Waivers

Quasar · Post by **Quasar** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:59 am

This topic seems to be running concurrently on a couple of threads.

I think it is important enough to have it's own..

My take on the waiver question is:
If someone wants out of their current association for whatever reason a waiver should be granted.

It shouldn't be easy, but it should be possible..

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:18 am

If they want out let them go. Why would you want to keep them??

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:46 am

I can't think of one reason to keep somebody that wants out.

Where the problem must arise, the accepting association doesn't want the pain in the A$$ in their organization either.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:10 pm

BadgerBob82 wrote:I can't think of one reason to keep somebody that wants out.

Where the problem must arise, the accepting association doesn't want the pain in the A$$ in their organization either.

I love how bob automatically assumes that someone who is leaving an assocation is a problem or a pain in the A$$. I've known many people who have left their associations for various reasons over the years, for every individual pain in the rear that leaves about 9 that leave are really good people that got forced out by the real a$$hats in charge of their organization and despite these good peoples best efforts to effect change and work in their associations best interests they were forced to eventually leave. Believe it or not bob the problem often can lie with the association not the individual leaving....

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:34 pm

JSR: I love how you don't even read what I write. I totally agree with you that 90% of the people leaving an association are good people. From my experience (8 years on Board) we never denied a request out of our association. In fact, I don't think we denied any coming in, though a couple I voted against.

Are you implying there are waiver requests being denied by the current association?

I am under the impression waivers are denied by the accepting association? And their reasons can be many. But I have never seen a "good person" be denied a waiver request.

Snap Happy · Post by **Snap Happy** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:04 pm

I've heard waivering out typically leaves you being eligible only to play B1 level (or lower) in the association you switch to. Any truth to that? Does the rule vary by association?

SWPrez · Post by **SWPrez** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:34 pm

Snap Happy wrote:I've heard waivering out typically leaves you being eligible only to play B1 level (or lower) in the association you switch to. Any truth to that? Does the rule vary by association?

I believe it is up to the accepting association to police that rule. I suppose the releasing association can write on the waiver form that it is granted only for B1 or below. That way, it may be caught at the registrar team roster verification.

Like they say in Pirates of the Caribbean, they are guidelines.....not rules. If an "A" caliber kid wants to play elsewhere because the highest level team fielded by his home association is a B1 team, I don't think a District Director would force the player to play B1 hockey at his new association. There are probably dozens of other examples where a kid would be allowed to play "A" in his first year and each one has to be looked at. The spirit of the rule is to prevent "loading up" an all star team by one "A" program while eroding the competitiveness of the other "A" program.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:24 pm

Snap Happy wrote:I've heard waivering out typically leaves you being eligible only to play B1 level (or lower) in the association you switch to. Any truth to that? Does the rule vary by association?

Switcing to another Jr High is probably what you're thinking..

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:58 pm

Bo, I think he meant it doesn't matter what Jr High Little Bo attends.

erpresident · Post by **erpresident** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:41 pm

I can think of one situation, a goalie. I would never waive a goalie out unless we had enough at that level.

Quasar · Post by **Quasar** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:23 pm

How about something else? A District transfer. Each year anyone in the district can Transfer to any other association in the district as long as they submit an application by July 15th of the year in question. No waivers, No discussion. Applied for and granted!
I understand the argument that all the good kid's would go the the best associations. Seems to me that would solve a lot of problems. Like the junk associations would have to compete or die.. Or they could all band together in a giant stink hole of a co-op.

No one should be trapped in a bad situation.. No one...