AA-A Hockey- who are the cheaters going to be this year?

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:50 pm

betterupnorth wrote:
ERPWA Hockey wrote:Two embarrassments out of D10 this year, Andover and Rogers are not playing Bantam AA they are playing Bantam A.

C’mon Andover and Rogers seriously you are going to play down?

D10 should not allow this but they will. This has turned into something other than what it was intended to do.
And andover's top team was completely dominated by hermantown's second best. Teams like that would get destroyed at the AA level. Not saying it's right just that I can see why they did it

Great point, and Hermantown is in a down year. They haven't looked very good. Can't see them doing much this year.

betterupnorth · Post by **betterupnorth** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:55 pm

Froggy Richards wrote:
betterupnorth wrote:
ERPWA Hockey wrote:Two embarrassments out of D10 this year, Andover and Rogers are not playing Bantam AA they are playing Bantam A.

C’mon Andover and Rogers seriously you are going to play down?

D10 should not allow this but they will. This has turned into something other than what it was intended to do.
And andover's top team was completely dominated by hermantown's second best. Teams like that would get destroyed at the AA level. Not saying it's right just that I can see why they did it
Great point, and Hermantown is in a down year. They haven't looked very good. Can't see them doing much this year.

Hermantown A is 4-1, with a team that looks pretty good to me. I would say that their AA is having a down year, but their A is a lot better than last year

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:07 pm

betterupnorth wrote:Frankly I'm surprised Denfeld, Moose Lake and Proctor had the stones to even field an A team this year, instead of just a B team.

I Would agree on Moose Lake, but Denfeld has some skilled players. And not sure how many Proctor kids moved up to Bantams but their Pewee A team went to State last year. They dominated Hermantown and that was a good Hermantown Pewee A team last year.

betterupnorth · Post by **betterupnorth** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:07 am

Denfeld has skill, but they're getting beaten by 5, 6, 7 goals every game. And as for Proctor, they started out as A last year at Bantams, but after Hermantown A outshot them 70-4 in their home tourney they petitioned to play down. Hermantown, North Shore and East are the teams that can compete with all teams at the A level of you ask me.

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:56 am

betterupnorth wrote:Denfeld has skill, but they're getting beaten by 5, 6, 7 goals every game. And as for Proctor, they started out as A last year at Bantams, but after Hermantown A outshot them 70-4 in their home tourney they petitioned to play down. Hermantown, North Shore and East are the teams that can compete with all teams at the A level of you ask me.

Yes, Proctor Bantams were really down last year. I saw them play in Duluth. They've lost some top players to Hermantown over the years. But their Pewee A team was very strong and they have some good young talent. If they stick together and stay in Proctor they should have a good program within the next couple of years.

betterupnorth · Post by **betterupnorth** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:50 am

Well, we'll see on Tuesday, won't we?

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:58 am

betterupnorth wrote:Well, we'll see on Tuesday, won't we?

See what? I said next few years, not days.....

And isn't Hermantown 4 times the size of Proctor? You probably should be a little better than them.

betterupnorth · Post by **betterupnorth** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:06 am

Froggy Richards wrote:
betterupnorth wrote:Well, we'll see on Tuesday, won't we?
See what? I said next few years, not days.....

And isn't Hermantown 4 times the size of Proctor? You probably should be a little better than them.

You would hope proctors top team could handle hermantown's sexond though...

BluehawkHockey · Post by **BluehawkHockey** » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:39 am

Biggest sandbagger in the state this year has to be Minneapolis Storm. Carrying 5 teams at Bantam with top team playing Bantam A. Even worse, top peewee team playing Peewee A. Carrying 8 teams at Peewee level. They should be embarrassed.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:40 am

BluehawkHockey wrote:Biggest sandbagger in the state this year has to be Minneapolis Storm. Carrying 5 teams at Bantam with top team playing Bantam A. Even worse, top peewee team playing Peewee A. Carrying 8 teams at Peewee level. They should be embarrassed.

But beating the odds by having to live in the hood next to 50th and France.

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:47 am

BluehawkHockey wrote:Biggest sandbagger in the state this year has to be Minneapolis Storm. Carrying 5 teams at Bantam with top team playing Bantam A. Even worse, top peewee team playing Peewee A. Carrying 8 teams at Peewee level. They should be embarrassed.

Right up there is Irondale/St.Francis. Two years ago they had a solid PeeWee AA team that played around .750 hockey. This year at Bantam A level they will cake walk 80% of their games.

Stripes2011 · Post by **Stripes2011** » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:53 am

all these listed as sandbaggers: is it better to have a winning record at a level below or a possible losing record with a record above. how about the teams that went AA that know way should be at that level? I'm sure there are plenty of teams that made that mistake as well? should they be addrsssed here as well?

with that Irondale team, I seem to remeber a couple years ago they had 1 possibly 2 kids that were on the high end of skill level amongst A PW players that year. I believe BOTH are no longer skating in that association and have made the Jump to a private high school system. 2 players on an A-PW team can make all the difference.

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:29 am

[quote="ThePuckStopsHere"][quote="BluehawkHockey"]Biggest sandbagger in the state this year has to be Minneapolis Storm. Carrying 5 teams at Bantam with top team playing Bantam A. Even worse, top peewee team playing Peewee A. Carrying 8 teams at Peewee level. They should be embarrassed.[/quote]

Right up there is Irondale/St.Francis. Two years ago they had a solid PeeWee AA team that played around .750 hockey. This year at Bantam A level they will cake walk 80% of their games. :oops:[/quote]

2 years ago Irondale and St Francis were not a co-op. Irondale had 3 stud players on that team. All 3 are now at a private school and not playing on this team. They have lost another to St Michael/Albertville AA Bantam team. They just played MAML and lost 4-2 and played St Michael/Alberville and lost 9-0. So if you call that sandbagging good for you. I am thinking will we finish 2nd or 3rd in D10 at the A level this season. Get your facts straight before speaking.

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:25 pm

Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote:
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:
BluehawkHockey wrote:Biggest sandbagger in the state this year has to be Minneapolis Storm. Carrying 5 teams at Bantam with top team playing Bantam A. Even worse, top peewee team playing Peewee A. Carrying 8 teams at Peewee level. They should be embarrassed.
Right up there is Irondale/St.Francis. Two years ago they had a solid PeeWee AA team that played around .750 hockey. This year at Bantam A level they will cake walk 80% of their games.
2 years ago Irondale and St Francis were not a co-op. Irondale had 3 stud players on that team. All 3 are now at a private school and not playing on this team. They have lost another to St Michael/Albertville AA Bantam team. They just played MAML and lost 4-2 and played St Michael/Alberville and lost 9-0. So if you call that sandbagging good for you. I am thinking will we finish 2nd or 3rd in D10 at the A level this season. Get your facts straight before speaking.

So what you are saying is you lost 3 players but added an entire association from two years ago and you just got spanked by STMA AA? Sounds like time for a new coach

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:32 pm

[quote="ThePuckStopsHere"][quote="Bleed Maroon and Gold"][quote="ThePuckStopsHere"][quote="BluehawkHockey"]Biggest sandbagger in the state this year has to be Minneapolis Storm. Carrying 5 teams at Bantam with top team playing Bantam A. Even worse, top peewee team playing Peewee A. Carrying 8 teams at Peewee level. They should be embarrassed.[/quote]

Right up there is Irondale/St.Francis. Two years ago they had a solid PeeWee AA team that played around .750 hockey. This year at Bantam A level they will cake walk 80% of their games. :oops:[/quote]

2 years ago Irondale and St Francis were not a co-op. Irondale had 3 stud players on that team. All 3 are now at a private school and not playing on this team. They have lost another to St Michael/Albertville AA Bantam team. They just played MAML and lost 4-2 and played St Michael/Alberville and lost 9-0. So if you call that sandbagging good for you. I am thinking will we finish 2nd or 3rd in D10 at the A level this season. Get your facts straight before speaking.[/quote]

So what you are saying is you lost 3 players but added an entire association from two years ago and you just got spanked by STMA AA? Sounds like time for a new coach :P[/quote]

I have no ties with this team just stating the facts which you can not do. But sure if you wanna blame it on the coach go for it. Maybe they are playing at the correct level and you just can't handle that.