SCSU Goalies

slapshot89 · Post by **slapshot89** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:55 pm

Do they switch goalies every game? I was watching the Alaska Anchorage game and they were some what dominating the game, but there goalie was playing bad, and let in some easy shots. The three games I've watched all had different goalies, whats going on?

newsguy35 · Post by **newsguy35** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:40 am

They played 2 different goalies against BSU also. The only 2 games I have really watched of theirs and they were outplayed but still found ways to win. Not impressed with either of their 2 goalies, i would have to say that they may be heavily recruiting a goalie or 2 after/during this year.

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:00 pm

...Both of their current goalies are NHL draft picks...

Weslosky has a 1.719 GAA this year and a save percentage of just under 94%.

Last year he had a 2.671 GAA and an 89.9 Save %.

I think they are pretty safe and solid a goaltender for a couple years.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:14 pm

newsguy35 wrote:Not impressed with either of their 2 goalies

I think once they start playing some better teams, your comment will have even more merit.

slapshot89 · Post by **slapshot89** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:06 pm

Weslosky's stats don't lie, and when he's in the net it seems fine, Dunn and O'brien on the other hand scare me.

newsguy35 · Post by **newsguy35** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:09 am

slapshot89 wrote:Weslosky's stats don't lie, and when he's in the net it seems fine, Dunn and O'brien on the other hand scare me.

Who did he play against last year and so far this year he has not been that great. Anchorage, BSU, MTU, UMD and he didnt play tonight against Canisius (I agree with the O'Brien comment). We will see if he shows up the entire season and with that said, he hasnt had a decent amount of game time as the starter...

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:56 am

I don't know. A 94% saves percentage no matter who you play is pretty good. These aren't mini-mites that they've played against, they're division 1 hockey players.

HockeyGuy1515 · Post by **HockeyGuy1515** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:14 pm

[quote="newsguy35"]They played 2 different goalies against BSU also. The only 2 games I have really watched of theirs and they were outplayed but still found ways to win. Not impressed with either of their 2 goalies, i would have to say that they may be heavily recruiting a goalie or 2 after/during this year.[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea to me.

Scsu · Post by **Scsu** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:24 pm

jase is a good goalie but dunn blows and o'brian is too shaky they would have a few more wins if they started weslosky every game

Scsu · Post by **Scsu** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:25 pm

newsguy35 wrote:
slapshot89 wrote:Weslosky's stats don't lie, and when he's in the net it seems fine, Dunn and O'brien on the other hand scare me.
Who did he play against last year and so far this year he has not been that great. Anchorage, BSU, MTU, UMD and he didnt play tonight against Canisius (I agree with the O'Brien comment). We will see if he shows up the entire season and with that said, he hasnt had a decent amount of game time as the starter...

i thought weslosky shut out canisus the first game when he played

slapshot89 · Post by **slapshot89** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:01 pm

Jase did pretty good again Denver this weekend, 3-2 Denver both games in which scsu had good chances to win. Sigh, tied for last place now with UAA.

NHL07cheif · Post by **NHL07cheif** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:21 pm

i have been to every SCSU home game and i can tell you that, yes, Weslosky is the best goalie on the team, however Dan Dunn does not suck by any means.....he is a good goalie with lots of talent.....he was also drafted by the Washington Capitals....he is a big guy and will be a great goalie @ SCSU once Weslosky is gone......O'Brien on the otherhand scares me

STC18 · Post by **STC18** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:01 pm

NHL07cheif wrote:i have been to every SCSU home game and i can tell you that, yes, Weslosky is the best goalie on the team, however Dan Dunn does not suck by any means.....he is a good goalie with lots of talent.....he was also drafted by the Washington Capitals....he is a big guy and will be a great goalie @ SCSU once Weslosky is gone......O'Brien on the otherhand scares me

Dunn kept the Huskies in the game last night at times. Dunn and Weslosky are both very solid golatenders.

Tigerpride2 · Post by **Tigerpride2** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:58 am

Dunn played really well against UND last friday but not so much Sat... I agree that weslosky is the best tender.

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:53 am

Gopher Blog wrote:
newsguy35 wrote:Not impressed with either of their 2 goalies
I think once they start playing some better teams, your comment will have even more merit.

Well, I've let the Huskies play some better teams to see if your comment would have any merit...

Jase Weslosky has .927 Save % and a 2.1865 GAA.

Dan Dunn has a .92 Save % and a 2.4883 GAA.

Even after playing some of the 'better' teams, the goalies numbers still look good.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:48 pm

George Blanda wrote:Even after playing some of the 'better' teams, the goalies numbers still look good.

If the goalie play has been that good, then why has Motzko been lamenting the soft goals and switching guys around? Heck, it was just last weekend that he pulled Dunn out of a game.

I will give Weslosky credit for a good game last night. Especially in the 3rd period when the Gophers were all over SCSU. He did a good job keeping them off the board.

PS - Hope you enjoy Schmidt wearing the "M" since you appear to be a Cathedral backer as well as an SCSU fan.

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:57 pm

Gopher Blog wrote:
George Blanda wrote:Even after playing some of the 'better' teams, the goalies numbers still look good.
If the goalie play has been that good, then why has Motzko been lamenting the soft goals and switching guys around? Heck, it was just last weekend that he pulled Dunn out of a game.

I will give Weslosky credit for a good game last night. Especially in the 3rd period when the Gophers were all over SCSU. He did a good job keeping them off the board.

PS - Hope you enjoy Schmidt wearing the "M" since you appear to be a Cathedral backer as well as an SCSU fan.

Hmmm...so you're saying those stats aren't good...interesting...

Gopher Blog...I respect what you say, you've got a lot of credibility and always have good write-ups...But you think I'm so anti-Gopher and pro-Husky. That is a joke. I understand your biased views. After all, your name is Gopher Blog. But you biased views have interfered with your sense of reality.

As for Schmidt, I think he made a good choice. It doesn't bother me to see him go. One of my neighborhood buddies growing up plays for the Gophers and now I have another buddy going to the Gophers. My life will go on. Mike Howe has made me a Gopher fan...only when they aren't playing the Huskies. So...I will enjoy watching Nate play in the maroon and gold, just as I've enjoyed watching Mike play these last four years.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:34 am

George Blanda wrote:Hmmm...so you're saying those stats aren't good...interesting...

I think they can be misleading. I think you have to look beyond just the surface.

For instance, if you look at Weslosky's numbers in WCHA games alone, it isn't quite the same. 2.81 GAA and slightly above 90% save percentage. While not bad, is that what you consider real "good"?

A player could have a bunch of very good games against soft competition and then do "OK" in a small number of games against good teams and still appear to have good numbers. There are plenty of factors involved.

You also have to look league wide at what is going on and compare. For instance, there are a good half a dozen WCHA goalies with a better GAA and Save % in league play than Weslosky (using league play as the fair comparison since out of conference strength of schedule varies).

And look at the league as a whole. The WCHA is down this year. Scoring numbers have dropped quite a bit from just two seasons ago since the NHL has robbed the league of many talented scorers. Two years ago, we had two league teams over 100 goals in league play and six total teams with over 90 goals in league play. Last year, we only had two teams reach the 90 goal mark (none over 100) and this year is looking similar (CC and UND are the only teams on pace for over 90). The offense numbers as a whole this year are decreased from last year and last year was a big drop from the previous year. When you take that into account, a goalie with a 2.3 GAA and a 91% save % two years ago is much more impressive than one with those numbers this year.

I think it is fair to say the league's offensive numbers aren't down that much because defense/goaltending is so much better. It is more because the scoring talent is down because of so many departures.

So when you say "good", I guess it just depends on what frame of reference you are using.

If you think the above commentary is unfair, I don't see it that way. I think I am judging from a much more in depth point of view and balanced point of view than you think.

Like I said, even Motzko has lamented some shoddy goals and has pulled the goalie out of a game as recently as last week. If he can complain about it, I don't see how I am being all that unfair.

Hey, its not as if I am here praising the Gophers goalie situation as something greater in comparison. I could understand you throwing out the "bias" card then. But I have hardly been espousing that agenda.