Seeding meetings

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:03 am

1A
2A
3A
4A
5A
6A Wednesday FEB 10
7A
8A Wednesday FEB 10

1AA
2AA
3AA
4AA
5AA
6AA
7AA
8AA Wednesday FEB 10

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:10 am

elliott70 wrote:1A
2A
3A
4A
5A
6A Wednesday FEB 10
7A
8A Wednesday FEB 10

1AA
2AA
3AA
4AA
5AA
6AA
7AA Wednesday Feb 10 430pm
8AA Wednesday FEB 10

DrGaf · Post by **DrGaf** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:50 am

1A
2A
3A
4A
5A
6A Wednesday FEB 10
7A
8A Wednesday FEB 10

1AA
2AA
3AA Sunday 2-14-16
4AA
5AA
6AA
7AA Wednesday Feb 10 430pm
8AA Wednesday FEB 10

Slapper Al · Post by **Slapper Al** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:00 am

4A/AA Sunday Feb 14th 12:30PM

CherryPicker99 · Post by **CherryPicker99** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:51 am

I believe 3A is on February 10th.

My_Kid_Loves_Hockey · Post by **My_Kid_Loves_Hockey** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:14 pm

I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7

crw · Post by **crw** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:56 pm

My_Kid_Loves_Hockey wrote:I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7

If true, it sounds like the Northern Screw Job everyone always talks about is taking place!!

Roseau isn't in a single ranking or QRF in the top 4 and STMA isn't below 3 in any rankings.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:00 am

crw wrote:
My_Kid_Loves_Hockey wrote:I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7
If true, it sounds like the Northern Screw Job everyone always talks about is taking place!!

Roseau isn't in a single ranking or QRF in the top 4 and STMA isn't below 3 in any rankings.

I think not playing Brainerd likely hurt STMA quite a bit.
STMA lost by 3 to Bemidji, lost by 2 to Moorhead, tied Roseau and tied then beat Buffalo by 2. With results from the rest of the section, I could see a win over Brainerd shooting them up to the 3 seed. But without playing the game they're up to how things shake out with the rest of the section. And Brainerd actually did much better than them. I could understand STMA ahead of Roseau, but Roseau has a win over Brainerd that STMA doesn't...

crw · Post by **crw** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:55 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:
crw wrote:
My_Kid_Loves_Hockey wrote:I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7
If true, it sounds like the Northern Screw Job everyone always talks about is taking place!!

Roseau isn't in a single ranking or QRF in the top 4 and STMA isn't below 3 in any rankings.
I think not playing Brainerd likely hurt STMA quite a bit.
STMA lost by 3 to Bemidji, lost by 2 to Moorhead, tied Roseau and tied then beat Buffalo by 2. With results from the rest of the section, I could see a win over Brainerd shooting them up to the 3 seed. But without playing the game they're up to how things shake out with the rest of the section. And Brainerd actually did much better than them. I could understand STMA ahead of Roseau, but Roseau has a win over Brainerd that STMA doesn't...

Section Record
STMA 2-2-2 (14-6-2)
Roseau 1-5-1 (10-12-2)
Tied only head to head game... (I would agree that Roseau played tougher section games, but you need to win them.. no such thing as a quality loss.. a loss is a loss)

Roseau did lose 3-5 to Bemidji while STMA lost 2-5... but lets not forget the 0-5 loss to Bemidji that Roseau also had.

Roseau doesnt have a quality win against a top rated team.. best wins are Brainerd, Cloquet (sub .500 team) and Duluth Marshal (Sub .500 team) also split with Warroad (sub par A team)

STMA has quality wins versus top rated teams in the state - Duluth East and Breck.. also a bad loss to St. Francis. the tie early with Buffalo isn't a great thing but it wasn't a loss vs arch rival (like the Warroad lose)

I totally get the Brainerd argument, Just don't see the Roseau as 4 and STMA at 5 at all. (BUT I DONT GET A VOTE

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elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:09 am

My_Kid_Loves_Hockey wrote:I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7

Who did you hear the seedings from?

They do email them, but the regional secretary, Dave Harris in Alex would not be releasing the info yet (I am sure not everyone has sent theirs in yet).

Talked to two coaches yesterday with no inkling that they had voted yet.

crw · Post by **crw** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:13 am

elliott70 wrote:
My_Kid_Loves_Hockey wrote:I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7
Who did you hear the seedings from?

They do email them, but the regional secretary, Dave Harris in Alex would not be releasing the info yet (I am sure not everyone has sent theirs in yet).

Talked to two coaches yesterday with no inkling that they had voted yet.

I'm sure its just people's rumors stirring the pot... makes for good entertainment though

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:14 am

crw wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
crw wrote: If true, it sounds like the Northern Screw Job everyone always talks about is taking place!!

Roseau isn't in a single ranking or QRF in the top 4 and STMA isn't below 3 in any rankings.
I think not playing Brainerd likely hurt STMA quite a bit.
STMA lost by 3 to Bemidji, lost by 2 to Moorhead, tied Roseau and tied then beat Buffalo by 2. With results from the rest of the section, I could see a win over Brainerd shooting them up to the 3 seed. But without playing the game they're up to how things shake out with the rest of the section. And Brainerd actually did much better than them. I could understand STMA ahead of Roseau, but Roseau has a win over Brainerd that STMA doesn't...
Section Record
STMA 2-2-2 (14-6-2)
Roseau 1-5-1 (10-12-2)
Tied only head to head game... (I would agree that Roseau played tougher section games, but you need to win them.. no such thing as a quality loss.. a loss is a loss)

Roseau did lose 3-5 to Bemidji while STMA lost 2-5... but lets not forget the 0-5 loss to Bemidji that Roseau also had.

Roseau doesnt have a quality win against a top rated team.. best wins are Brainerd, Cloquet (sub .500 team) and Duluth Marshal (Sub .500 team) also got swept by Warroad (sub par A team)

STMA has quality wins versus top rated teams in the state - Duluth East and Breck.. also a bad loss to St. Francis. the tie early with Buffalo isn't a great thing but it wasn't a loss vs arch rival (like the Warroad loses)

I totally get the Brainerd argument, Just don't see the Roseau as 4 and STMA at 5 at all. (BUT I DONT GET A VOTE )

Not that it matters, but just to be accurate, Roseau split with Warroad.

crw · Post by **crw** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:15 am

TTpuckster wrote:
crw wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:I think not playing Brainerd likely hurt STMA quite a bit.
STMA lost by 3 to Bemidji, lost by 2 to Moorhead, tied Roseau and tied then beat Buffalo by 2. With results from the rest of the section, I could see a win over Brainerd shooting them up to the 3 seed. But without playing the game they're up to how things shake out with the rest of the section. And Brainerd actually did much better than them. I could understand STMA ahead of Roseau, but Roseau has a win over Brainerd that STMA doesn't...
Section Record
STMA 2-2-2 (14-6-2)
Roseau 1-5-1 (10-12-2)
Tied only head to head game... (I would agree that Roseau played tougher section games, but you need to win them.. no such thing as a quality loss.. a loss is a loss)

Roseau did lose 3-5 to Bemidji while STMA lost 2-5... but lets not forget the 0-5 loss to Bemidji that Roseau also had.

Roseau doesnt have a quality win against a top rated team.. best wins are Brainerd, Cloquet (sub .500 team) and Duluth Marshal (Sub .500 team) also got swept by Warroad (sub par A team)

STMA has quality wins versus top rated teams in the state - Duluth East and Breck.. also a bad loss to St. Francis. the tie early with Buffalo isn't a great thing but it wasn't a loss vs arch rival (like the Warroad loses)

I totally get the Brainerd argument, Just don't see the Roseau as 4 and STMA at 5 at all. (BUT I DONT GET A VOTE )
Not that it matters, but just to be accurate, Roseau split with Warroad.

yep sorry about that, i corrected my previous post

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:42 am

crw wrote: Section Record
STMA 2-2-2 (14-6-2)
Roseau 1-5-1 (10-12-2)
Tied only head to head game... (I would agree that Roseau played tougher section games, but you need to win them.. no such thing as a quality loss.. a loss is a loss)

Roseau did lose 3-5 to Bemidji while STMA lost 2-5... but lets not forget the 0-5 loss to Bemidji that Roseau also had.

Roseau doesnt have a quality win against a top rated team.. best wins are Brainerd, Cloquet (sub .500 team) and Duluth Marshal (Sub .500 team) also split with Warroad (sub par A team)

STMA has quality wins versus top rated teams in the state - Duluth East and Breck.. also a bad loss to St. Francis. the tie early with Buffalo isn't a great thing but it wasn't a loss vs arch rival (like the Warroad lose)

I totally get the Brainerd argument, Just don't see the Roseau as 4 and STMA at 5 at all. (BUT I DONT GET A VOTE )

I don't necessarily disagree with you, which is why I say it's so important that STMA didn't play Brainerd. So, while Roseau only has 1 section win, that win is over Brainerd.

This isn't my opinion, just a justification I could make for things panning out this way. Assuming this isn't official, not sure why it's even posted here, I hope it's STMA, Brainerd, and Roseau in 3-4-5 spots respectively.

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:23 am

Lee or Karl. Should probably make this a sticky.

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:54 am

Well this thread was derailed. So much for a "seeding" thread. It's an 8AA banter thread.

hermantown2000 · Post by **hermantown2000** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:55 am

Does section 7A have a points system or do the coaches choose the rankings? Obviously nothing will be announced until Friday at the least.

SPUDNUT · Post by **SPUDNUT** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:44 am

My_Kid_Loves_Hockey wrote:I hear that 8AA is done, e-mail method.

Bemidji
Moorhead
Brainerd
Roseau
STMA
Rogers or Buffalo is 6/7

Like to know where ya heard that - they're always done by e-mail, but never before their scheduled date - Feb 10 !

crw · Post by **crw** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:31 am

8AA is done

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showxmlbrack ... acket=6988

Mite-dad · Post by **Mite-dad** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:42 am

6A is done also:
1 Apollo
2 Cathedral
3 Sartell
4 Little Falls
5 Fergus Falls
6 St. Cloud Tech
7 Alexandria
8 River Lakes
9 Wadena
10 Breckenridge/Wahpeton
11 Prairie Center

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:33 pm

For Sats:

Unofficial 1AA seedings

1) Lakeville North - Overall body of work

2) Lakeville South - Lost to North twice and beat Farmington twice

3) Farmington - Beat North twice but also got smoked in other games

4-9) Rest of the field

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