Will Edina go undefeated at PWA (or AA) this year?

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:46 pm

oldman70 wrote:The real point with Edina peewee aa is they have at least three 99s that
sould be playing bantams, for their development, can score easily in peewees
but so what.

Hopefully this will play to their advantage going up against the Michigan AAA all-star teams this weekend.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:54 pm

What?

http://youthhockeyhub.com/looking-for-a ... -michigan/

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:03 pm

YouthHockeyHub wrote:What?

http://youthhockeyhub.com/looking-for-a ... -michigan/

Great article.....look forward to the updates.

observer · Post by **observer** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:19 pm

Good luck to Edina! Sounds like an exciting trip and games!

Just out of curiosity, how many Edina PWAAs are 99s?

SnowedIn · Post by **SnowedIn** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:27 pm

YouthHockeyHub wrote:What?

http://youthhockeyhub.com/looking-for-a ... -michigan/

If you are questioning Edgeless2's post, he is referring to the 99's on the Edina team. The Michigan Pee Wee teams Edina is playing only have 00's. 99's are Bantams.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:27 pm

Pretty sure the 2 goalies.

11, 22, 9, and 10 for sure.

While researching this feature, I discovered that the average age of this Edina team may in fact be younger than the average age of these three Detroit teams. I obviously didn't pull Birth Records but I know the birth years of most Edina kids through AAA and I know that most elite AAA teams are drawing on the north half of the calendar for their kids.

I would have written that in the story, but it was already waaaaay too long.

So it's a pretty fair fight.

hope that helps.

SnowedIn · Post by **SnowedIn** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:37 pm

YouthHockeyHub wrote:Pretty sure the 2 goalies.

11, 22, 9, and 10 for sure.

While researching this feature, I discovered that the average age of this Edina team may in fact be younger than the average age of these three Detroit teams. I obviously didn't pull Birth Records but I know the birth years of most Edina kids through AAA and I know that most elite AAA teams are drawing on the north half of the calendar for their kids.

I would have written that in the story, but it was already waaaaay too long.

So it's a pretty fair fight.

hope that helps.

What? You "discovered" the average age "MAY BE" younger. This by "knowing" that most AAA kids are early calendar year (you don't know because they don't list them), knowing the birth "years" of Edina kids (you mean specific birthdates I hope?), and also taking into account that there are at least 5 or 6 99s on the Edina team and none on the MI teams.

I think you meant to say that its possible that the average age of the Edina kids is younger but without knowing the actual birthdates of the 00s on the teams its hard to say...And, on second thought, after further review and discovery, given that there are 5 or 6 99's on the Edina team and none on the MI teams, probably not.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:45 am

oldman70 wrote:The real point with Edina peewee aa is they have at least three 99s that
sould be playing bantams, for their development, can score easily in peewees
but so what.

Don't all Minnesota PW AA teams have 1999 born players?

observer · Post by **observer** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:33 am

Don't all Minnesota PW AA teams have 1999 born players?

Most likely. Historically, some of the top PeeWee and Bantam teams from MN can have as many as 10-12-14 players from the older birthyear.

oldman70 · Post by **oldman70** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:57 am

My point is, if you are a mature 99 you would want to
push yourself to a hire level, instead of dominating younger
players. I suppose it goes back to the parents wanting the
glory.

warmskin · Post by **warmskin** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:33 am

Sounds like from this conversation the players from the top 5 Peewee AA teams are destined for the NHL. At Bantams is where you start loosing more players to injury and burnout. Taking kids out of school to fly to MI sends the wrong message to children about academics and hockey.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:00 am

oldman70 wrote:My point is, if you are a mature 99 you would want to
push yourself to a hire level, instead of dominating younger
players. I suppose it goes back to the parents wanting the
glory.

Old Man:

Your post is an interesting one for me. Where I live it is customary that at least some of the top players "play up" in age. I've always wondered why it is very unusual in Minnesota for the same.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:03 am

warmskin wrote:Taking kids out of school to fly to MI sends the wrong message to children about academics and hockey.

I run a tournament. I changed the format to eliminate Friday games and have told countless people that I don't think kids should miss school for our tournament. Most agree, but a lot say, "they do it all the time."

That might be. But not for my tournament. They can miss for someone else's.

Anyway, I agree with you Warm about the importance of school. It's just that with youth hockey what is "normal" in Minnesota is anything but everywhere else. "AAA" level players often play 5 or 6 games on a weekend and they have to travel out on a Thursday night to do that.

Not taking sides on this one. Just a statement.

SCBlueLiner · Post by **SCBlueLiner** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:11 am

O-townClown wrote:
oldman70 wrote:My point is, if you are a mature 99 you would want to
push yourself to a hire level, instead of dominating younger
players. I suppose it goes back to the parents wanting the
glory.
Old Man:

Your post is an interesting one for me. Where I live it is customary that at least some of the top players "play up" in age. I've always wondered why it is very unusual in Minnesota for the same.

Associations won't allow it. Well, I shouldn't say that as most associations have systems in place for kids to play up but they have to meet certain criteria like being in the top 5 or 10% of players at the next level.

There's a lot of politics that goes into decisions like this. You can't just look at what is good for the individual kid but what is good for the level and for the organization. If X kid moves up which Y kid loses a spot and what are the future ramifications of such a decision. I.e. will this cause kids to quit and while there is short term gain, enhanced development of the younger player, will this cause long term number problems in both the level he is moving to (kids get displaced and quit before they are fully developed. Parents do get upset about this stuff and they make decisions to quit writing the checks for hockey) and the level he is leaving behind (maybe the team he is leaving really needs that player to be competitive, now they get pummeled, morale suffers, kids quit).

SnowedIn · Post by **SnowedIn** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:21 am

And if you miss a few Fridays over the course of the school year for hockey in MI/Roseau or other distant MN tournament/chess tournament/band event/cheer competition... how does that impact a student and their academics? In no way at all. Good students can and do manage their workload around these events.

snowpuck · Post by **snowpuck** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:04 am

Good luck to Edina.. what a great thing to do, go and play the best of the best.. A lot of cynical people on the boards wishing Edina to fail.. or it is basically this: If they go there and clean up it will be because they have 99's on their team and if they lose people will love it! So they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. There however is not one other peewee team in MN that could go and compete with these teams in Detroit. I know first hand how talented these teams are in Detroit.I think YHH did a fine job breaking it down and will add nothing further. I agree with a previous poster this will do nothing to change MN Hockey. I applaud them for going to set up these scrimmages in Detroit and wish them nothing but success and a great time.

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:55 pm

This will be fun to watch!

I wish Edina good luck-- I think they'll do just fine. (They've proven it through the '00 Machine, as far as I'm concerned.)

Probably the slight age advantage will be a nice offset for the all-star quality of the Tier 1 teams.

In other words, the geographic constraint of MN community-based hockey versus Tier 1 teams ability to draft any talent willing to drive the distance to practice will be balanced by the few extra, more mature players. (Still, I hasten to add that some of Edina's top talent is '00 and even '01.)

This is close as we'll get to seeing the Machine play against Tier 1, and I'll be rooting for the Big Green (Orange)!