Is MNH set to change Regional format?

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:20 am

BadgerBob82 wrote:MN Hockey created this monster. (Again the AA-A program is fine, but MN Hockey screwed this part of it up)

Coaches categorize games as MUST WIN and don't matter. The coach was right, this game didn't matter.

Due to MN Hockey screwing up the South regional, smart coaches will figure a way to get the best 4 teams from all of these Districts into State.

You really are cracked!

And folks wonder why Rochester Hockey is going down the tubes......?

snowpuck · Post by **snowpuck** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:36 am

Coaches categorize games as MUST WIN and don't matter. The coach was right, this game didn't matter.

Why didn't it matter? It mattered to those 17 kids!!! I'd rather see PL or Chaska in at this point... No respect

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:38 am

snowpuck wrote:The barn burner takes place in Chaska tonight.

Should be an interesting Badminton match. Jefferson will not want all it's hard work from last night's game to go to waste. They may go the German Shepherd route.

snowpuck · Post by **snowpuck** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:18 am

Hi maybe Freddy can cover and report for yhh the d6 third place game tonight and the championship game tomorrow.
Funny haven't heard anything from yhh. -crickets-, always good opinions and insight

snowpuck · Post by **snowpuck** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:31 am

Last thing... The third seed from d6- they won't escape Edina in regions if you look at the bracket. Good luck with that jags/tonka. It's going to get really interesting tonight. Sad....

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 am

This was exactly what the D6 proposal (unanimously approved) was trying to avoid.

snowpuck · Post by **snowpuck** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:59 am

I vaguely remember reading something that they were voting on? Will these seedlings change or no?

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:17 pm

We are busy covering the tourney in Fargo right now.

Here's a take: something like this was bound to happen. I highly doubt we cover that game tonight in Chaska. However, I will say this. We said a long time ago this could happen.

Here's another: we blame the Jefferson coach for not starting the Boy goalie and rolling his lines. But it's not like the kids are stupid. They know the story too. Every PW player on those two teams has been to on the internet...they know what's at stake. One Jefferson dad called me today about this and said, "X said to me after the game last night...if we lose we play MAML in the first round..."

I'm on Karma's side here. Jefferson should have played it out and not started girl goalie and played with the same mentality as their counterparts. This may help their team into more Region games, but I doubt the Jags go to state over STMA or St. Cloud.

When I was in HS, we knew that when one goalie was in we always had a chance and when the other was in net, we had no chance. I think that was in play here. The Jeff dad also said that he fully expects the same tonight, too. Girl goalie and Rolled lines.

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:50 pm

YouthHockeyHub wrote:I'm on Karma's side here.

In the epic badminton battle, Karma will be hard to assign.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:46 pm

Good one Blue.

Spoke to John Perry today at MNH...the change has been approved. Note: there was more than one change made to the brackets...so stay tuned to what they are.

I will publish a link to the story here and on my site when it comes out.

TS

Deep Breath · Post by **Deep Breath** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:03 pm

New Region Brackets have been posted on the Mn Hockey website.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:49 pm

Here is the link to MNH page/release:

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/news_art ... r_id=80568

I posted virtually the same document without all of the MNH speak and apologies. While speaking to John Perry today, he was very apologetic in his tone about these errors.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... -adjusted/

TS

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:19 pm

Tony, was John Perry apologetic about just the clerical error? Was anything brought up concerning the situation that mnhock created in the race to be 4th seed in D6?

Mnhockeys · Post by **Mnhockeys** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:21 pm

YouthHockeyHub wrote:Here is the link to MNH page/release:

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/news_art ... r_id=80568

I posted virtually the same document without all of the MNH speak and apologies. While speaking to John Perry today, he was very apologetic in his tone about these errors.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... -adjusted/

TS

The change was NOT the same fix as suggested by yhh a few days ago! Did mnh just would never not get the simple pairing thing correct, or the yhh analysis was not incorrect?

Mnhockeys · Post by **Mnhockeys** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:26 pm

edgeless2 wrote:Tony, was John Perry apologetic about just the clerical error? Was anything brought up concerning the situation that mnhock created in the race to be 4th seed in D6?

Not just d6, all the districts with additional seed going somewhere else!

Will mnh do anything about the offenders?

the_juiceman · Post by **the_juiceman** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:12 pm

edgeless2 wrote:Tony, was John Perry apologetic about just the clerical error? Was anything brought up concerning the situation that mnhock created in the race to be 4th seed in D6?

What situation did Mn Hockey create? If teams threw games to get the lower seed, then shame on them and they get what they deserve

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:54 pm

edgeless2 wrote:Tony, was John Perry apologetic about just the clerical error? Was anything brought up concerning the situation that mnhock created in the race to be 4th seed in D6?

Was just aplogetic about clerical error...not "mess" with D6.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:59 pm

Mnhockeys wrote:
YouthHockeyHub wrote:Here is the link to MNH page/release:

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/news_art ... r_id=80568

I posted virtually the same document without all of the MNH speak and apologies. While speaking to John Perry today, he was very apologetic in his tone about these errors.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... -adjusted/

TS

The change was NOT the same fix as suggested by yhh a few days ago! Did mnh just would never not get the simple pairing thing correct, or the yhh analysis was not incorrect?

What I posted a couple days ago was correct (it was lifted directly from an email forwarded me from a "friend" that was from MNH Exec Dir to the 12 District Directors for a vote.

What changed from what I posted and the current document was the B Districts complained an additional inconsistenty that had never been done before either. If the B district 1 and 2 won first round games they would face each other in the semis. So they switched that, too

In other words. LVS if #1 could have potentially played EV #2 in the semis. So they switched the B district teams from the same side of the bracket.

I can assure you. there was no fiction to what I reported. That email was a layup to report.

Mnhockeys · Post by **Mnhockeys** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:25 pm

YouthHockeyHub wrote:
Mnhockeys wrote:
YouthHockeyHub wrote:Here is the link to MNH page/release:

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/news_art ... r_id=80568

I posted virtually the same document without all of the MNH speak and apologies. While speaking to John Perry today, he was very apologetic in his tone about these errors.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... -adjusted/

TS

The change was NOT the same fix as suggested by yhh a few days ago! Did mnh just would never not get the simple pairing thing correct, or the yhh analysis was not incorrect?

What I posted a couple days ago was correct (it was lifted directly from an email forwarded me from a "friend" that was from MNH Exec Dir to the 12 District Directors for a vote.

What changed from what I posted and the current document was the B Districts complained an additional inconsistenty that had never been done before either. If the B district 1 and 2 won first round games they would face each other in the semis. So they switched that, too

In other words. LVS if #1 could have potentially played EV #2 in the semis. So they switched the B district teams from the same side of the bracket.

I can assure you. there was no fiction to what I reported. That email was a layup to report.

What is the inconsistency for #1 and #2 playing each other in semi if they win their first game?

Is this in rule book, or someone just made the rule out of the wind?

If the #2 and #3 from the same district win first game, they have to play each other in semi, and that is consistency?

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:29 pm

Consistency from previous year's bracketing. Another miss they uncovered during the process the last two days.

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:34 pm

Mnhockeys wrote:
YouthHockeyHub wrote:
Mnhockeys wrote:
The change was NOT the same fix as suggested by yhh a few days ago! Did mnh just would never not get the simple pairing thing correct, or the yhh analysis was not incorrect?

What I posted a couple days ago was correct (it was lifted directly from an email forwarded me from a "friend" that was from MNH Exec Dir to the 12 District Directors for a vote.

What changed from what I posted and the current document was the B Districts complained an additional inconsistenty that had never been done before either. If the B district 1 and 2 won first round games they would face each other in the semis. So they switched that, too

In other words. LVS if #1 could have potentially played EV #2 in the semis. So they switched the B district teams from the same side of the bracket.

I can assure you. there was no fiction to what I reported. That email was a layup to report.
What is the inconsistency for #1 and #2 playing each other in semi if they win their first game?

Is this in rule book, or someone just made the rule out of the wind?

If the #2 and #3 from the same district win first game, they have to play each other in semi, and that is consistency?

I believe the correct way to perceive this is to report it as the info comes in, kudos to YHH. I think we are all happy that someone is "on the case" as in earlier years nobody would have known a thing except for insiders. So all us rubes actually know what a sh** show this whole process has been. Except for...(and it kills me to say this) BO!!

the_juiceman · Post by **the_juiceman** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:13 pm

edgeless2 wrote:
Mnhockeys wrote:
YouthHockeyHub wrote:
What I posted a couple days ago was correct (it was lifted directly from an email forwarded me from a "friend" that was from MNH Exec Dir to the 12 District Directors for a vote.

What changed from what I posted and the current document was the B Districts complained an additional inconsistenty that had never been done before either. If the B district 1 and 2 won first round games they would face each other in the semis. So they switched that, too

In other words. LVS if #1 could have potentially played EV #2 in the semis. So they switched the B district teams from the same side of the bracket.

I can assure you. there was no fiction to what I reported. That email was a layup to report.
What is the inconsistency for #1 and #2 playing each other in semi if they win their first game?

Is this in rule book, or someone just made the rule out of the wind?

If the #2 and #3 from the same district win first game, they have to play each other in semi, and that is consistency?
I believe the correct way to perceive this is to report it as the info comes in, kudos to YHH. I think we are all happy that someone is "on the case" as in earlier years nobody would have known a thing except for insiders. So all us rubes actually know what a sh** show this whole process has been. Except for...(and it kills me to say this) BO!!

oh yes....it's one big conspiracy to screw someone over. The more the better. Watch out...MNH is out to get you.