILD2009 wrote:
runninman wrote:They're that good. They outscored their D6 competition by a margin of 90-5 including 13 shutouts. How would like to be a goalie on that team? Boring.
Should have had 2 "A" Teams. Congrats on your impressive stats.

Easily could have fielded 2 PeeWee A Teams. Both B1 teams rated in the top 5?

Edina PWB1 Green Rated #1
Current Season Record- 38-3-1 Losing (2) scrimmages to 97 Fire, and (1) game to Edina PWB1 White

Edina PWB1 White Rated #4
Season Record 31-9-3 Lost 3 of 4 games to Edina Green

packerpuck19 · Post by **packerpuck19** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:56 pm

What kind of Pee Wee B team has played 43 games before playoffs????? That is rediculous. That is about where an A bantam teams game totals should be by playoff time, not a B pee wee team. That just boggles my mind. Dont they practice.

hockeyboys · Post by **hockeyboys** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:19 pm

Dont they practice.

They don't need to practice - didn't you see thier record?

packerpuck19 · Post by **packerpuck19** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:37 pm

Wow, there's an intelegent answer.

Because B pee wee is the Climax of these kid's hockey careers. Lets look at the big picture here. There are 15 Kids in that community that are better than all 30 of the B pee wees, just just at ages 12 and 13 alone. Not to mention all the competition at the Bantam level that they will be competing with for a varsity spot in 3 or 4 years, so now we are looking at 40 to 50 kids better than those 30 B pee wees. And now lets look at the surrounding communitys and say that there are maybe 5 or 6 A Pee wees better than all 30 of those B's from Edina that are so good. And all the Bantams ahead of them.

So in all we are looking at a few hundred kids that are all better hockey players than those 30 B pee wees just in a tri city area we will say, not to mention the entire state. Not to mention the entire country. Not to mention Canada, or over seas.

So you are right those kids dont need to practice because they are good at B Pee Wees.

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:19 pm

There are 15 Kids in that community that are better than all 30 of the B pee wees, just just at ages 12 and 13 alone

So one week out of the year determines the kids fate and you have those kids slotted for no future in hockey. I wasn't sure if it was sarcasm or just ignorance on your part. Sure, making the NHL is a long shot, even for the best 12 or 13 year old in the state today, but you still need to create an environment that forces the kids to have compete more than 1 out of 8 games. This is a strong group and there is enough strong players to make 2 competitive A teams (the next wave is a little weaker).

I am absolutely amazed on how when associations have a deep talent pool one year, they don't adjust their teams accordingly. I also am trying to figure out why weak associations insist on having an A team when they clearly don't have the talent and end up getting smoked on a consistant basis. It obviously isn't for the kids best opportunity to develop and have fun-must be an adult ego thing.

Barman · Post by **Barman** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:03 pm

It's too bad that the Edina board won't give these "next 15" a chance at A to show what they can really do. My bet is that they would end up a top 20 team if they were pushed by their competition.

Wisconsinguy · Post by **Wisconsinguy** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:23 pm

Just wait, Elk River will beat the Edina teams in state. We lost a close game to Edina (at their arena with their ref's), it will be a different story in state.

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:27 pm

[quote="Wisconsinguy"]Just wait, Elk River will beat the Edina teams in state. We lost a close game to Edina (at their arena with their ref's), it will be a different story in state.

[/quote]

thatta boy

hockeyboys · Post by **hockeyboys** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:33 am

These kids will have a chance to move on. Kids will drop out. Some will go through puberty and be more interested in girls than hockey. Many on the B team will work hard, grow and be better than half the kids on the A team. Take a look at Edina's Varsity 3rd line - not so great - huge drop off from the 1st line. Not all were A players every year in youth hockey.
Then there is private schools and open enrollment - which will give oportunities to more of these players. Playing A or B hockey in Peewees has less to do with future success than hard work and determination.

hockey501 · Post by **hockey501** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:19 am

packerpuck19 wrote:Wow, there's an intelegent answer.

Because B pee wee is the Climax of these kid's hockey careers. Lets look at the big picture here. There are 15 Kids in that community that are better than all 30 of the B pee wees, just just at ages 12 and 13 alone. Not to mention all the competition at the Bantam level that they will be competing with for a varsity spot in 3 or 4 years, so now we are looking at 40 to 50 kids better than those 30 B pee wees. And now lets look at the surrounding communitys and say that there are maybe 5 or 6 A Pee wees better than all 30 of those B's from Edina that are so good. And all the Bantams ahead of them.

So in all we are looking at a few hundred kids that are all better hockey players than those 30 B pee wees just in a tri city area we will say, not to mention the entire state. Not to mention the entire country. Not to mention Canada, or over seas.

So you are right those kids dont need to practice because they are good at B Pee Wees.

Packerpuck,

Using the rational that you have attempted above, the 2nd year Pee Wee "A" players around the state that played Pee Wee "B1" as first years are beyond the "climax" of their hockey careers?

If this team (as well as all Pee Wee B1 teams) has several (or at least a few) first year players, your "rational" is even more flawed than it appears at first glance.

Tenoverpar · Post by **Tenoverpar** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:50 am

I'm just going to out on a limb and say that PackerPuck is an idiot in his thought process

Bruins · Post by **Bruins** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:06 pm

Outscored D6 teams 90-5 with 13 shutouts then have 9 goals scored on them by 97 Fire in two games. These boys were not challenged enough in D6. If the had the opportunity to play A level they probably would have been at minimum a mid level team. To many blowouts then lose twice to a skilled younger and smaller team (97 fire), these boys could have been pushed more making them even better hockey players. Edina hockey evaluaters should have seen this during evaluations and made two or even three A teams. The PW White team looks just as strong. There is nothing wrong with losing a few games if the kids are being challenged more.

packerpuck19 · Post by **packerpuck19** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:06 pm

Bruins,

Completely agree. They would benefit far more even by competing with each other at practice since they are all good players at the pee wee level then they would by winning games 9-0 over players that just dont match up. Im done talking about this. I just thought it was astounding that B Pee Wees would play that many games at that young of an age. They are getting jipped from the development that they deserve.

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:42 pm

Perhaps the big prize of a state championship is the reason associations do not have two A teams at Peewees and Bantams. Maybe that is why some associations do put two A teams at squirts. Maybe that is why MN Hockey doesn't have a state chip at squirts, and encourages development.

A few people could go to MN Hockey and request to allow B registered teams to compete in A tournaments. I would bet Edina would enter a few.
Right now it is my understanding that B2 can enter B trnys but that is it.

slapshot44 · Post by **slapshot44** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:43 am

[quote="Bruins"]Outscored D6 teams 90-5 with 13 shutouts then have 9 goals scored on them by 97 Fire in two games. These boys were not challenged enough in D6. If the had the opportunity to play A level they probably would have been at minimum a mid level team. To many blowouts then lose twice to a skilled younger and smaller team (97 fire), these boys could have been pushed more making them even better hockey players. Edina hockey evaluaters should have seen this during evaluations and made two or even three A teams. The PW White team looks just as strong. There is nothing wrong with losing a few games if the kids are being challenged more.[/quote]

yes, but remember that b1 green is not edina's second "A" team, they are equally distributed with b1 white, maybe it would be different if edina decided to stack their b1 teams, but they dont.

slapshot44 · Post by **slapshot44** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:48 pm

Another loss to the fire for edina green, this one having a score of 2-1.

hockeyman84 · Post by **hockeyman84** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:09 pm

you can never tell a kids full potential at peewees i know of one kid from Mpls/Park who played 2 years of peewee B1 went to the state tournament and the very next year jumped players who he was cut for and made the bantam A team. This year he is on the A team again and has another shot at state. Remember these kids in the future they could play major roles in bantams and varsity.

edinahornetkid24 · Post by **edinahornetkid24** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:43 pm

Wisconsinguy wrote:Just wait, Elk River will beat the Edina teams in state. We lost a close game to Edina (at their arena with their ref's), it will be a different story in state.

One word, no.

matthebat · Post by **matthebat** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:50 pm

edinahornetkid24 wrote:
Wisconsinguy wrote:Just wait, Elk River will beat the Edina teams in state. We lost a close game to Edina (at their arena with their ref's), it will be a different story in state.
One word, no.

I'd like to see Elk River beat them

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