Mite-dad wrote:So you don't understand how non-football kids that are practicing 3 wks before tryouts while the football kids hardly at all won't disadvantage the football kids? Plus why should I pay for ice-time my kid can't use? Not only do I not agree with the advantage non-football kids have, but I have to subsidize it too!
Yes, I get it, it's called you have a choice. Three weeks leading up to tryouts my Bantam skated over 30 hours, he only made 3 of 7 session offered by the assocation. It was his choice and my checkbook that decided to have him do the "other" skates. Just as you decided to go to FB. There were many kids that did attend the assoc sessions to prepare for tryouts. Our assoc has offered that at all the levels since my kids started playing hockey. Sorry it conflicts with your FB, or a trip to G'ma's on Sunday, or a back yard BBQ on one of the remaining decent days before it turns cold out... That does not mean it shouldn't be offered, or that other's shouldn't be skating somewhere else just because your son want's to play FB. Go back to mites where everyone get's a trophy and no score is kept because little Johnny's team just might not be as good as the next. Disadvantaged, yeah right... Sounds like an excuse in the making!
It's truly a sad state of affairs that you have to run your kid into the ground just to keep him at a high state of readiness for hockey tryouts. I feel sorry for you and people like you. Seriously. I hope your son isn't burnt out by the time his high school career is over. And I hope he maintains his health through the rigors of the program you've set him up with. Good luck.
I've been on the sideline of this blog for some time now, and while it's been close, I have not been irritated to the point of actually contributing. I figured there would eventually be comments absurd enough to spur me to action. Congratulations Mite-Dad!
Interestingly, I think we are similar in that my kids play a variety of sports as do yours. I know that my kids (at this age) would be better hockey players if they focused solely on hockey. But we have made choices. Other families have also made choices for their kids. While I do not agree with their choices for my family, I have no problem with their choices for their families. This association you are denigrating is absolutely correct in providing a pre-season camp for those that make it a priority. Don't worry about advantages! Don't be so angry!
JSR wrote:Youth sports organizations battling eachother and forcing kids to "chose" at such young ages is a dick move on both. I do think the "in season" sport should be given SOME amount of leeway and precedent but anymore what is "in season"....
On the other issue, if an association is offering OPTIONAL additional ice time for skaters who CHOOSE to participate, that is not a dick move, in fact I applaud the association for trying to get people more for their money if they CHOOSE to participate, if you do not that is fine but don't cry because others choose to do so....
I think its bullcrap that I'm paying for ice-time that my kid can't use. Let me sign my kid up for a reduced price then.
So please let us know what will qualify for reduced pricing? My kid has a band concert that will make hm miss a practice, and he also has soccer practice so he misses some of those preseason practices as well, oh and we've got some family obligations, oh and don't forget deer hunting... Can I get prorated pricing if I can itemize all the days my boy will miss..... ....The season is the season the price is the price.... Don't like it, run for a board position make the changes you would like to see.... Or start your own association and fly it under the AAU banner.... otherwise my suggestion would be to stop whining and embrace the fact your association offers these wonderful additional optional skates to try and give you more for your money........
Mite-dad wrote:So you don't understand how non-football kids that are practicing 3 wks before tryouts while the football kids hardly at all won't disadvantage the football kids? Plus why should I pay for ice-time my kid can't use? Not only do I not agree with the advantage non-football kids have, but I have to subsidize it too!
Yes, I get it, it's called you have a choice. Three weeks leading up to tryouts my Bantam skated over 30 hours, he only made 3 of 7 session offered by the assocation. It was his choice and my checkbook that decided to have him do the "other" skates. Just as you decided to go to FB. There were many kids that did attend the assoc sessions to prepare for tryouts. Our assoc has offered that at all the levels since my kids started playing hockey. Sorry it conflicts with your FB, or a trip to G'ma's on Sunday, or a back yard BBQ on one of the remaining decent days before it turns cold out... That does not mean it shouldn't be offered, or that other's shouldn't be skating somewhere else just because your son want's to play FB. Go back to mites where everyone get's a trophy and no score is kept because little Johnny's team just might not be as good as the next. Disadvantaged, yeah right... Sounds like an excuse in the making!
It's truly a sad state of affairs that you have to run your kid into the ground just to keep him at a high state of readiness for hockey tryouts. I feel sorry for you and people like you. Seriously. I hope your son isn't burnt out by the time his high school career is over. And I hope he maintains his health through the rigors of the program you've set him up with. Good luck.
I feel sorry for people like you that think everyone owes you something and you have no clue... Clearly you also don't know how to read.. As it was my son's choice and my checkbook... As stated above... Yes he choose to participate in the HP14's. Yes, it was 100% his choice to skate with his assoc friends at a clinic put on by the High School coach. Guess what MR KNOW IT ALL... I told him it would be a lot and his response was yeah, but I will be ready for tryouts.... He is doing just fine. His Bantam AA coaches are putting the team thru much more difficult work outs then he had leading up to tryouts... Get a clue... My guess is you think it would be considered torture to have them run the stairs at the pit...if you had any clue what that meant! LOL (I will give you a hint, it's called conditioning) Oh and, guess what. Go outside of MN and teams start a lot earlier then they do here... many tier 1 teams have over 10 games in already...
Mite-dad wrote:So you don't understand how non-football kids that are practicing 3 wks before tryouts while the football kids hardly at all won't disadvantage the football kids? Plus why should I pay for ice-time my kid can't use? Not only do I not agree with the advantage non-football kids have, but I have to subsidize it too!
Yes, I get it, it's called you have a choice. Three weeks leading up to tryouts my Bantam skated over 30 hours, he only made 3 of 7 session offered by the assocation. It was his choice and my checkbook that decided to have him do the "other" skates. Just as you decided to go to FB. There were many kids that did attend the assoc sessions to prepare for tryouts. Our assoc has offered that at all the levels since my kids started playing hockey. Sorry it conflicts with your FB, or a trip to G'ma's on Sunday, or a back yard BBQ on one of the remaining decent days before it turns cold out... That does not mean it shouldn't be offered, or that other's shouldn't be skating somewhere else just because your son want's to play FB. Go back to mites where everyone get's a trophy and no score is kept because little Johnny's team just might not be as good as the next. Disadvantaged, yeah right... Sounds like an excuse in the making!
It's truly a sad state of affairs that you have to run your kid into the ground just to keep him at a high state of readiness for hockey tryouts. I feel sorry for you and people like you. Seriously. I hope your son isn't burnt out by the time his high school career is over. And I hope he maintains his health through the rigors of the program you've set him up with. Good luck.
First you said the extra ice is an advantage. Now you're saying it's ruining the kids lives and threatening their health? Which one is it?
helightsthelamp wrote:
Yes, I get it, it's called you have a choice. Three weeks leading up to tryouts my Bantam skated over 30 hours, he only made 3 of 7 session offered by the assocation. It was his choice and my checkbook that decided to have him do the "other" skates. Just as you decided to go to FB. There were many kids that did attend the assoc sessions to prepare for tryouts. Our assoc has offered that at all the levels since my kids started playing hockey. Sorry it conflicts with your FB, or a trip to G'ma's on Sunday, or a back yard BBQ on one of the remaining decent days before it turns cold out... That does not mean it shouldn't be offered, or that other's shouldn't be skating somewhere else just because your son want's to play FB. Go back to mites where everyone get's a trophy and no score is kept because little Johnny's team just might not be as good as the next. Disadvantaged, yeah right... Sounds like an excuse in the making!
It's truly a sad state of affairs that you have to run your kid into the ground just to keep him at a high state of readiness for hockey tryouts. I feel sorry for you and people like you. Seriously. I hope your son isn't burnt out by the time his high school career is over. And I hope he maintains his health through the rigors of the program you've set him up with. Good luck.
I feel sorry for people like you that think everyone owes you something and you have no clue... Clearly you also don't know how to read.. As it was my son's choice and my checkbook... As stated above... Yes he choose to participate in the HP14's. Yes, it was 100% his choice to skate with his assoc friends at a clinic put on by the High School coach. Guess what MR KNOW IT ALL... I told him it would be a lot and his response was yeah, but I will be ready for tryouts.... He is doing just fine. His Bantam AA coaches are putting the team thru much more difficult work outs then he had leading up to tryouts... Get a clue... My guess is you think it would be considered torture to have them run the stairs at the pit...if you had any clue what that meant! LOL (I will give you a hint, it's called conditioning) Oh and, guess what. Go outside of MN and teams start a lot earlier then they do here... many tier 1 teams have over 10 games in already...
My oldest son's Tier 1 team already has 15 games in actually. (and his team actually has a light game schedule compared to some tha already have 20 in....)
My sincere apologies guys. Seriously. I just get frustrated sometimes with how overbearing the sport can be sometimes. It just eats at me sometimes how kids have such a hard time being 3 sport athletes anymore. I was and was still able to be a D1 athlete. They're just kids man! I'll quit my whinefest now. Good luck to everyone's kid. I hope they make the top team.
I understand for some maybe even a majority of kids hockey has become a year around sport I do think that the youth hockey season starts too early and ends too early. Nearly every community has year around ice and those that don't aren't skating the first week in October anyhow. Why not start the hockey season in mid to late October so as not to interfere with fall sports and end in mid to late March instead of mid to late February? Spring sports generally can't start until late March and many communities have empty ice the last week of February and in early March until spring hockey starts or figure skating clubs have their show. Then those who want to skate year around can and those that want to play a fall sport also can without conflict. Conflicts put on kids by adults who should know better but often don't. I think we've expanded the hockey season on the wrong end and in many instances it was done intentionally to conflict with fall sports.
It's hard to grow a sport when these conflicts arise; football (for better or worse) is fighting for survival due to concussions my guess is hockey will eventually have to face the same issues in some form and that's taking away the expense issue and fact hockey unlike most every other sport isn't something you can start at age 12 and be proficient at by high school.
....The season is the season the price is the price.... Don't like it, run for a board position make the changes you would like to see.... Or start your own association and fly it under the AAU banner.... otherwise my suggestion would be to stop whining and embrace the fact your association offers these wonderful additional optional skates to try and give you more for your money........
(and his team actually has a light game schedule compared to some tha already have 20 in....)