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RRubberbeeskit
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MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
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Re: MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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RRubberbeeskit wrote:I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
Simple economics here..supply and demand..why tell someone what to do with their money? If someone is willing to pay $50 a ticket to watch two high school hockey games, it is worth exactly that. If you want to pay face value, wait in line on game day, get on the season ticket waiting list, or don't buy a ticket from a scalper for more than face value. The only reason scalper prices get so high is because the demand is there. If it's not, the price will drop.

Shouldn't you be able to sell something you own for a price you determine, rather than be told what you can sell it for?
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Post by Bonin2121 »

Scalpers are the worst. I will never sell to them, and I've said it before but if a young kid or a dad/son are talking to a scalper, I'll listen and let him think he's getting a sale, then sell them our extra club tickets for face or less.
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Re: MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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RRubberbeeskit wrote:I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
I like the idea of being able to walk up to the front door of the X and buy a good ticket without standing in line for an hour.
Its worth it to me.
Now 30 - 40 years ago standing in line was what I could afford.
Then I had tickets for quite a few years which was nice but life circumstances changed and made that option not as effective.

So, keep the scalpers is my vote.
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Post by nahc »

Yep, keep the scalpers..... or watch on TV.... its not like you would not be able to watch the game live...... works for me sometimes!!
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Nothing wrong with buying for a buck and selling for two. I know a lot of the brokers in the TC and have bught Wild suite and Vikings 50 yard line tickets. Paid $40/ticket for LL Center Ice in 06/07 when Rapids was there. Worth every cent!!
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I have season tickets, I pay for the consolation rounds that I will not go to. To make up for that, I have no bad feelings about selling the pair for sessions that I don't go to for about $50 or $60, depending on the teams involved.

I still feel like everyone is getting a good deal. $25 or 30/ticket for two games ($12.50 or 15 each). Still pretty affordable for the buyer (you may go to a Gopher game for that, but you ain't going to a Wild game) & I make a little bit back for the consolation rounds.

Since 2010, I've put the sessions I don't go to online; every single time, I've sold them within 30 minutes. Like poster above said, it's supply & demand, but at the same time, I feel like I'm still being fair.
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Re: MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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RRubberbeeskit wrote:I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
I fully agree with you. In theory, what you say is absolutely right. Reality on the other hand, is the above mentioned things: supply & demand, economics, capitalism, politics, etc. Let's face it, morality has never been America's strong suit.

What are scalper value of state tickets? From what I remember, they were asking in the range of $85 last year. Pretty outrageous, and I don't know what high school kids can afford that. Though perhaps my memory is diluted, a strong possibility.
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Re: MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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GopherPuck15 wrote:
RRubberbeeskit wrote:I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
Simple economics here..supply and demand..why tell someone what to do with their money? If someone is willing to pay $50 a ticket to watch two high school hockey games, it is worth exactly that. If you want to pay face value, wait in line on game day, get on the season ticket waiting list, or don't buy a ticket from a scalper for more than face value. The only reason scalper prices get so high is because the demand is there. If it's not, the price will drop
Shouldn't you be able to sell something you own for a price you determine, rather than be told what you can sell it for?
Gopherpuck15: I have no issue with scalping but I do when it pertains to High School events. That's it.
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RRubberbeeskit wrote:Gopherpuck15: I have no issue with scalping but I do when it pertains to High School events. That's it.
Have to disagree. Besides it being legal, nobody is forced to sell to them or buy from them. All voluntary decisions - don't pay more for a ticket than it's worth to you, just like anything else you buy. And if you're a seller, don't ask more than what someone's willing to pay, or it won't sell. "Scalpers" are nothing more than middlemen, like stockbrokers, real estate agents, auction houses, etc., who facilitate the selling and buying of tickets. Just because they're doing it at a high school event doesn't make the function they serve any different.
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Post by Ogie »

As a frequent customer of scalpers, to go with being a relentless seat scavenger, I like dealing with the street corner marketeers...I most often relieve them of single tickets they were likely to eat, usually at a bargain price.

I'll also sometimes wait until the game starts, in order to get the best price possible.

One thing I never expect is that I'm going to get a pair or more of great seats at face or less....C'est la guerre.
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Re: MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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RRubberbeeskit wrote:
GopherPuck15 wrote:
RRubberbeeskit wrote:I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
Simple economics here..supply and demand..why tell someone what to do with their money? If someone is willing to pay $50 a ticket to watch two high school hockey games, it is worth exactly that. If you want to pay face value, wait in line on game day, get on the season ticket waiting list, or don't buy a ticket from a scalper for more than face value. The only reason scalper prices get so high is because the demand is there. If it's not, the price will drop
Shouldn't you be able to sell something you own for a price you determine, rather than be told what you can sell it for?
Gopherpuck15: I have no issue with scalping but I do when it pertains to High School events. That's it.
It is simple supply and demand. The demand (for ticket) equals the price struck for the high school AA hockey event.
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4 ticket sets lower level

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Where is the best and safest place to sell 4 sets lower level
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Post by RRubberbeeskit »

Doc Holliday wrote:I have season tickets, I pay for the consolation rounds that I will not go to. To make up for that, I have no bad feelings about selling the pair for sessions that I don't go to for about $50 or $60, depending on the teams involved.

I still feel like everyone is getting a good deal. $25 or 30/ticket for two games ($12.50 or 15 each). Still pretty affordable for the buyer (you may go to a Gopher game for that, but you ain't going to a Wild game) & I make a little bit back for the consolation rounds.

Since 2010, I've put the sessions I don't go to online; every single time, I've sold them within 30 minutes. Like poster above said, it's supply & demand, but at the same time, I feel like I'm still being fair.
Thanks to all for your replies. Your response was 100% in favor of scalping And I can reason with the points you all have made. Thanks again!
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Post by Gov78 »

RRubberbeeskit wrote:
Doc Holliday wrote:I have season tickets, I pay for the consolation rounds that I will not go to. To make up for that, I have no bad feelings about selling the pair for sessions that I don't go to for about $50 or $60, depending on the teams involved.

I still feel like everyone is getting a good deal. $25 or 30/ticket for two games ($12.50 or 15 each). Still pretty affordable for the buyer (you may go to a Gopher game for that, but you ain't going to a Wild game) & I make a little bit back for the consolation rounds.

Since 2010, I've put the sessions I don't go to online; every single time, I've sold them within 30 minutes. Like poster above said, it's supply & demand, but at the same time, I feel like I'm still being fair.
Thanks to all for your replies. Your response was 100% in favor of scalping And I can reason with the points you all have made. Thanks again!
Been going to the tournament for over 40 years and have never bought or sold a ticket for more than face value. If I have championship round tickets I can't use I sell for face or give away if need be. I always give away my consolation to kids from losing schools as they are knocked out of winner's bracket.

If you really need an extra $10 or $20 bucks go ahead and scalp your tickets but to me some things just aren't right. Lot of talk on this forum regarding tradition and sportsmanship but when the rubber hits the road and you get a chance to extract some additional cash out of another HS Fan all that feel good stuff goes out the window.
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Post by bstarr15 »

I have had lower level season tickets to the x since 2009. I have always sold any that I cant use to a dad and son at face value after seeing them reject the scalpers.
I think it's wrong that these guys have a ton of tickets in their hands.

My question is how do these people get their hands on so many tickets.
It just amazes me. 20+ guys with 50 tickets in hand.

Sure it's a risk especially if Edina loses and doesn't make the championship game but still come on these are HS games
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Post by MNHockeyFan »

bstarr15 wrote:My question is how do these people get their hands on so many tickets. It just amazes me. 20+ guys with 50 tickets in hand.
The answer is many fans are only interested in seeing their school team play. Since they're not going to any other game they come to a rational decision: better to get $5 or $10 for them than nothing. The scalpers snap them up for cheap and then try to sell them for a little more.
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Post by Bayside Tigers »

MNHockeyFan wrote:...for a little more.
Right. No one knows what average scalper value is? I have proposed $80-$85. That's what I recall, and I don't recall it fluctuating as much as I'd have thought for different sessions. Does anybody remember anything different?
Gov78 wrote:Been going to the tournament for over 40 years and have never bought or sold a ticket for more than face value. If I have championship round tickets I can't use I sell for face or give away if need be. I always give away my consolation to kids from losing schools as they are knocked out of winner's bracket.

If you really need an extra $10 or $20 bucks go ahead and scalp your tickets but to me some things just aren't right. Lot of talk on this forum regarding tradition and sportsmanship but when the rubber hits the road and you get a chance to extract some additional cash out of another HS Fan all that feel good stuff goes out the window.
Agree. This is what I'm talking about. At least for this event, we are not talking about a Justin Beeber concert here.
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Re: MSHSL Ticket Scalping

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RRubberbeeskit wrote:I am curious as to what people's opinions are on ticket scalpers profiting on MSHSL events and specifically the Boys State AA Hockey tournament.
I personally feel as though capitalizing on events involving high school students is not right. The ticket price should be face value so that it is always affordable to anyone that may be want to attend. Many parents would like to bring children to a great event like this but with ticket scalping these tickets have become unreasonable for the average family.
Unfortunately this is just supply and demand. The MSHSL sells these packages for below market value, which is great for those who gets tickets. But there are people out there without tickets who are willing to pay lots of money to get tickets, thus leading to tickets changing hands on the secondary market.
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Doc Holliday wrote:I have season tickets, I pay for the consolation rounds that I will not go to. To make up for that, I have no bad feelings about selling the pair for sessions that I don't go to for about $50 or $60, depending on the teams involved.

I still feel like everyone is getting a good deal. $25 or 30/ticket for two games ($12.50 or 15 each). Still pretty affordable for the buyer (you may go to a Gopher game for that, but you ain't going to a Wild game) & I make a little bit back for the consolation rounds.

Since 2010, I've put the sessions I don't go to online; every single time, I've sold them within 30 minutes. Like poster above said, it's supply & demand, but at the same time, I feel like I'm still being fair.
Where have you sold them online? This is my first year with season tickets and unfortunately can only make it Thursday and Friday. I currently have mine listed on stub hub and am by far the cheapest, but they have been on there a couple of days now. Also listed them under the tickets for sale section of this forum. Any other places you recommend?
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wisconsinprephockey wrote:Where have you sold them online? This is my first year with season tickets and unfortunately can only make it Thursday and Friday. I currently have mine listed on stub hub and am by far the cheapest, but they have been on there a couple of days now. Also listed them under the tickets for sale section of this forum. Any other places you recommend?
I've sold them on GopherPuckLive.com in the tickets section, but only at face value there.

I may have posted some for sale on the tickets site here once or twice.

Only other place I've sold them is on CraigsList & have had good luck. But if you're in Wisconsin, it's hard to meet up.

Otherwise, I'll just put them on Facebook & sell them to friends at face or a little below.

If you're out of state, StubHub is probably your best bet, but honestly, I've never even considered it since it's relatively easy to sell them the other ways that I have.

Good Luck!
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Post by Joe2015 »

wisconsinprephockey wrote:
Doc Holliday wrote:I have season tickets, I pay for the consolation rounds that I will not go to. To make up for that, I have no bad feelings about selling the pair for sessions that I don't go to for about $50 or $60, depending on the teams involved.

I still feel like everyone is getting a good deal. $25 or 30/ticket for two games ($12.50 or 15 each). Still pretty affordable for the buyer (you may go to a Gopher game for that, but you ain't going to a Wild game) & I make a little bit back for the consolation rounds.

Since 2010, I've put the sessions I don't go to online; every single time, I've sold them within 30 minutes. Like poster above said, it's supply & demand, but at the same time, I feel like I'm still being fair.
Where have you sold them online? This is my first year with season tickets and unfortunately can only make it Thursday and Friday. I currently have mine listed on stub hub and am by far the cheapest, but they have been on there a couple of days now. Also listed them under the tickets for sale section of this forum. Any other places you recommend?
How long of a wait was it before you were able to get season tickets?
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Post by wisconsinprephockey »

pretty much 2 years exactly on the waiting list
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