#2Hermantown (22-4-2) vs Luverne (27-0-1) 11am

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Post by O-townClown »

fastncrash wrote:
FIRST youth Hockey team in Luverne was 1977.
Thanks for that, Crash. I can only imagine how many years it takes to build something.

When I read about the "red helmet kid" on the Youth forum a few years ago, I consulted a map and saw where Luverne was. My assumption was that he was playing his youth hockey to the west in South Dakota where there is a USHL team. 30-40 miles perhaps? My son began playing 41 miles from our house, so it wasn't far-fetched.

I was totally wrong. There's actually a rink in Luverne, the youth hockey association has a nice website, and the red helmet kid isn't their only good player.

Can't wait to get my first glimpse of the Big Sex'ay. I've heard he looked great is some summer all-star festivals.
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Post by karl(east) »

HShockeywatcher wrote:Has anyone seen both Hermantown and Luverne play? If so, that would be helpful.

By PageStat, they are the 18th Class A team right now. I doubt many actually expect a win, but stranger things have happened. I don't doubt they'll score a couple goals, but on paper my biggest concern is defense. It's hard to judge with their schedule as they have 25 games of allowing 2 or fewer goals, but they weren't winning in the same fashion West was.
I suppose I have. I watched the stream of Luverne's game against Kennedy in the Schwan Cup, and got a handful of looks at Hermantown this year, most recently in the 7A final. It's not a huge sample, but it's something.

PS2 has them about 4 goals apart, which seems about right to me. But we all know games aren't played on paper...if Luverne gives up a few early and gets down, it could easily be running time; if they hang in there, who knows.

I agree about defense being the biggest concern for Luverne. They have some talent back there, but they simply haven't seen anything like Hermantown's offensive depth and relentless forecheck.

I alluded to this earlier, but I think the Luverne coaches face a dilemma. I doubt this team has played many games in which they try to sit back and defend, but if they try to skate with Hermantown, they could easily get shredded (unless they really are a lot better than we think they are). But do you try to put a new gameplan into place at this point in the season to try to slow up the Hawks? I don't envy their position.

I think if Luverne's top players were juniors and seniors, they could skate with Hermantown, but they rely an awful lot on some very young players.
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Post by pekyman »

In 2010-2011 Moose Lake Area had a good team with 2 forwards that had gaudy numbers.
Leading the league I think.
Hermantown met them in the quarters the talk was about the same as it is with Luverne now.
Herm won 11-1.
Hopefully, Luverne can do better than that.
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Post by HappyHockeyFan »

ShaymusOToole wrote:
hockeymannorth wrote:
NLHockey wrote:I want to see BobSaget in a pink tutu.....really, I do.

("I'll wear a pink tutu to Luverne's game on Friday if they beat Hermantown....BobSaget).

And at 6'2" 245 I think that I'll be pretty noticeable so please...give it to me"....BobSaget.

I just have a hard time seeing that happen. Looking at the Hub, the Cards have not played a team like the Hawks this season. Their signature win is Bloomington Kennedy. Will be interesting to see how they handle a team that can score points on them like they have been doing to less than stellar teams all season long. I've been skeptical of Htown all season long, but this would be an upset of epic proportions.

But I guess that's why they play the game.
Hermantowns only AA win was C-E-C 5 to 2 is that there signature win?
Hermantown has defeated four of the single A tournament entrants this year, as well as highly ranked A school Duluth Marshall twice, so those could be considered "signature wins" as far as class A goes

I think everyone outside of Hermantown is cheering for Luverne. Would be nice to see a 3A team have some success
Go Hermantown Hawks !! :lol:
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Post by pekyman »

HappyHockeyFan wrote:
ShaymusOToole wrote:
hockeymannorth wrote:Hermantowns only AA win was C-E-C 5 to 2 is that there signature win?
Hermantown has defeated four of the single A tournament entrants this year, as well as highly ranked A school Duluth Marshall twice, so those could be considered "signature wins" as far as class A goes

I think everyone outside of Hermantown is cheering for Luverne. Would be nice to see a 3A team have some success
Go Hermantown Hawks !! :lol:
Not everyone!
Good luck to the Cats!
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Post by Air Force 1 »

ShaymusOToole wrote: I think everyone outside of Hermantown is cheering for Luverne. Would be nice to see a 3A team have some success
Ah...I don't think so. I hope Hermantown wins, big. I would say that MOST outside of Section 3A are hoping Hermantown shows the Luverne peanut gallery and Section 3A what the top of Class A is about. The cupcakes are gonna catch up to the Cardinals.
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Post by MNHockeyFan »

I haven't followed the 3A teams this year, but do folks in SW Minnesota believe that this year's Luverne squad is probably the best to ever represent the section? I only ask because if they aren't the best ever they wouldn't seem to have much of a chance of beating the tournament's No. 1 seed.

P.S. Even if they do lose to Hermantown I hope it's a competitive game and they move on to do well in the Consolation round. A good showing would be good for the game in that part of the State.
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Post by northwoods oldtimer »

pekyman wrote:
HappyHockeyFan wrote:
ShaymusOToole wrote: Hermantown has defeated four of the single A tournament entrants this year, as well as highly ranked A school Duluth Marshall twice, so those could be considered "signature wins" as far as class A goes

I think everyone outside of Hermantown is cheering for Luverne. Would be nice to see a 3A team have some success
Go Hermantown Hawks !! :lol:
Not everyone!
Good luck to the Cats!
GO Luverne!!
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

pekyman wrote:In 2010-2011 Moose Lake Area had a good team with 2 forwards that had gaudy numbers.
Leading the league I think.
Hermantown met them in the quarters the talk was about the same as it is with Luverne now.
Herm won 11-1.
Hopefully, Luverne can do better than that.
I hope you aren't honestly trying to compare the 12-14 Moose Lake team of two years ago to the 27-0-1 Luverne team of this year... :-k
The discussion at the time was how the two top forwards would do against Hermantown, not if the team would win. Most don't think this team will probably win, but little is known about them. I know the transative property doesn't work, but Luverne beat Kennedy by the same score as Orono and Orono lost to Hermantown by a goal and beat Breck.
Anything's possible.

With only 2 of their 7 players who have 30+ points being seniors, karl is right about experience, but we will most likely be seeing this team again.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

HShockeywatcher wrote:
With only 2 of their 7 players who have 30+ points being seniors, karl is right about experience, but we will most likely be seeing this team again.
There is a reason people are calling Luverne "Roseau South."

There is a dynasty brewing down there. \:D/ \:D/
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Post by 12thgraders »

notTONIGHT wrote: There is a reason people are calling Luverne "Roseau South."

There is a dynasty brewing down there. \:D/ \:D/
Roseau South? Seriously?! Luverne is making their FIRST trip to state, FIRST! Roseau is making their 34th and have 7 banners hanging in the Memorial! You have to win a few before you are considered any sort of dynasty.

What is Luverne's signature win this season? 2-1 over Achiever? 2-1 Shootout win (tie) over STMA in the Schwan Cup, or the 3-1 win over Kennedy also in the Schwan Cup? One section championship does not make a dynasty.
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Post by Marty »

It would be healthy for Minnesota hockey for a team out of this section to win a quarter final game.
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Post by mnmouth »

Marty wrote:It would be healthy for Minnesota hockey for a team out of this section to win a quarter final game.
Would be good for Luverne to win a State game for starters, even if it's in the consolation round, maybe even play for the consolation title. Then upgrade the schedule, if possible, next season. Progress that trickles down to the youth level.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

12thgraders wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote: There is a reason people are calling Luverne "Roseau South."

There is a dynasty brewing down there. \:D/ \:D/
Roseau South? Seriously?! Luverne is making their FIRST trip to state, FIRST! Roseau is making their 34th and have 7 banners hanging in the Memorial! You have to win a few before you are considered any sort of dynasty.

What is Luverne's signature win this season? 2-1 over Achiever? 2-1 Shootout win (tie) over STMA in the Schwan Cup, or the 3-1 win over Kennedy also in the Schwan Cup? One section championship does not make a dynasty.
Do Water, Yeast, Malt, and hops make beer? YES THEY DO ME BOY!!
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Post by Scout14 »

notTONIGHT wrote:
12thgraders wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote: There is a reason people are calling Luverne "Roseau South."

There is a dynasty brewing down there. \:D/ \:D/
Roseau South? Seriously?! Luverne is making their FIRST trip to state, FIRST! Roseau is making their 34th and have 7 banners hanging in the Memorial! You have to win a few before you are considered any sort of dynasty.

What is Luverne's signature win this season? 2-1 over Achiever? 2-1 Shootout win (tie) over STMA in the Schwan Cup, or the 3-1 win over Kennedy also in the Schwan Cup? One section championship does not make a dynasty.
Do Water, Yeast, Malt, and hops make beer? YES THEY DO ME BOY!!
There might not be enough BEER in St. Paul boys when the CARDS roll one up on the hawks....

ROLL CARDS ROLL!!!
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Post by StanleyYelnats »

""Luverne comes in there with an attitude of "bow to the king" like that and they will be on running time fast. The teams that beat them come in knowing they are better than them and keep the intimidation factor to a minimum. Otherwise it's over in the 1st period and the Hawks can spend the rest of the game playing D. It will be a Luverne victory if they can keep it within 1or2 in the first period. The WILL to win is part of the Hawks winning formula. As much as I would like to see an underdog win, Hawks will rock them back on their heels in the first and win this one easily. If Denfeld and DM couldn't get it done, doubtful that the Cards will. Hopefully EGF gets past pesky Orono so we can see one good game this tournament.[/quote]"


Well said, New Ulm the past few years came in with the "lets see who you really are" attitude against STA. We alll know how that turned out. Marshall came in with the "Yeah, you're #2 for a reason, let us enjoy our trip" turned out somewhat of a game with Breck not running up the score. Luverne comes in with somewhat of the same attitude as Marshall( I hope).. We all know any top 3 teams can control and team in the South. Looking forward to Luverne showing some talent. Best of luck to everyone! Tourney time a few days away.
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Post by StanleyYelnats »

And I forgot to add. Roseau South.?? Let's pretend that was never posted. A real dynasty is 7 Banners and some in AA. Luverne, reality check. THIS IS 3A BOYS! :lol:
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Post by defense »

Air Force 1 wrote:
ShaymusOToole wrote: I think everyone outside of Hermantown is cheering for Luverne. Would be nice to see a 3A team have some success
Ah...I don't think so. I hope Hermantown wins, big. I would say that MOST outside of Section 3A are hoping Hermantown shows the Luverne peanut gallery and Section 3A what the top of Class A is about. The cupcakes are gonna catch up to the Cardinals.
kinda doubt its " most" people.
and I really wouldn't think of anything better for the class A tournament than to have Luverne pull it off, as unlikely as it is.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

I think people love to hate Luverne because some of us dont take this board like its a religious venue. Sometimes having a little fun is good for the group.

And I know Luverne doesnt have any banners to hang......yet :lol:
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Post by notTONIGHT »

Scout14 wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
12thgraders wrote: Roseau South? Seriously?! Luverne is making their FIRST trip to state, FIRST! Roseau is making their 34th and have 7 banners hanging in the Memorial! You have to win a few before you are considered any sort of dynasty.

What is Luverne's signature win this season? 2-1 over Achiever? 2-1 Shootout win (tie) over STMA in the Schwan Cup, or the 3-1 win over Kennedy also in the Schwan Cup? One section championship does not make a dynasty.
Do Water, Yeast, Malt, and hops make beer? YES THEY DO ME BOY!!
There might not be enough BEER in St. Paul boys when the CARDS roll one up on the hawks....

ROLL CARDS ROLL!!!
St. Paul might need a restock from the red state just east if the CARDS pull this thing off wednesday.

ROLL CARDS ROLL
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Post by defense »

Personally I think its awesome to have people from around there posting so much on here. It shows that there is some excitement for hockey in places other than Lesser MN and up north.
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Post by hawkenjonny »

Well whether Luverne can do anything with Hermantown or not, nice season and enjoy this experience. I am guessing the Luverne faithful on this forum are trying to boost confidence as they SHOULDN"T go into Wednesday in awe of H-town but should realize they will have to work together and make the most of any opportunities they get to score. I am a northern school person from a town that is always in contention for a section title but I sure am sick of all these people saying Luverne has never seen a decent team. Come on people there are decent teams all over outside the metro and section 7. Win/lose/or blowout, can we just recognize a program moving in the right direction that undeniably has some talent. Anyone notice the nice end to their younger squads? In it until the end. Good luck Luverne. Hang tough.
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Post by elliott70 »

hawkenjonny wrote:Well whether Luverne can do anything with Hermantown or not, nice season and enjoy this experience. I am guessing the Luverne faithful on this forum are trying to boost confidence as they SHOULDN"T go into Wednesday in awe of H-town but should realize they will have to work together and make the most of any opportunities they get to score. I am a northern school person from a town that is always in contention for a section title but I sure am sick of all these people saying Luverne has never seen a decent team. Come on people there are decent teams all over outside the metro and section 7. Win/lose/or blowout, can we just recognize a program moving in the right direction that undeniably has some talent. Anyone notice the nice end to their younger squads? In it until the end. Good luck Luverne. Hang tough.


Now a little north-east arrogance.
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Post by MrGoalieBoy »

StanleyYelnats wrote:And I forgot to add. Roseau South.?? Let's pretend that was never posted. A real dynasty is 7 Banners and some in AA. Luverne, reality check. THIS IS 3A BOYS! :lol:
Very well said. I follow southern MN hockey and for 3A, Luverne is far ahead of everyone else IMO.
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Post by TheInsider »

notTONIGHT wrote:I think people love to hate Luverne because some of us dont take this board like its a religious venue. Sometimes having a little fun is good for the group.

And I know Luverne doesnt have any banners to hang......yet :lol:
Oh man...
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