Hockey in the Hood!!!

[Icypalms]

There has been discussions on other threads from people in the suburbs telling what needs to be done in the inter-city to increase numbers of players involved. Please give detailed examples of ways to accomplish that. <p></p><i></i>

[hawkfan70]

there is a poster on here that believes we should make them all play A level hockey so they get thier butts handed to them every game. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>that should really help increase the numbers <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <br><br> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[TyrellFashizo]

That must be rinkrat95-<br>He's been on a few other threads saying the same thing. I think it would kill the youth hockey movement if we only had to play at the A level.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>"Pimp'n ain't easy" </p><i></i>

[Gildan2036]

What about Como this year? <br><br>They had a chance to play A level and they KILLED teams in the "B" level. <br><br>What is your opinion on that Hawkfan?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[TyrellFashizo]

I don't think its fair to lump EVERY team that EVER had a chance to go up and play "A" in the same group. <br><br>Como was facing some rough situations.<br>1. they got KILLED in squirts<br>2. they weren't sure they would even have the team<br>3. they had coaches who decided this for them (THEN QUIT)<br>4. the district doesn't have a backbone to move them when they start killing the other "B" teams<br>5. i can't think of more right now <p>"Pimp'n ain't easy" </p><i></i>

[Gildan2036]

I think you guys in the hood should get T-shirts that have that as a slogan.<br><br>Hockey in the Hood!<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Rinkrat95]

Hawkfan70-<br><br>there is a poster (rinkrat95) on here that believes we should make them all play A level hockey so they get thier butts handed to them every game.<br><br>Because playing "B" level hockey like Como - when they SHOULD have been at "A" level hockey only teaches them, its OK to suck just enough not to play at the top. You are the cream of the crap. If we put some more sugar on it, it might start to taste like - candy. <br><br>So what shall we tell the Como kids this year?<br>You went unbeaten ALL year, but lost the first and second game in Regionals - OUT. Any thoughts?<br><br>You had fun beating up the other teams. Shouldn't they get that feeling too? <p></p><i></i>

[elliott70]

MN Hockey could drop the fee for households with small incomes.<br>And subsidize the USA Hockey fee.<br>This does not need to be just an inner city thing either.<br><br>And a pool of equipment could be gathered via Goodwill Industries (or something similar).<br>U fo M (and others) could provide students (for credits) to act as translators, tutors, mentors.<br><br>Minortiy games (tournament) (need not be restricted to 100% minority kis on a team) could be established.<br>Red Lake reservation could bring a team to the cities to participate. <p></p><i></i>

[TyrellFashizo]

I think there is a high school age leauge like that at the U of M. No checking. Minimal contact.<br><br>How would you get the ice? Its been bad outside for the past 5 years.<br><br> <p>"Pimp'n ain't easy" </p><i></i>

[Barado32]

I almost broke my neck doing a double take.<br>Thats an interesting viewpoint. <p></p><i></i>

[troll21]

Take the funds MNHOCKEY spends on the great 8 festival and help the inner city programs.<br><br>Get rid of HEP and apply the funds to a worthy cause.<br><br>Break away from USA Hockey and take those fees to supplement inner city programs.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[elliott70]

I am pretty sure the Great 8 is self-sufficient now. <p></p><i></i>

[tjhd5]

take all the crappy, non sufficient programs Mn hockey has and put the money to the KIDS.... this isnt that hard. but you will have to get rid off all the pet projects that waste money and do nothing for the KIDS. when was the last itme Mn hockey made a direct drive to get get more KIDS playing the game... It is not just an inner city problem.. Get out state and the numbers are dropping also.... why. If you dont have anybody playing ,there is no need for all the projects Mn Hockey seems to throw at us <p></p><i></i>

[TyrellFashizo]

The only way to stop MN hockey from having all that money is to boycott and form an AAA team. But then there is no state tournament chance for the kids. I can' believe how much money is wasted each year on things like HEP. I never heard about it from anyone in our orginization.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>"Pimp'n ain't easy" </p><i></i>

[troll21]

I apologize, I am way of track of the original thread.<br><br>Now this is only speculation but ----<br><br>That is why the financial statements for MNHOCKEY are not posted on the MNHOCKEY website, they do not want members to know the amount that is spent or lost on programs. Amounts are posted in the minutes about funds in an account, but the actual amounts spent on a program from the members would be listed in the financial statements andis not printed for viewing. <br><br>Accoridng to MN State Statute 317A.461, (I think MNHOCKEY is a 501(C) and all associations in the state), must release this information, within a reasonable amount of time, if requested by a party. <br><br>When it comes to money, whether in business or organized activities, its always a subject that is questioned on what is right and wrong in the accounting, where the funds should be applied, funds redirected, or who has to answer for the poor money management, if applicable. <p></p><i></i>

[Barado32]

I don't think that AAA teams should be allowed to play in any MAHA events or that they should be allowed to scrimmage against any teams that are MAHA regulated. They don't follow the rules, they don't want to be a part of the bigger system. I've coached kids that came back from an AAA team to play regular districts. They didn't advance any faster or further than someone who played MAHA hockey.<br><br>I think we need to check in to getting our money back from MAHA. They are just like a politician at the capital. They need to be held accountable for WASTING our kids money. <p></p><i></i>

[1goallead]

What is the problem with AAA teams? My kid does not play for one and will probably never be recruited for one. With that being said, I think if a parent wants that for their kid(s) then they should have that option. I really don't think you will see a mass exodus to in-season AAA. If they want to travel the Midwest and play teams like Chicago Mission, Shattuck, etc. that is their business. If the kids don't get any better then that is their problem. If an association wants to play these teams they should be able to do so witout any restrictions. Kids already move to different associations for hockey reasons. Are you going to prevent them from moving? Look at the kid mentioned in "Blades of Glory", he went from Chaska to Jefferson to Breck to USA development. His parents did what they thought was best for his development, period. I think within ten years, you will see a Shattuck type program in the Metro, watch SPA. I think MAHA should let these teams register independent in Minnesota and be able to play home games in Minnesota.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[TyrellFashizo]

SPA?<br>are you saying that SPA will have a feeder program other than Highland, or that highland will go AAA? <p>"Pimp'n ain't easy" </p><i></i>

[Barado32]

I don't have anything against AAA teams, but they don't follow the rules and my point was that they shouldn't be allowed to play against MAHA teams. If they don't follow the same rules, how can you keep the game fair for the kids?<br><br>I agree, choose where you want to play (if you can afford it).<br>It really comes down to money.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[1goallead]

No, I'm not saying Highlands will go AAA or be impacted in any way. I'm saying the head of hockey for SPA started the current Stattuck program in the early 90's and is involved with AAA programs in the state. With SPA he has his own rink. Just speculation on my part. Didn't mean to start any rumors for Highlands. As for feeder programs, who do you think is involved with Team Midwest and AAA Rockets.<br>The only rules I would be concerned with is if an AAA team had early birth year kids on a team that put the kids in Bantams and the team wanted to play in peewees. They would have to follow minnekota age rules to play in Minnesota just like they probably follow USA hockey age rules when playing elsewhere. <p></p><i></i>

[ice00breaker]

i don't care what anyone says about como, they play in the TC district. when teams in the TC district go 1-18 in regional playoffs, you know that they have to be WEAK<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Barado32]

Point seen and point taken, I like the thoughts.<br><br>I know about the SPA situation and he's getting the kids from all over, and most of them aren't very good. He'll need to clean house over there and start recruiting. Which is what most private schools do (and lets be honest about it). <p></p><i></i>

[JOHNSONPREZ]

ice00breaker, We had 2 games in the regionals yes we lost to a very good Eagan team with 45 seconds left but after the game their coach told me we outplayed them and took everything out of them. Yeah we lost but we were very competitive. We played Eagan Friday night and left Brooklyn Park Arena about 10:15 p.m. and had to play Mahtomedi at 10:00 a.m. the next morning but Mahtomedi played on Thursday night and had a extra day of rest but you would not think that would be any advantage. I am Very proud of our Johnson"A" Pee Wee team everyone said we would be blown out . Lost to Eagan 4 to 3 and to Mahtomedi 3 to 2 both close games but yes we lost all the same. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... SONPREZ</A> at: 3/8/06 12:56 pm<br></i>

[goldy313]

Partner with organizations like the Boy's and Girl's clubs, try and get a middle schools sports program going so practice is after school and kids can get bussed. A hockey development "surcharge" added on to district fees teams already pay; $200 per team works out to about $14 a kid, and Rochester alone would send $3600 to a program like that and the lowest levels still wouldn't have to pay anything. <p></p><i></i>

[barado23]

Saint Paul schools are alredy strapped for money. In the old days kids went to school at schools that were a few blocks away. Now with mandatory bussing a kid has no choice but to bus across town because we have to have a racial mix. Can you amagine how much bussing costs in the city. In rural areas it is needed to attend school here we have it for equality. In the city if you are a good football or basketball player you bus to Johnson. Hockey is starting to be the same way, but at the youth level we had a big numbers year 18 Bantams-42 Pee Wee's and 43 Squirts and those are large for them. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... arado23</A> at: 3/8/06 1:58 pm<br></i>