Section 3A (2013-2014)

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:44 am

[quote="fastncrash"][quote="Bleed Maroon and Gold"]Section 3A Scout you should just really come out and say that you are a Hutch fan and have a kid on the team. Because you for sure are not a scout of hockey. You are just like the Luverne fans which actually have a reason to be bragging about how good their team is. [color=red]I would pay money to see you an nottonight in a boxing ring now that would be a fun match up to watch[/color].[/quote]

:shock: Uhhhh...FYI, notTONIGHT is one of the reasons why BigFoot refuses to come out of hiding. THAT would not be pretty.[/quote]

Would shut up the trout then

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:57 am

Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote:
fastncrash wrote:
Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote:Section 3A Scout you should just really come out and say that you are a Hutch fan and have a kid on the team. Because you for sure are not a scout of hockey. You are just like the Luverne fans which actually have a reason to be bragging about how good their team is. I would pay money to see you an nottonight in a boxing ring now that would be a fun match up to watch.
Uhhhh...FYI, notTONIGHT is one of the reasons why BigFoot refuses to come out of hiding. THAT would not be pretty.
Would shut up the trout then

Yeah, but I don't even hate 3A Spaghetti Trout THAT much.

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:04 am

[quote="fastncrash"][quote="Bleed Maroon and Gold"][quote="fastncrash"][quote="Bleed Maroon and Gold"]Section 3A Scout you should just really come out and say that you are a Hutch fan and have a kid on the team. Because you for sure are not a scout of hockey. You are just like the Luverne fans which actually have a reason to be bragging about how good their team is. [color=red]I would pay money to see you an nottonight in a boxing ring now that would be a fun match up to watch[/color].[/quote]

:shock: Uhhhh...FYI, notTONIGHT is one of the reasons why BigFoot refuses to come out of hiding. THAT would not be pretty.[/quote]

Would shut up the trout then[/quote]

Yeah, but I don't even hate 3A Spaghetti Trout THAT much. :wink:[/quote]

What I really wanna know is what makes him so qualified to be a scout. But of course he will not answer that.

Deck Slide · Post by **Deck Slide** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:15 am

Thegoldenjet wrote:Or Luverne is better than Delano, pry the case IMO having not seen Delano but very up to date with Luverne, Luverne faithful, I'll use this opportunity to say you misinterpreted me last time, I was not putting you head to head with EGF, I was implying great hockey exists without begging credit for it, it's just how it is. I know how it is, I'm an alumni that wants to see my boys flourish, but if you kids could shut up for a second you might find your boys can talk with or without you. 3A thread is reality tv, insecure, self concious but not self aware.

I have scene Delano play 3 times this year and i have scene Luverne twice.. Delano is a better hockey club. Deeper and more talented at every position. Luverne would be middle of the pack in the Wright County. As for Hutch. It looks like they got good goaltending the last two games of the season and have a little momentum now going into playoffs. I still think Willmar is lurking.. And New Ulm seems like they have improved since the begining of the season.

On a side noteThe Wright County Conference is and will be a very good conference in the next couple of years!! Take a peek at the Bantam A level this year and ther rankings.

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:18 am

Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote:
fastncrash wrote:
Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote: Would shut up the trout then
Yeah, but I don't even hate 3A Spaghetti Trout THAT much.
What I really wanna know is what makes him so qualified to be a scout. But of course he will not answer that.

I ASSURE you, Nobody outside of "Trouts mind" uses that name and "Scout" in the same sentence. BUT, it's all fun. AND sometimes informational. Just need to brush-up on the FACTUAL parts.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:02 am

Okay Scout, correct me if I'm wrong. Look at Luverne's team and Hutch's. Luverne has two of the best defenseman in the section EASILY in #10 and Sengvongxay. Luverne EASILY has the best top two lines in the section with the best goalie in the section. I have not seen Hutchinson play, but please please don't tell me Hutchinson is more talented than Luverne....

Deck Slide · Post by **Deck Slide** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:16 am

MrGoalieBoy wrote:Okay Scout, correct me if I'm wrong. Look at Luverne's team and Hutch's. Luverne has two of the best defenseman in the section EASILY in #10 and Sengvongxay. Luverne EASILY has the best top two lines in the section with the best goalie in the section. I have not seen Hutchinson play, but please please don't tell me Hutchinson is more talented than Luverne....

How can you say Luverne is more talented at any position when you have NOT scene Hutch play.

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:56 am

Deck Slide wrote:
MrGoalieBoy wrote:Okay Scout, correct me if I'm wrong. Look at Luverne's team and Hutch's. Luverne has two of the best defenseman in the section EASILY in #10 and Sengvongxay. Luverne EASILY has the best top two lines in the section with the best goalie in the section. I have not seen Hutchinson play, but please please don't tell me Hutchinson is more talented than Luverne....
How can you say Luverne is more talented at any position when you have NOT scene Hutch play.

Wow... Seriously? Here's a hint. OTHER than the 10-12-1 record being listed... I don't see too many OTHER references...?

http://follow-the-puck-class-a.blogspot.com/

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:02 pm

Deck Slide wrote:
MrGoalieBoy wrote:Okay Scout, correct me if I'm wrong. Look at Luverne's team and Hutch's. Luverne has two of the best defenseman in the section EASILY in #10 and Sengvongxay. Luverne EASILY has the best top two lines in the section with the best goalie in the section. I have not seen Hutchinson play, but please please don't tell me Hutchinson is more talented than Luverne....
How can you say Luverne is more talented at any position when you have NOT scene Hutch play.

I don't really need to see Hutch's goalie to say Luverne's goalie is better than him....

it's pretty easily to tell Luverne's team is all around more talented. They just whooped Hutch, forwards overpowered Hutch's defense, and hutch couldn't score. Just my opinion.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:06 pm

Deck Slide wrote:
MrGoalieBoy wrote:Okay Scout, correct me if I'm wrong. Look at Luverne's team and Hutch's. Luverne has two of the best defenseman in the section EASILY in #10 and Sengvongxay. Luverne EASILY has the best top two lines in the section with the best goalie in the section. I have not seen Hutchinson play, but please please don't tell me Hutchinson is more talented than Luverne....
How can you say Luverne is more talented at any position when you have NOT scene Hutch play.

And for your information, I never said Hutch's forward or defense was worse than Luverne's, I said Luverne has the most explosive top two lines in the section, and two top defenseman in the section, if anyone disagrees with that, please tell me.

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:36 pm

Talent is a pretty hard thing to define. Luverne sure seems to have two line that score a ton of points (particularly if you look at the breakdown of 170ish goals and about 15 from line3

). They also do not allow many goals so seemingly good team defense and solid between the pipes. To play devil's advocate, STYLE of play is a huge factor with even talented teams. Luverne has the reputation, deserved or not (Herb?) for having some trouble with physical play that slows things down and takes their flashy forwards out? I know they can score, but seem to like to work low which against a physical team gets tougher. Thoughts from the Luverne people in the know?

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:22 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:Talent is a pretty hard thing to define. Luverne sure seems to have two line that score a ton of points (particularly if you look at the breakdown of 170ish goals and about 15 from line3 ). They also do not allow many goals so seemingly good team defense and solid between the pipes. To play devil's advocate, STYLE of play is a huge factor with even talented teams. Luverne has the reputation, deserved or not (Herb?) for having some trouble with physical play that slows things down and takes their flashy forwards out? I know they can score, but seem to like to work low which against a physical team gets tougher. Thoughts from the Luverne people in the know?

Yes, As i already said Luverne sucks. Team sucks, forwards suck. Defense suck. Goalie sucks.

Wont win the section. Wont even be in the section final.

What i can also tell you is Willmar targeted a Luverne forward, and was succesful in keeping him off the score sheet.
Final score Luverne 4 Willmar 0

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:27 pm

I really just wanted thoughts from anyone who knows the team better than I do. Didn't need the sarcastic list of what won't happen. Thought some discussion on styles of play and how they match up in 3A was relevant. Obviously it isn't about just 'talent' whatever that means. That's the shoulda, woulda, coulda defense. If Willmar had a game plan to shut down a scorer and it worked wouldn't that be something other teams are noticing as well? Sorry to have offended you with my attempt at valid discussion. For what it's worth, asking a question does not imply that Luverne won't win. The better prepared team often comes out of the section. If they, with their offensive power and tough D core/goalie are ready, they should win. Why so quick to get snarky? Unrealized dreams of your own?

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:43 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:I really just wanted thoughts from anyone who knows the team better than I do. Didn't need the sarcastic list of what won't happen. Thought some discussion on styles of play and how they match up in 3A was relevant. Obviously it isn't about just 'talent' whatever that means. That's the shoulda, woulda, coulda defense. If Willmar had a game plan to shut down a scorer and it worked wouldn't that be something other teams are noticing as well? Sorry to have offended you with my attempt at valid discussion. For what it's worth, asking a question does not imply that Luverne won't win. The better prepared team often comes out of the section. If they, with their offensive power and tough D core/goalie are ready, they should win. Why so quick to get snarky? Unrealized dreams of your own?

It really didnt work for Willmar. There were chances given up because of their obsession with stopping the forward. This caused them to leave other players open. The balance of the top two lines is what helps Luverne. Cant really eliminate one player, or even a line and expect success. In fact, when Luverne plays willmar, as a Luverne fan, I would hope they go all out to stop him again.

Section 3A HockeyScout · Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:48 pm

notTONIGHT wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:I really just wanted thoughts from anyone who knows the team better than I do. Didn't need the sarcastic list of what won't happen. Thought some discussion on styles of play and how they match up in 3A was relevant. Obviously it isn't about just 'talent' whatever that means. That's the shoulda, woulda, coulda defense. If Willmar had a game plan to shut down a scorer and it worked wouldn't that be something other teams are noticing as well? Sorry to have offended you with my attempt at valid discussion. For what it's worth, asking a question does not imply that Luverne won't win. The better prepared team often comes out of the section. If they, with their offensive power and tough D core/goalie are ready, they should win. Why so quick to get snarky? Unrealized dreams of your own?
It really didnt work for Willmar. There were chances given up because of their obsession with stopping the forward. This caused them to leave other players open. The balance of the top two lines is what helps Luverne. Cant really eliminate one player, or even a line and expect success. In fact, when Luverne plays willmar, as a Luverne fan, I would hope they go all out to stop him again.

No need to worry about playing Willmar again. I would hope that the Cards are focused on Hutch.

Not parent just have gotten to watch all the teams this year. Hutch has great depth and can play a physical game. Now that Allen the Senior is locked in the nets. Tigers are going to be very hard to beat for any 3A Program.

Luverne beat Willmar and Hutch but both played their BACK-UP Goalies... Just curious how no one else seems to think that is a big deal when thinking about matchup a week from now.

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:57 pm

Looking at the stats from that Willmar game it looks like in one period Luverne was outshot badly and then made some adjustments perhaps. I agree keying on ONE player in a lineup with quite a few scorers may not work. Was under the impression that whole line was shut down. Could be wrong. So is the reputation for struggling with more physical play accurate or not? Just wondering if other 3A teams have tools they plan to use to shut down Luverne, and if so what Luverne has to prepare for to win. How did Marshall upset them last year? Was it just a hot goalie?

timcorbin21 · Post by **timcorbin21** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:47 pm

Luverne upset themselves last year. they made really bad decisions taking shots. marshalls team played defense. and the Luvene goalie was horrible. He's grown into quite the goalie this year

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:17 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:Looking at the stats from that Willmar game it looks like in one period Luverne was outshot badly and then made some adjustments perhaps. I agree keying on ONE player in a lineup with quite a few scorers may not work. Was under the impression that whole line was shut down. Could be wrong. So is the reputation for struggling with more physical play accurate or not? Just wondering if other 3A teams have tools they plan to use to shut down Luverne, and if so what Luverne has to prepare for to win. How did Marshall upset them last year? Was it just a hot goalie?

I dont play the game, or have anything to do with the game. So Trout, i can say whatever I want. Your guilt trips do nothing to me.

Its hard to say, Hutch had a reputation of being very physical, and gritty. Their renowned physicality had no effect slowing Luverne down. STMA was physical and fast, and that was the lowest scoring output Luverne had this season. So, i guess you could say it worked. We can find out this weekend if Providence can be physical.
If I was a 3A team, and I was playing against luverne Id preach keeping them to the perimeter, and hope for good goalie play. Luverne has a handful of kids that can absolutely bury an odd man rush, so eliminating turnovers would be crucial. But thats all pretty basic hockey stuff. No magic formula.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:40 pm

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:I really just wanted thoughts from anyone who knows the team better than I do. Didn't need the sarcastic list of what won't happen. Thought some discussion on styles of play and how they match up in 3A was relevant. Obviously it isn't about just 'talent' whatever that means. That's the shoulda, woulda, coulda defense. If Willmar had a game plan to shut down a scorer and it worked wouldn't that be something other teams are noticing as well? Sorry to have offended you with my attempt at valid discussion. For what it's worth, asking a question does not imply that Luverne won't win. The better prepared team often comes out of the section. If they, with their offensive power and tough D core/goalie are ready, they should win. Why so quick to get snarky? Unrealized dreams of your own?
It really didnt work for Willmar. There were chances given up because of their obsession with stopping the forward. This caused them to leave other players open. The balance of the top two lines is what helps Luverne. Cant really eliminate one player, or even a line and expect success. In fact, when Luverne plays willmar, as a Luverne fan, I would hope they go all out to stop him again.
No need to worry about playing Willmar again. I would hope that the Cards are focused on Hutch.

Not parent just have gotten to watch all the teams this year. Hutch has great depth and can play a physical game. Now that Allen the Senior is locked in the nets. Tigers are going to be very hard to beat for any 3A Program.

Luverne beat Willmar and Hutch but both played their BACK-UP Goalies... Just curious how no one else seems to think that is a big deal when thinking about matchup a week from now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, was Allen the goalie who gave up 5 goals on 17 shots against New Ulm?... Hutch better hope he is consistent or else they won't last. Not sure if he played or not against New Ulm, I wasn't there.

Section 3A HockeyScout · Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:00 pm

Seeds?

Last couple years always announced on Wednesday?

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:17 pm

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Seeds?

Last couple years always announced on Wednesday?

That's what I thought too, hmm.

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:53 pm

Sounds like Saturday for seed announcement boys.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:52 pm

notTONIGHT wrote:Sounds like Saturday for seed announcement boys.

Did the coaches already meet? Or?

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:08 pm

MrGoalieBoy wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:Sounds like Saturday for seed announcement boys.
Did the coaches already meet? Or?

From my understanding, there is no in person meeting. They send in their seedings, and compile them.

One of the coaches made an error on their ballot. This is causing a delay.

Thats all i know.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:22 am

notTONIGHT wrote:
MrGoalieBoy wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:Sounds like Saturday for seed announcement boys.
Did the coaches already meet? Or?
From my understanding, there is no in person meeting. They send in their seedings, and compile them.

One of the coaches made an error on their ballot. This is causing a delay.

Thats all i know.

Oh I wasn't aware of this, thank you!