Reggie Bush wins Heisman

iknowbetter · Post by **iknowbetter** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:03 pm

Would he be a great hockey player?

EREmpireStrikesBack · Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:30 pm

If he woulda started out playing, I don't doubt it. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:13 pm

This is not about his hockey career, but his NFL career. I am in the minority and believe that while he was a great college player, he won't be a great pro player. I do see him as a fantastic 3rd down back, a good return man (not as good as Dante Hall, or even Devin Hester, but still good), and someone that can get 800-1000 rushing yards a season. He won't ever be in the upper echelon of RBs (Tomlinson, Alexander). ------------------- Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the Pawtucket Patriot brewery.- Peter Griffin

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:53 pm

Exactly^^^ He was not even the everydown back at USC, that was LenDale White. His body/style just isn't made to play everydown in the NFL. He will be a 15 carries/5 catches type of guy. Kinda reminds me of Warrick Dunn, cept bigger. If I was looking for an everydown stud type of RB, I'd go w/ Maroney or DeAngelo Williams. Just me though... Kinda reminds me of Michael Vick. Amazing athlete, but not really perfectly suited for any position. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 GirlsEdited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... kesBack</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://images.usatoday.com/news/health/ ... /darth.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 12/12/05 4:00 pm

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:05 pm

Marshall Faulk was never a prototype running back either but he made a nice career for himself. I see Bush in that mold, he has to be in the right offense to succeed, like he is at USC. You put Bush in a place like Chicago, Buffalo, or Baltimore and he will never amount to much, put him in Atlanta, Denver or Minnesota and he does.

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:23 pm

I think the top back is Williams. He is the only one that I have seen can be an EVERY down back, and not get hurt. If he played at a BCS school, and not Memphis, he would get much more attention than he does now. He will be the best of the three, and I think the second best will come from a group off the radar. My guess is Michael Bush from Louisville will be the 2nd best back from this class. Maroney would be my #3. ------------------- Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the Pawtucket Patriot brewery.- Peter Griffin

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:10 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>You put Bush in a place like Chicago, Buffalo, or Baltimore and he will never amount to much, put him in Atlanta, Denver or Minnesota and he does.<hr></blockquote> Well I guarantee he won't be in any of those places. My guess is the Jets, but I'm not sure. That wouldn't be terrible for him, but we'll see. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:32 pm

The Jets need a QB badly, Bollinger was an average college QB, and leaves a lot to be desired as a pro. Curtis Martin is getting up there but he still has 2-4 good years left in him. My guess is Houston will get take him, playing on that field should benefit him, but the Texans are terrible and can't run much down by 20 every game.

icantstopthepuck · Post by **icantstopthepuck** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:12 pm

my guess is that Young goes #1 bush probably won't be as good in the pros as in college. everyone is at almost the same level as him now so he can't take a hand-off that is supposed to go up the middle and bounce it outside for a huge gain. if he learn to just go through the line he will be a good player not great just good

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:19 pm

My guess is that he returns next year. I also think LenDale White will be better in the pros than Bush. White's game translates better than Bush's, IMO. ------------------- Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the Pawtucket Patriot brewery.- Peter Griffin

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:43 am

Amen to the Bush statements above. And I said to a buddy earlier this year that I would rather have LenDale in the pros and he looked at me crazy. I can't wait to laugh at him <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

2AhockeyOldTimer · Post by **2AhockeyOldTimer** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:17 pm

Reggie is looked at by almost every NFL "expert" as the first overall pick in the draft. LenDale would also go in the first round if he came out this year, but definately not first overall. That means the "experts" expect big things out of Reggie. We'll have to wait and see who will be the better RB, but I'll take Reggie because he's far more versatile. 2A

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:30 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>but I'll take Reggie because he's far more versatile.<hr></blockquote> Does that mean he will be a better RB though? You could consider Antuan Randle-El the best WR because of his versatility. A RB to me means that he can carry the ball 25+ times, pound it up the middle when need be, catch the ball and pass protect. LenDale just seems a better fit for an NFL RB, he's got the body and the style for it. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

2AhockeyOldTimer · Post by **2AhockeyOldTimer** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:42 pm

If LenDale is going to be a better NFL RB, then why is he not going ahead of Reggie. And...reggie is better catching the ball out of the backfield. 2A

starsalum · Post by **starsalum** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:12 pm

Reggie's tough as nails, it may not look like it but I've seen him knock linemen outa their socks. He may not live up to all the hype a few weeks ago but he is going to be awesome.

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:58 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> If LenDale is going to be a better NFL RB, then why is he not going ahead of Reggie.<hr></blockquote> Little thing called hype. People love Reggie because of the moves he can put on people in college. He won't be able to get away with the stuff he could in college at the pro level. Defenses are much better and the coaches are much better gameplanners. I'm not saying he is going to be a total bust, I'm just saying he isn't a true pro RB and I don't think he will live up to the hype. He reminds me of Warrick Dunn kinda because he is shifty, has the moves, quick, can catch the ball, but he can't pound in and get the yard or two when you need it and he isn't going to be able to carry the ball 25+ times for you. If the Texans do draft him, it could be a very good situation for him if they keem Dom Davis too because that would lighten his load and he wouldn't have to do the heavy carrying. Another he reminds me of is Duce Staley, just better. I wouldn't mind seeing the Vikes get LenDale with their first round pick if DeAngelo or Laurence isn't available. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

2AhockeyOldTimer · Post by **2AhockeyOldTimer** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:33 pm

wow, there is a difference between overhype by fans and hype by pro scouts. The pro scouts obviously think Reggie will be better. Who do i want the vikings to pick? Like you said, Laurence, DeAngelo, or LenDale...all are good options. 2A

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:24 pm

ER- How about this as a Bush comparison- Eric Metcalf. He had one monster year (1995) as a WR, but was best known as a great return man, especially at PR. Metcalf was a 3 time Pro-Bowler, all for PR. <a href="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1283" target="top">Eric Metcalf stats</a> I doubt DeAngelo will fall to us, so my pick would be Maroney. ------------------- Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the Pawtucket Patriot brewery.- Peter Griffin

EREmpireStrikesBack · Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:17 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The pro scouts obviously think Reggie will be better.<hr></blockquote> Do I really need to name names? Ryan Leaf, Ki-Jana Carter, Rashan Salaam, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Curtis Enis... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:43 pm

Ah...Ryan Leaf. Remember back in 1998 when the Colts agonized over who to pick between Manning and Leaf? How different would the NFL be right now if Leaf went to the Colts and Manning was with the Chargers? If that happens, the following players might be on different teams. There probably are more too, but this is just off the top of my head.: Peyton Manning LaDainian Tomlinson Michael Vick Drew Brees Edgerrin James Also, just as I did not predict, Vince Young is going into the draft. ------------------- Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the Pawtucket Patriot brewery.- Peter Griffin

2AhockeyOldTimer · Post by **2AhockeyOldTimer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:33 pm

ER - Do I really need to name names? Carson Palmer Mike Vick Peyton Manning John Elway Bruce Smith Troy Aikman 2A

2AhockeyOldTimer · Post by **2AhockeyOldTimer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:39 pm

You gave us some names of bad RBs that went first for RBs in the Draft, here are some good ones.. Eric Dickerson Barry Sanders Marshall Faulk Edgerring James Jamal Lewis LaDainian Tomlinson Willis McGahee Stephen Jackson 2A

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:28 pm

Which name didn't belong in that first list? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"> And yes there have been some good RB's to go in the first round, all I was saying is that "pro scout hype" means nothing. There are a lot of people who have been hyped up and "impossible busts" that ended up terrible. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

2AhockeyOldTimer · Post by **2AhockeyOldTimer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:35 pm

And All i'm saying is that reggie Bush will be a better pro running back than LenDale White. 2A

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:14 am

WELL YOU ARE WRONG!!! (just messing <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> ) <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

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