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heard the mn high school league lost in court concerning transfer and returning players and the jury was still in the process of figuring damages
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I don't believe any of the similar suits in other states have been successful. Minnesota's rule was modeled on other states that had been challenged unsuccessfully in court. If what you say is true, high school sports in Minnesota will cease to exist.
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Talk to me in 5 years when the appeals process is over.
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in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
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Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
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How do we know any of this is even true? Is there a link somewhere?
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We don't. But if it is true, the sky isn't falling and the matter is far from being resolved.
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Can someone provide cliff note version of what the issue is? No more than six sentences. Thanks GB
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Looks like 3 different suits were filed. Not sure which one is referenced in this thread

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you can find information at kstp who aired the story on the 24th. or you can call the high school league iam sure they would be happy to inform us on whats going on.
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Goldy Gopher wrote:
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
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hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
The quote from the article was, "In those documents, a judge writes that there’s no reason that a transferring student should be excluded from participating in varsity athletics."

That sounds like a pretty broad ruling, and not specific to this case. Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Varsity Athletics is a privilege and can be taken away for numerous reasons. It's not like a kid's Civil Rights are being violated.
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hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
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Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote: If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
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Post by jg2112 »

Well geez guys. I looked at the KSTP "story," then went to the MN Court Records website. Typed in the High School league and the lawsuits popped up. The last one was filed 10/24 in Winona County. I take it this is the lawsuit referred to in this thread.

There's a motion on 11/10.

I don't see any "ruling" here. There is no "order," no "judgment," no jury, no damages, no nothing.

The reporter saying "a jury will weigh in on the amount of damages" can mean something as simple and as non-judgmental as the plaintiffs requested a jury trial.
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Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote: If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Umm, Goldy, I am a woman, or, as Donald Trump has characterized our breed, a "Nasty woman."

As far as the precedential value of this case, a district court judge in Minnesota cannot establish legal precedence. Only the Minnesota Court of Appeals and Minnesota Supreme Court can establish binding precedent.
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hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote: With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Umm, Goldy, I am a woman, or, as Donald Trump has characterized our breed, a "Nasty woman."

As far as the precedential value of this case, a district court judge in Minnesota cannot establish legal precedence. Only the Minnesota Court of Appeals and Minnesota Supreme Court can establish binding precedent.


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Finally, the voice of reason. Hockey is a Choice is the only one on here that knows that? MN needs some better civics classes... Zero precedence established here. The list of district court cases that go every which way is longer than the Don's National Championship draught is (will be). I actually doubt this will be appealed unless the powers that be WANT to establish precedence. If a few more of these go and have similar results, then you will get an appeal.
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote: With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Umm, Goldy, I am a woman, or, as Donald Trump has characterized our breed, a "Nasty woman."

As far as the precedential value of this case, a district court judge in Minnesota cannot establish legal precedence. Only the Minnesota Court of Appeals and Minnesota Supreme Court can establish binding precedent.
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