rainier wrote:There it is in bold, you admit private schools have advantages. It is recorded in your post for all eternity. That's my point, private schools have advantages over public schools, advantages that get magnified in Class A.
There ya go again putting words in my mouth. I love how you simply ignore all of the advantages that public schools have too. Both have advantages that the other doesn't. You won't get me to say that one is better than the other, there are people in this thread who have posted saying they have kids who've attended both. I know many personally.
Advantage doesn't not equal better.
rainier wrote:Can public schools also raise significant money from donors? Sure, but it doesn't happen very often, and that is my point. You can talk all you want about public schools can do this or that, but in reality it doesn't happen, and that leaves us with private schools having advantages.
So the advantage is that they do something someone else is able to do but chooses not to?
That like a kid with a D on a test saying his grade should be changed because the kid who got an A had an "advantage" because he studied more
rainier wrote:Why this is the case is another argument.
1. I have never intended to argue about anything. I have continuously tried to have discussions about this topic. When I have told that my first hand experience is false, it begins an argument.
2. You don't want it to be the discussion, but it's the one I've been trying to have for years now, and continue to. You want to have the "poor me" discussion, when you continue to admit it is about choice in many cases. You also keep turning the public/private discussion into a metro/outstate discussion, which is also not what the discussion is about.
rainier wrote:HSHW, I know you are going to ask me "What are these advantages you keep talking about?" That's what you do. So don't even ask, just go to my previous post.
I have read your posts. Most of them. Multiple times too. They refer to "a commodity that has a real world cash value" but never explicitly say what that commodity is. I'd like to know
exactly what you think that commodity is.
rainier wrote:As for the stickler and your claim that there is no luster lost when it comes to STA's trophies...
Why do you keep bringing up STA? No one is bringing up your community. So when you say "private schools" you really mean "STA?"
You do realize that they have moved up and the three people you are having a private school discussion with have wanted them to move up for years now, right?
elliott70 wrote:
Well, you see, right there, you have no training, no experience to base that comment on.
So why do you make it.
Bemidji is surrounded by 3 native American reservations.
Some of those kids come to Bemidji. and, unfortunately for all concerned, most of these kids have special needs so the community provides for them. The communities that provide for these students directly have an even bigger % of special needs.
So yes, a lot are in one classroom, but even if they are spread out, what is the point you are making. Their needs diminish?????
The point is private schools do not administer to ALL. The public schools not only do but MUST. And this takes resources.
hshw, you need to get older.
You sure make a lot of assumptions about me personally that you have absolutely zero knowledge of.
I know zero about Bemidji. I've been there once in my life, so I won't speak to their situation specifically. The broad point I was making is that the learning of some is often hindered by having certain other students in their classroom, for a variety of reasons.
I don't know where certain aspects of special ed play into a discussion with private schools. I know that there are many students part of the special education umbrella that attend likely every private school in the state that has a hockey program. I also know that there are "private schools" that are only for students with special needs, like autism for example.
With some exceptions, everyone is paying for the same product in a private school. Tuition is the same and you are getting [basically] the same thing.
This is not the case with public education, which is a societal need, which is why the public pays for it and not just those who are currently enrolled in it.
Rude Dog wrote:What about the families with great hockey players that move to Hermantown prior to 9th grade, so their kids can play Youth Hockey there and hopefully make the Varsity someday? How are they taught about this "Hometown Pride", since they obviously didn't have it when they left their prior city? Is there a re-programming of some sorts?
I'm also curious what age a family needs to move into the area to be part of rainer's definition.
rainier wrote:Private schools have more resources per student which makes them more attractive.
Are you talking about private schools here or one particular private school? If you are talking about them in general, I'd be curious as to why you think that. I'd also be curious what you consider a "resource."
rainier wrote:Rude Dog wrote:
Perhaps you missed my question from earlier Rainier. Where exactly is Hermantown Hockey being held back by a lack of resources?
In Hermantown it's not as much the lack of financial resources so much as it is the fact that the talent pool they draw from contains about 2.2 million fewer people than that which a metro private school draws from.
Ha, I knew it! And now I have it in writing!
