Section 7AA 2013-2014?

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:22 pm

sanryam wrote:Elk River 4
Anoka 1
FINAL

Gordie's last minute complete juggling of the 2nd line has worked the last two games (Anoka/Centennial). Probably still doesn't make up for Zerban, but at least gets some speed and some offense back on the particular line.

Who played on the second line tonight?

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:23 pm

sanryam wrote:Elk River 4
Anoka 1
FINAL

Gordie's last minute complete juggling of the 2nd line has worked the last two games (Anoka/Centennial). Probably still doesn't make up for Zerban, but at least gets some speed and some offense back on the particular line.

Well east wins against tonka 4-2 and ER beats Anoka 4-1..... It was the last games before the discussion tomorrow..... Nothing changes really for the seeding for those two. Id say it's 50-50 who gets the number one seed.

sanryam · Post by **sanryam** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:58 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
sanryam wrote:Elk River 4
Anoka 1
FINAL

Gordie's last minute complete juggling of the 2nd line has worked the last two games (Anoka/Centennial). Probably still doesn't make up for Zerban, but at least gets some speed and some offense back on the particular line.
Who played on the second line tonight?

Bouten/Jones/Dwyer on F, Kiersted/Perbix on D is the group I'm talking about.

It's crazy that Jones is the only original 2nd liner in that group (not counting Bouten was moved from D to F.)

sanryam · Post by **sanryam** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:00 am

Slammer wrote:
sanryam wrote:Elk River 4
Anoka 1
FINAL

Gordie's last minute complete juggling of the 2nd line has worked the last two games (Anoka/Centennial). Probably still doesn't make up for Zerban, but at least gets some speed and some offense back on the particular line.
Well east wins against tonka 4-2 and ER beats Anoka 4-1..... It was the last games before the discussion tomorrow..... Nothing changes really for the seeding for those two. Id say it's 50-50 who gets the number one seed.

I'd agree with that. Any worries of Andover or Rapids sneaking into 1 or 2 dissipated after tonight.

HockeyStorm · Post by **HockeyStorm** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:34 am

1. ER
2. DE
3. Andover
4-5 toss up between GR and FL

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:54 am

HockeyStorm wrote:1. ER
2. DE
3. Andover
4-5 toss up between GR and FL

4/5 will be a good place for GR.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:45 am

greenway1969 wrote:Rapids is not that tough to figure out. They are an average AA team. It appears their win over Hermantown is the exception not the rule. Hermantown did not look that good tonight against Superior, a 2-2 tie. Luckily they are in a section that doesn't seem to have a top tier team. Both East and Elk River have struggled lately. At this point the 7AA rep at state will not be a factor. Rapids appears to be heading toward an early exit at Sections.

I would agree to that greenway1969. Sounded like they had their full roster of players last night and at one point I believe they were being out shot 32 to 18 according to the radio guy. Denfeld is no slouch team from the sounds of it and will be dangerous team in 7A but you are correct Rapids is an average AA team. With the shaky defensive game it could be a quarterfinal loss this season.

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:04 am

Section has been very unpredictable this year. Here is my last attempt at seeding.

1. Elk River
2. Duluth East
3. Forest Lake (best wins: White Bear and a tie, Cretin DH and a tie, Andover. The loss to Rapids might keep them from a #3 seed. They also lost big to East and Elk River. Their quality wins and ties are just as good as Andover)
4. Andover (best wins: Maple Grove 2, Elk River, and Centennial)
5. Rapids - too many losses to Single A teams.
6. St. Michael-Albertville
7. Cloquet - never thought I'd see Cloquet this low.
8. St. Francis
9. Cambridge

The only uncertainty I have is the #3 and #4. I still believe head-to-head should be the deciding factor when everything else looks about the same. Rapids still might get #4 based on their past reputation and wins over Elk River and Forest Lake. But based on current play I don't think they deserve a higher seed.

grandindian · Post by **grandindian** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:40 am

northwoods oldtimer wrote:
greenway1969 wrote:Rapids is not that tough to figure out. They are an average AA team. It appears their win over Hermantown is the exception not the rule. Hermantown did not look that good tonight against Superior, a 2-2 tie. Luckily they are in a section that doesn't seem to have a top tier team. Both East and Elk River have struggled lately. At this point the 7AA rep at state will not be a factor. Rapids appears to be heading toward an early exit at Sections.
I would agree to that greenway1969. Sounded like they had their full roster of players last night and at one point I believe they were being out shot 32 to 18 according to the radio guy. Denfeld is no slouch team from the sounds of it and will be dangerous team in 7A but you are correct Rapids is an average AA team. With the shaky defensive game it could be a quarterfinal loss this season.

I agree with all the remarks above based on what I have seen. Question for you and yup, I played alot of hockey in my past....what is it that makes a team so consistently give up so many shots on goal? Grand Rapids has done that all season long. Is it inability to advance the puck out of the defensive zone? Is it failure to sustain a forecheck? Or is its just getting beat to loose pucks and getting outworked? Rapids better figure out some answers or they are going to have an early end to their playoffs. Curious what others think.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:53 am

grandindian wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
greenway1969 wrote:Rapids is not that tough to figure out. They are an average AA team. It appears their win over Hermantown is the exception not the rule. Hermantown did not look that good tonight against Superior, a 2-2 tie. Luckily they are in a section that doesn't seem to have a top tier team. Both East and Elk River have struggled lately. At this point the 7AA rep at state will not be a factor. Rapids appears to be heading toward an early exit at Sections.
I would agree to that greenway1969. Sounded like they had their full roster of players last night and at one point I believe they were being out shot 32 to 18 according to the radio guy. Denfeld is no slouch team from the sounds of it and will be dangerous team in 7A but you are correct Rapids is an average AA team. With the shaky defensive game it could be a quarterfinal loss this season.
I agree with all the remarks above based on what I have seen. Question for you and yup, I played alot of hockey in my past....what is it that makes a team so consistently give up so many shots on goal? Grand Rapids has done that all season long. Is it inability to advance the puck out of the defensive zone? Is it failure to sustain a forecheck? Or is its just getting beat to loose pucks and getting outworked? Rapids better figure out some answers or they are going to have an early end to their playoffs. Curious what others think.

Their inconsistency has a lot to do with their youth, especially at D. They were giving up a lot of shots early in the year too and started out 10-3. I think for their young D they just don't seem to always make the best decisions. The Hermantown game it sounded like they made good first passes in their own zone plus they charged the net hard and the D were taking low shots from the point which they weren't doing well during their 3 game losing stretch. Part of the reason they lost to Denfeld was they didn't play to the end, were up 3-2 with 20 seconds left. Not sure what to think of this team. I wonder if they were looking past Denfeld to the quarterfinals, wouldn't surprise me given their youth. It will be a learning lesson for them that you can't lose a game like this right before the section meeting. Even John Rothstein said on the radio during 2nd intermission his squad will play a great game and come back the next night and wonder what happened to them. Anything can happen in sections, could go out next Tuesday or be in the section finals. Back in 07 Rapids tied Hibbing and Denfeld and lost to Marshall their last 3 regular season games and went to the state title game.

HockeyStorm · Post by **HockeyStorm** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:06 am

What time is the seeding meeting today? When do we expect to see the brackets posted?

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:08 am

[quote="HockeyStorm"]What time is the seeding meeting today? When do we expect to see the brackets posted?

its at 6pm and will probably be done by 7-730 and guessing one of the teams twitter accounts/follow the puck will have them online right away

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:17 am

It was about 7:00 last year. Section 7A should be around 11 AM - Noon. Section 8AA around 1:00. Just an fyi.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:39 am

Grand Rapids has locked themselves into the #5 seed with the four bad losses in the last seven games.

1. Duluth East
1. Elk River
3. Forest Lake
3. Andover
5. Grand Rapids
6. Cloquet

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:01 am

FLake beat Andover in OT earlier, does that put them ahead in seedlings? Nice win over WBL last night. Andover May have peaked, close game with Anoka and were dominated by Blaine.

Houndhockey · Post by **Houndhockey** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:09 am

MrBoDangles wrote:Grand Rapids has locked themselves into the #5 seed with the four bad losses in the last seven games.

1. Duluth East
1. Elk River
3. Forest Lake
3. Andover
5. Grand Rapids
6. Cloquet

Not sure I would put FLAKE at #3, even with a good win over WBL last night. However, it was great timing for them as it will be fresh in the minds of the coaches. I just don't think they play anybody outside of 7AA besides WBL and CDH twice each. I wouldn't bat an eye at it though if they did receive the #3 seed with their h2h win over Andover. Honestly, this has been the hardest year in memory to figure out the seeds leading up to the meeting. Generally there is a very clear picture of where teams will be. This year it could be any number of combinations for seeds #1-#7. The banter has been classic, and will be missed until next year!

offtheglas · Post by **offtheglas** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:01 am

With what happened last night and FL getting a nice win I still don't think things change much. You will see tonight when the seedings come out it will end up like this.

1. ER
2. DE
3. Andover
4. GR
5. FL
6. STMA
7. Cloq
8. CI

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:32 pm

grandindian wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
greenway1969 wrote:Rapids is not that tough to figure out. They are an average AA team. It appears their win over Hermantown is the exception not the rule. Hermantown did not look that good tonight against Superior, a 2-2 tie. Luckily they are in a section that doesn't seem to have a top tier team. Both East and Elk River have struggled lately. At this point the 7AA rep at state will not be a factor. Rapids appears to be heading toward an early exit at Sections.
I would agree to that greenway1969. Sounded like they had their full roster of players last night and at one point I believe they were being out shot 32 to 18 according to the radio guy. Denfeld is no slouch team from the sounds of it and will be dangerous team in 7A but you are correct Rapids is an average AA team. With the shaky defensive game it could be a quarterfinal loss this season.
I agree with all the remarks above based on what I have seen. Question for you and yup, I played alot of hockey in my past....what is it that makes a team so consistently give up so many shots on goal? Grand Rapids has done that all season long. Is it inability to advance the puck out of the defensive zone? Is it failure to sustain a forecheck? Or is its just getting beat to loose pucks and getting outworked? Rapids better figure out some answers or they are going to have an early end to their playoffs. Curious what others think.

I would say youth and inexperience, size and lack of hitting the weight room are the combining factors. A lot of that comes with age. Cannot recall Rapids having to go with such a young and inexperienced group as they have this season, ever. They seem to always have 3 senior D (minimum) to rely on with 2-3 Juniors. I think the toughest transition (and biggest amateur jump) for any defense-man is from bantam to high school. Expect to see better results next season. Glad they have Shepard this season.

Elks
East
Andover
Rapids
F-lake
Cloquet
STMA
CI

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:06 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:It was about 7:00 last year. Section 7A should be around 11 AM - Noon. Section 8AA around 1:00. Just an fyi.

This is official folks...

East
Elk River
Andover
Grand Rapids
Forest Lake
St. Michael Albertville
CEC
St. Francis
Cambridge-Isanti

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:25 pm

Disgusting that East got the one seed. I feel bad for Elk River fans.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:28 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:Disgusting that East got the one seed. I feel bad for Elk River fans.

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:29 pm

kniven wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:Disgusting that East got the one seed. I feel bad for Elk River fans.
Especially now that Elk River needs to play Cloquet in the first game. It is now setup for an East vs. Cloquet/GR final.

East will play GR in semis if both win

ShootNScore88 · Post by **ShootNScore88** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:29 pm

1 or 2, doesn't really make much difference. Plan is to meet each other in the Championship game at Amsoil. Not playing for home ice advantage. Last change not a big deal.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:36 pm

kniven wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:Disgusting that East got the one seed. I feel bad for Elk River fans.
Especially now that Elk River needs to play Cloquet in the first game. It is now setup for an East vs. Cloquet/GR final.

Not so fast kniven. Forest Lake will be more than a handful. I do believe the Elks have something to prove as well. I am picking Elks at X in 2014.
Think they are the "above the rest" in a very wide open 7AA section. oldgoalie - DJ rants.....priceless!

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:38 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:Disgusting that East got the one seed. I feel bad for Elk River fans.

Home Ice
Homer Refs
.....you get the picture!!