Smallest Assoc. in the STATE

zooomx · Post by **zooomx** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:12 pm

blainestate2020 wrote:
zooomx wrote:In Alexandria we had 34 Bantams, 34 Pee Wees and around 40 or so Squirts. We ran A and B at Pee Wee and Bantams and A, B1, B2 at Squirts. Pee Wee A and Bantam A made state tourney, Pee Wee B just missed going to state.
Zooomx - your info on the pee wee B team is way off. They were 2 and barbeque at regions... District 15 is weak at that level. We out shot the # 1 seed by 35!!!! And crushed your squad worse. So "just missed state" is the preposterous statement of the day.

Hmmm... Little Falls is a District 15 B team. How did they do in your regional again? Didn't they win the Region Tournament in Blaine?

Johnsonpres · Post by **Johnsonpres** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:04 pm

I watched the district 8 "A" Squirt playoffs and We could play with one team the others would beat us bad with our two lines. We are to good for "B" and not good enough for "A" so the solution is to make the squirts the same as the rest of Minnesota Hockey (AA, A, B and "C"). We would have been "A", problem solved.

Johnsonpres · Post by **Johnsonpres** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:03 pm

We played Inver Grove Heights "B" Squirt team for the championship in District 8 and the score ended up 6 to 2 Johnson Como but the score was 3 to 2 with 1:58 left in the game. This just solidifies that we are just a above average "B" team and not a definte "A" team.

50cent · Post by **50cent** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:08 pm

Johnsonpres wrote:We played Inver Grove Heights "B" Squirt team for the championship in District 8 and the score ended up 6 to 2 Johnson Como but the score was 3 to 2 with 1:58 left in the game. This just solidifies that we are just a above average "B" team and not a definte "A" team.

Thanks for the update. I think you were missing 2 of your top players.

Johnsonpres · Post by **Johnsonpres** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:54 pm

Where did they go?

After 40games and just two lines I think we got wore down at the end.

barry_mcconnell · Post by **barry_mcconnell** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:17 am

Johnsonpres wrote:I watched the district 8 "A" Squirt playoffs and We could play with one team the others would beat us bad with our two lines. We are to good for "B" and not good enough for "A" so the solution is to make the squirts the same as the rest of Minnesota Hockey (AA, A, B and "C"). We would have been "A", problem solved.

What in the world? Squirts skate 12min periods. Having two lines is a huge advantage! You would have been a near .500 A team.

I used to be a fan of JC with huge respect. After reading your stream of nonsense comments I've changed my view. I hope you drop all your teams down to C and go 65-0 and win the national championship.

saintpaul1001 · Post by **saintpaul1001** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:59 am

barry_mcconnell wrote:
Johnsonpres wrote:I watched the district 8 "A" Squirt playoffs and We could play with one team the others would beat us bad with our two lines. We are to good for "B" and not good enough for "A" so the solution is to make the squirts the same as the rest of Minnesota Hockey (AA, A, B and "C"). We would have been "A", problem solved.
What in the world? Squirts skate 12min periods. Having two lines is a huge advantage! You would have been a near .500 A team.

I used to be a fan of JC with huge respect. After reading your stream of nonsense comments I've changed my view. I hope you drop all your teams down to C and go 65-0 and win the national championship.

Barry,

This person does not represent johnson como association. Yes this team was placed incorrectly, should have been two b teams, one c at squirts. Not sure why he can't admit this mistake. Not a big deal. One of those type of guys who likes to hear himself talk...

This is the only group that was placed incorrectly with jcha this year. All other teams played in levels that produced consistently competetive games.

Generally speaking, it seems a lot harder to place teams in smaller organizations due to big differences in skill. In these small organizations a lot of times a few a players will have to play b or c players will have to play b, depending on the year.

Btw, I am a parent and not an official representative of the organizaion either.

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:36 am

Johnsonpres wrote:Does any organization have less players than us.

16 total Bantams ( "B" team)
29 Pee Wee's ("B" team and "C" team
35 Squirts (1 "B" team 12 total players, 2 "C" teams with 11 & 12).

80 Total Boys.

We have girls but they all choose to play girls hockey.

Don't feel sorry for us but don't bash us for not playing "A".

LUVERNE HOCKEY (Just for Comparison)

BA - 16 players
PWA - 11 players
PWB - 10 players
SQA - 11 players
SQB - 12 players
12U - 15 players (Tossed in a Girls team, just to make you feel better)

75 Total. "Players" because Boys and Girls are placed at their competitive level... NOT their Age or Gender.

Not "Bashing", but before you go searching for sympathy... Keep in mind "A" Hockey has died in the SW corner. All of the Luverne A Teams have to drive to District 5 to "Find" games, which means 2.5 to 3.5 hour ONE WAY trips just for the chance to play A Hockey against Associations normally 3-5 times larger. NO pouting here, and not looking for sympathy in any way, but the next time YOU go searching... consider that these teams that have chosen to play A, will most likely have more miles on in two weekends of Hockey than you will ALL SEASON LONG.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:57 am

Luverne has got some great folks involved down there. I hope they continue to enjoy success !!!

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:46 pm

saintpaul1001 wrote:
barry_mcconnell wrote:
Johnsonpres wrote:I watched the district 8 "A" Squirt playoffs and We could play with one team the others would beat us bad with our two lines. We are to good for "B" and not good enough for "A" so the solution is to make the squirts the same as the rest of Minnesota Hockey (AA, A, B and "C"). We would have been "A", problem solved.
What in the world? Squirts skate 12min periods. Having two lines is a huge advantage! You would have been a near .500 A team.

I used to be a fan of JC with huge respect. After reading your stream of nonsense comments I've changed my view. I hope you drop all your teams down to C and go 65-0 and win the national championship.
Barry,

This person does not represent johnson como association. Yes this team was placed incorrectly, should have been two b teams, one c at squirts. Not sure why he can't admit this mistake. Not a big deal. One of those type of guys who likes to hear himself talk...

This is the only group that was placed incorrectly with jcha this year. All other teams played in levels that produced consistently competetive games.

Generally speaking, it seems a lot harder to place teams in smaller organizations due to big differences in skill. In these small organizations a lot of times a few a players will have to play b or c players will have to play b, depending on the year.

Btw, I am a parent and not an official representative of the organizaion either.

So you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express?

iseepalms · Post by **iseepalms** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:43 pm

I seen this Como Johnson team play and yes they have one good line but you go from there and they aren't very skilled and there goalie is bad but no one could get to him. I also seen both of ther "C" Squirt teams and they ened up in the middle of the "C" league here in District 8. Sounds like a parent whose son or dughter didn't make the "B" team and are bitter. Saintpaul1001 from the remarks made maybe it's time to either coach or get on the Como Johnson board and straighten them out. Didn't the "B" Bantam team go to the state tournament this year maybe they should have been "A" so they mis judged two teams.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:39 pm

iseepalms wrote:I seen this Como Johnson team play and yes they have one good line but you go from there and they aren't very skilled and there goalie is bad but no one could get to him. I also seen both of ther "C" Squirt teams and they ened up in the middle of the "C" league here in District 8. Sounds like a parent whose son or dughter didn't make the "B" team and are bitter. Saintpaul1001 from the remarks made maybe it's time to either coach or get on the Como Johnson board and straighten them out. Didn't the "B" Bantam team go to the state tournament this year maybe they should have been "A" so they mis judged two teams.

The guy was a bright one. "All the other teams were at the right level".. His kid's C team was mid range and it sounds like the other one was too. "Proper levels" but wanted two B teams?

The guy contradicted himself every other sentence.

Just chalk it up to being hard to know before the season starts... It's tough with small associations and playing a city A schedule is much different than playing a small town schedule.

Why not keep one trophy from a mega association?

InigoMontoya · Post by **InigoMontoya** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:07 am

Where did all the kids go between peewees and bantams?

Johnsonpres · Post by **Johnsonpres** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:12 am

We loose like many associations bantams that are eligible to go to high school and play JV or Varsity. (Johnson, Cretin, St. Thomas and Como)

InigoMontoya · Post by **InigoMontoya** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:32 am

I realize it's a catch 22, but wouldn't most kids want to play bantam A rather than JV, if you had an A team?

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:22 am

Take a look at North Branch and Pine City. Both had A teams from smaller towns. NB had a real nice group @ squirts. I know PC has struggled but I have heard the kids are getting better. Time will tell. Is it better to go 30-0 as a squirt, or better in bantams/highschool. I have my opinion, but no right or wrong snswer.

Johnsonpres · Post by **Johnsonpres** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:15 am

Old goalie85,
Time will tell. Is it better to go 30-0 as a squirt, or better in bantams/highschool. I have my opinion, but no right or wrong snswer. I don't know that answer but I know our players really did get a lot better this year and we practiced and had scrimmages outside with some of the better teams in the state which included Osseo Maple Grove Gold, Prior Lake Gold, White Bear, Wayzata Blue and Hudson so our players were pushed and hopefully in the future we can field some "A" teams.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:26 pm

North Branch

11 Bantams (B-1 team)
13 Peewees (B-1 team) Ranked in the top 20 for a while
25 Squirts (A and C team) A team top 10 for a couple weeks.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:46 pm

This is one OG don't have the know...

SCBlueLiner · Post by **SCBlueLiner** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:05 pm

Smallest association? Worthington? Fairmont? Windom? Austin? I'm picking on the southwest but the point is there are some small ones out there. Compared to some of these JC is a titan. Any more?

Johnsonpres · Post by **Johnsonpres** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:35 am

It was just a question and people have blown this out of purportion. It read does anyone have a smaller organization than us? I just wanted to know is that all bad. Witch hunting season is over, glad we can turn to baseball.

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