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Breaking News: MN Hockey officially adds AA/A

Post by YouthHockeyHub »

Minnesota Hockey released it's official format today regarding AA and A for Bantams and PeeWees.

Go to our site to see all of the details.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... nd-bantam/
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Post by greybeard58 »

From the front page Mn Hockey web site.

Minnesota Hockey adds “AA” State Tournaments for Bantam A and PeeWee A
04/27/2012, 2:00pm (CDT)
By Minnesota Hockey Inc.
Will be conducted on a one-year pilot basis

Since 1951 Minnesota Hockey has been determining state champions at various levels of hockey. As participation in the sport has grown, both in overall numbers and the addition of girls hockey, the number of state tournaments has increased. Since 2006, state tournaments have been conducted at 12 different levels:

· YOUTH - Pee Wee A, Pee Wee B, Bantam A, Bantam B, Junior Gold A, Junior Gold B, and Junior Gold 16

· GIRLS - 12U A, 12U B, 14U A, 14U B, and 19U B.



To address the size disparities amongst our community hockey associations, Minnesota Hockey will be adding a state tournament classification at the Bantam A and PeeWee A levels for the 2012 – 13 season. The additional classification will be identified “AA” and be primarily for A teams from larger associations. The “AA” tournaments are being added as a pilot program and will be reevaluated in the spring of 2013. No other changes are being made to any other state tournament.



“Hockey players dream of playing in a State Tournament,” said Dave Margenau, President of Minnesota Hockey. “The addition of the “AA” classification will provide players from smaller or developing associations the opportunity to realistically compete for a spot in a state tournament. We believe the AA tournament format will accomplish this, however, we are conducting this on a one-year pilot basis to ensure that all our state tournaments continue to best serve our entire membership in the long term”


Highlights of the “AA” classification process include:

· An association’s tournament classification (“A” or “AA”) is determined by the classification of the boys’ high school programs defined by the geographical area the association serves.

· For associations who co-op for 2012-13, their classification will correspond to the highest high school classification of the co-op associations.

· Associations may request a change in their classification, regardless of size. Requests can be made to move up or down. Association classification must be the same for both the Bantam and PeeWee level.

· All requests for classification change must be received no later than October 6th, 2012.

· All requests will be carefully considered and final determination made by the Minnesota Hockey Competition Committee.

· Please note, the “AA” classification is solely for Regional and State Tournament purposes.

· “AA” Regional/State Tournament teams are still considered “A” teams during the regular season.



Highlights of the “AA” tournament format include:

· Four (4) eight-team “AA” regional tournaments will be conducted at both the Bantam and Pee Wee levels to determine the teams advancing to the “AA” state tournament

· Two (2) teams from each “AA” regional tournament will be seeded into the state tournament.

· If a district has one or two “AA” classified teams, those teams automatically advance to a regional tournament.

· If a district has three or more “AA” teams, that district will be awarded additional seeds to the regional tournaments to fill the remaining 32 spots. Those additional seeds will be awarded proportionally amongst the Districts who have three or more “AA” teams.

· Districts are responsible for determining the teams and the seeding order of the teams advancing from their District to the Regional Tournaments.

· The location of the “AA” regional and state tournaments has not yet been determined.



Please contact your district director with any specific questions or comments. Contact information for all district directors can be found at http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/show/86521.



If you would like to offer a general comment, please direct that to info@minnesotahockey.org
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Post by MrBoDangles »

How will they break off into these "four AA regional tournaments of eight teams"? AA teams that don't get a bid go down to the A (new B-1) tournament? Tony Scott says 8 AA teams in District 2 and only 3 getting bids to The Elite 32. So now you're going to have the AA teams that didn't make it slide down and stronger B-1 teams slide up for a well balanced AA-A-B1 tournament of 100 teams? WHO IS GETTING HELPED???? THE 32!!!!

How will the playoff tournaments be run in districts with only 3-4 "AA" caliber teams?

Districts with only 1 or 2 "AA" teams will automatically be sent to regionals.......???? What a great deal! Why even call them a member of the district?

Is this for real? :shock:
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

Bo,

The AA teams that don't make the playoffs will not be able to drop down and play in the A tournament. Like the A teams that don't qualify, they will be done. I am not sure why you are so against this new format. It sounds like you come from a association that will form an A team, not a AA team. Your team will now be able to play any AA team during the season, and at playoffs will play the other A teams for a chance at the state tourney. The only thing changing is that the mega associations will pull thei top teams into the AA playoffs. This should help associations like yours.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

DumpandChase1 wrote:Bo,

The AA teams that don't make the playoffs will not be able to drop down and play in the A tournament. Like the A teams that don't qualify, they will be done. I am not sure why you are so against this new format. It sounds like you come from a association that will form an A team, not a AA team. Your team will now be able to play any AA team during the season, and at playoffs will play the other A teams for a chance at the state tourney. The only thing changing is that the mega associations will pull thei top teams into the AA playoffs. This should help associations like yours.
Districts with 2-4 "AA" caliber teams will have a district playoff? Sounds like some are getting an automatic bid because of their size from reading the article above.

Do the best not end up winning the state tournament with the current format?

Are associations currently forced to play at certain levels or do they play where they CHOOSE?

Isn't it a sign that the teams that currently play A, CHOOSE to play at the highest level?

What will change if associations are still able to CHOOSE?

Teams that want to play at the highest level will now all of a sudden change their minds with this great new B-1 (A) tournament? :shock:

](*,)
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

Bo: It is becoming more obvious you are hung up on the letter classification than the reality. If you are so afraid of your association playing A level hockey instead of AA, could one infer that your association doesn't make Districts some years, loses in "play-in" games other years and probably has never made it to Regionals?

I would think if your association consistently makes it to Regionals, and has good showings, then your association would be a good candidate to play at the AA level.

If not, instead of hanging up the skates on Valentine's Day, your teams could play into mid-March. At the HIGHEST level your association is capable of playing.

If you're from an association I have in mind, the top 50% of B1 teams could already beat you, so what's the problem? AA just sounds better to you?
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Post by HockeyTalk18 »

An association’s tournament classification (“A” or “AA”) is determined by the classification of the boys’ high school programs defined by the geographical area the association serves.

2011/2012 Bantam Teams

H.S. “A” H.S. “AA”
Albert Lea Andover
Alexandria Anoka
Austin Apple Valley
Chaska Armstrong
Chisago Lakes Bemidji
Crookston Blaine
Crow River/ Delano Jefferson
Detroit Lakes Kennedy
East Grand Forks Brainerd
Eveleth Buffalo
Faribault Burnsville
Fergus Falls Cambridge
Greenway Centennial
Hermantown Champlin Park
Hibbing Cloquet
Highland Central Coon Rapids
Hutchinson Cottage Grove
Litchfield D/C Dodge County
Little Falls Duluth East
Luverne Eagan
Mahtomedi Eastview
Mankato Eden Prairie
Mora Edina
Mound Westonka Elk River
New Prague Farmington
New Ulm Forest Lake
Northfield Grand Rapids
Orono Hastings
Princeton Hopkins
Porctor Lakeville North
Red Wing Lakeville South
Rogers Minneapolis
Sartell Minnetonka
Sauk Rapids Monticello
Sibley Moorhead
Spring Lake Park Mounds View
St. Cloud Osseo/MG
St. Louis Park Owatonna
St. Peter/Lesueur Prior Lake
Thief River Falls River Lakes
Virginia Rochester
Waconia Roseau
Warroad Rosemount
Willmar Roseville
Edina #2 Shakopee
Wayzata #2 St. Cloud
Moorhead #2 St. Michael/Albertiville
Rochester #2 Stillwater
OMG #2 Tartan
Minnetonka #2 Wayzata
Stillwater #2 White Bear Lake
Woodbury #2 Winona
Woodbury


Looking at the “A” pool there really is no reason some of the others, WBL,MPLS,EP,PL,Eagan,Cenn,Rooseville,Tartan, (teams with the most Teams at the Bantam level) could not be in that pool come Regions/State, but then again maybe they don’t want that #2 team playing other #1’s during the regular Season? If some of those AA cites don’t do A also, you can bet who will be mopping up B1’s, if they go AA and A, could lead to a open for all at B1 Region/State

I’m sure there will be some move up’s and down’s but this is a pretty close starting point
“AA” will be the norm come Regions/State?, “A” who knows...?, B1’s Regions/State?
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Post by MrBoDangles »

BadgerBob82 wrote:Bo: It is becoming more obvious you are hung up on the letter classification than the reality. If you are so afraid of your association playing A level hockey instead of AA, could one infer that your association doesn't make Districts some years, loses in "play-in" games other years and probably has never made it to Regionals?

I would think if your association consistently makes it to Regionals, and has good showings, then your association would be a good candidate to play at the AA level.

If not, instead of hanging up the skates on Valentine's Day, your teams could play into mid-March. At the HIGHEST level your association is capable of playing.

If you're from an association I have in mind, the top 50% of B1 teams could already beat you, so what's the problem? AA just sounds better to you?
Why don't you stop the hypothetical (You're not even close) bs and try to comprehend the tough questions.

You said "They'll probably mess it up and set Mn Hockey back ten years by doing it wrong". Again, YOU said it! So should we/you ask questions if we think that they're not thinking some of the things through clearly? :idea: :idea: :idea:

The tough questions are not being answered.

Study the Anoka and Champlin Park A Bantams and how the faired against A and AA teams in the pilot program last year. Better balance? What changed really?


:idea:
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

Bo: You didn't respond to one point I've made? Nothing was hypothetical.

And you are correct! I do think MN Hockey will screw this thing up!

If they implemented my ideas, it would be a great thing and move Mn Hockey forward. Am I that smart? No, but common sense prevails!

I've read through 100's of your prior posts, and can't figure out which association you belong to. But you are so afraid the top 32 are going to somehow get better? These top 32 consistently end the seasons of the bottom 70 teams that could now continue playing for 2-4 weeks. If these top 32 (or many of them) also field A level teams, and stronger B1 teams step to the A level, I think you would have many more teams playing at the highest competitive level, having seasons extend into March and the B1 and B2 levels will be corrected also. I still don't understand you point of view.

I think you were mentioning waivers? I can't believe your association would hold up your little superstar from waiving to a neighboring association. In fact, I bet your association president would hand deliver the paperwork just to get rid of you!
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

Bo: I've looked at the season game-logs for Anoka and CP Bantam A's. Not sure what your point is? Looks like they were both ranked in the upper 40's out of 100 teams? Both had roughly .500 seasons? Both scored similar goals compared to goals against? Both played teams ranked above and below them? Both had several OT games? Of the lop-sided scores, looked like both were on the winning side more than the losing side?

Help me see what the problem is? And if their District did an experiment with league games, I don't know what that was. So help me see where the problem lies.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

The extended play sounds great if we step into your un-thought out world.
District 2 will have 8-9 AA teams. People think that 3 will earn a bid to the Elite 32. How much of an extension will the 5-6 that don't get a bid have? And the teams that get the automatic bids because they're one of only two AA teams in a District? They'll get more games by missing out on district play?


We would be lucky to have you, and your great plans, on the MN Hockey board............ :shock: :lol:


You're all over the place.. :shock:

I'm actually starting to feel bad for ya. :(

Say hello to Bobby Beetwo Jr for me. :lol:
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

MrChickenLittleDangles: The sky is falling. I get it. But you really aren't doing a good job explaining what the actual problem is?

You use D2 as your example. How many teams did D2 send to Regions in the past? I assume 2 some years, 3 other years depending on the rotation of Districts combined for Regionals?

So didn't 5-6 darn good teams get knocked out at the District level in the past?

AND, didn't some teams that will be A level teams actually miss out of District play entirely based on their league record? And didn't some of these A level teams get knocked out in play-in games?

So won't the AA and A levels allow 8 more teams to compete at Districts, then 2-3 at Regions? And maybe 1-2 continue to State?

You may see this as "feel good" everyone gets to play for a State title. I see it as creating play-offs for the Davids and Goliaths. Much the way the MSHSL intended the Class A tournament, though the metro Private schools view it differently.

AND, if done properly will fix what I consider problems at the B1 level.

How about you do this. Change the names and towns. But tell me the scenario you envision that will snag your little superstar and squash his hockey development?
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Post by black sheep »

i had this in the other post, but there are real concerns in the outstate

Anyone know how the AA / A split will work in the outstate districts?

D16 only has 2 AA HS teams, Bemidji & Roseau (opt up), so do they play a 1 game championship for the auto to Regions and the other hopes to get an at large bid?

D15 AA has moorhead & brainerd

D11 AA has cloquet & duluth

D12 AA has grand rapids

Is there a plan for re-alignment?
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Post by MrBoDangles »

BadgerBob82 wrote:MrChickenLittleDangles: The sky is falling. I get it. But you really aren't doing a good job explaining what the actual problem is?

You use D2 as your example. How many teams did D2 send to Regions in the past? I assume 2 some years, 3 other years depending on the rotation of Districts combined for Regionals?

So didn't 5-6 darn good teams get knocked out at the District level in the past?

AND, didn't some teams that will be A level teams actually miss out of District play entirely based on their league record? And didn't some of these A level teams get knocked out in play-in games?

So won't the AA and A levels allow 8 more teams to compete at Districts, then 2-3 at Regions? And maybe 1-2 continue to State?

You may see this as "feel good" everyone gets to play for a State title. I see it as creating play-offs for the Davids and Goliaths. Much the way the MSHSL intended the Class A tournament, though the metro Private schools view it differently.

AND, if done properly will fix what I consider problems at the B1 level.

How about you do this. Change the names and towns. But tell me the scenario you envision that will snag your little superstar and squash his hockey development?

Childish Name, You just explained how nothing will change besides 32 teams playing in an elite new tournament.

They will let the 5-6 D-2 AA teams that didn't make regions slide down to the A(B1) tournament then? Where do you see the more teams?

What problems do you see being fixed at your B level?

Quit day dreaming about your little (just giving it back) bender in an A sweater.

It's all set geared for the mega associations and filled with propaganda to make you(Bob) think it's for everybody.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

black sheep wrote:i had this in the other post, but there are real concerns in the outstate

Anyone know how the AA / A split will work in the outstate districts?

D16 only has 2 AA HS teams, Bemidji & Roseau (opt up), so do they play a 1 game championship for the auto to Regions and the other hopes to get an at large bid?

D15 AA has moorhead & brainerd

D11 AA has cloquet & duluth

D12 AA has grand rapids

Is there a plan for re-alignment?
These AA teams won't really be a part of their districts next year because they'll recieve automatic bids (Greybeard's MNH article post) to the 32.

Not sure why the other teams in their district would care to play them anymore..?

If you re-aligned them in the same district it would ruin their cakewalk.. :idea: :wink:
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Post by MrBoDangles »

greybeard58 wrote:From the front page Mn Hockey web site.

Minnesota Hockey adds “AA” State Tournaments for Bantam A and PeeWee A
04/27/2012, 2:00pm (CDT)
By Minnesota Hockey Inc.
Will be conducted on a one-year pilot basis

Since 1951 Minnesota Hockey has been determining state champions at various levels of hockey. As participation in the sport has grown, both in overall numbers and the addition of girls hockey, the number of state tournaments has increased. Since 2006, state tournaments have been conducted at 12 different levels:

· YOUTH - Pee Wee A, Pee Wee B, Bantam A, Bantam B, Junior Gold A, Junior Gold B, and Junior Gold 16

· GIRLS - 12U A, 12U B, 14U A, 14U B, and 19U B.



To address the size disparities amongst our community hockey associations, Minnesota Hockey will be adding a state tournament classification at the Bantam A and PeeWee A levels for the 2012 – 13 season. The additional classification will be identified “AA” and be primarily for A teams from larger associations. The “AA” tournaments are being added as a pilot program and will be reevaluated in the spring of 2013. No other changes are being made to any other state tournament.



“Hockey players dream of playing in a State Tournament,” said Dave Margenau, President of Minnesota Hockey. “The addition of the “AA” classification will provide players from smaller or developing associations the opportunity to realistically compete for a spot in a state tournament. We believe the AA tournament format will accomplish this, however, we are conducting this on a one-year pilot basis to ensure that all our state tournaments continue to best serve our entire membership in the long term”


Highlights of the “AA” classification process include:

· An association’s tournament classification (“A” or “AA”) is determined by the classification of the boys’ high school programs defined by the geographical area the association serves.

· For associations who co-op for 2012-13, their classification will correspond to the highest high school classification of the co-op associations.

· Associations may request a change in their classification, regardless of size. Requests can be made to move up or down. Association classification must be the same for both the Bantam and PeeWee level.

· All requests for classification change must be received no later than October 6th, 2012.

· All requests will be carefully considered and final determination made by the Minnesota Hockey Competition Committee.

· Please note, the “AA” classification is solely for Regional and State Tournament purposes.

· “AA” Regional/State Tournament teams are still considered “A” teams during the regular season.



Highlights of the “AA” tournament format include:

· Four (4) eight-team “AA” regional tournaments will be conducted at both the Bantam and Pee Wee levels to determine the teams advancing to the “AA” state tournament

· Two (2) teams from each “AA” regional tournament will be seeded into the state tournament.

· If a district has one or two “AA” classified teams, those teams automatically advance to a regional tournament.

· If a district has three or more “AA” teams, that district will be awarded additional seeds to the regional tournaments to fill the remaining 32 spots. Those additional seeds will be awarded proportionally amongst the Districts who have three or more “AA” teams.

· Districts are responsible for determining the teams and the seeding order of the teams advancing from their District to the Regional Tournaments.

· The location of the “AA” regional and state tournaments has not yet been determined.



Please contact your district director with any specific questions or comments. Contact information for all district directors can be found at http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/show/86521.



If you would like to offer a general comment, please direct that to info@minnesotahockey.org
""Please note, the "AA" classification will be solely for the *Regional and *State tournament purposes"" ~MNH's article from above

How would the AA/A teams compete together in Districts and then move on to seperate regionals? And they expect stronger B-1 teams to move up to the new A level?

Greybeard?
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

Bo: You said "nothing will change besides 32 teams playing in an elite new tournament" Is this the problem you have? That there will be 32 teams, that have been "elite" for many years, separated from the associations that have no chance to compete at an "A" level?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like your little guy will not be playing in at the "AA" level? So while he would continue to get knocked out on Feb 15th in a play-in game or not even make Districts, under the AA/A model, he could compete for a State title on March 15th? Sounds like you are hung up on the AA, A, B letter? Your kid is a AAA player so what do you care? Don't buy a winter team sweatshirt!

I could care less. You keep thinking I want my kid at the A level instead of B level? Wrong, I want B1 teams, that would be ranked #50-60 at the current A level, playing at the A level. And I want solid #40-#50 ranked A teams to have a chance to play past Vaelntine's Day. I also want the "elite" teams to have a better regional format so as the State AA tournament doesn't have the 1-2 teams that really aren't top 8 teams.

I think your biggest concern is how to complete the waiver form?

Yes, out-state districts will need additional thought. I would hope when the associations choose their path, adequate time is allowed to formulate Districts and Regions wisely.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

BadgerBob82 wrote:Bo: You said "nothing will change besides 32 teams playing in an elite new tournament" Is this the problem you have? That there will be 32 teams, that have been "elite" for many years, separated from the associations that have no chance to compete at an "A" level?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like your little guy will not be playing in at the "AA" level? So while he would continue to get knocked out on Feb 15th in a play-in game or not even make Districts, under the AA/A model, he could compete for a State title on March 15th? Sounds like you are hung up on the AA, A, B letter? Your kid is a AAA player so what do you care? Don't buy a winter team sweatshirt!

I could care less. You keep thinking I want my kid at the A level instead of B level? Wrong, I want B1 teams, that would be ranked #50-60 at the current A level, playing at the A level. And I want solid #40-#50 ranked A teams to have a chance to play past Vaelntine's Day. I also want the "elite" teams to have a better regional format so as the State AA tournament doesn't have the 1-2 teams that really aren't top 8 teams.

I think your biggest concern is how to complete the waiver form?

Yes, out-state districts will need additional thought. I would hope when the associations choose their path, adequate time is allowed to formulate Districts and Regions wisely.
You're just too childish to communicate with.
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Post by observer »

You're just too childish to communicate with.
I see it the other way around.

Tell us your specific issue?

How are some teams hurt?

How are some players hurt?

It will affect different teams different ways so you're trying to generalize where you really can't. Each player has a specific set of circumstances around them different than every other player in the State.
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

Childish? Come on Bo. You love running your mouth, yet you won't say what your issues are with the AA/A proposal?

I have admitted there's a good chance MNHockey will mess this up. I have voiced my opinion as to what I think would be good. But you can't even tell the truth as to your problems with the proposal?

You bounce around from this to that, yet have never stated how this will directly affect your association or your kid's team.

All I can think is your kid will not be on an AA team and you think an A team is beneath you?
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Post by MrBoDangles »

observer wrote:
You're just too childish to communicate with.
I see it the other way around.

Tell us your specific issue?

How are some teams hurt?

How are some players hurt?

It will affect different teams different ways so you're trying to generalize where you really can't. Each player has a specific set of circumstances around them different than every other player in the State.
Blind Observer Chicken(is this how we roll on here, just call each other names?), I only ask questions and get lambasted for having a different opinion than Bob? Bob keeps calling my kid names and I shouldn't respond?

How will the 5-6 AA teams that don't make it to regionals benefit? How will Champlin and Anoka benefit when they didn't win any games against AA teams in the District 10 pilot program...........? They benefit from playing a mix of teams...... The Andover's to the Mora's. Would the Anoka's and Champlin's possibly have more success with the current playoff format, or just going against Blaine's and Elk River's now? Where do they get more games in the playoffs? I suppose they could throw in the towel and play the new A(B-1) and forget about High School success...

Yes, there will be plenty of negatives to THINK about.

Benefits for some and negatives for others. It's worth it to revamp eveything and totally change the future landscape from youth through high school.......? Because it will! There will be major benefits for the 32 that are regulars. :idea:

Yes, you're an idiot. (if that's how we roll?)
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Post by MrBoDangles »

BadgerBob82 wrote:Childish? Come on Bo. You love running your mouth, yet you won't say what your issues are with the AA/A proposal?

I have admitted there's a good chance MNHockey will mess this up. I have voiced my opinion as to what I think would be good. But you can't even tell the truth as to your problems with the proposal?

You bounce around from this to that, yet have never stated how this will directly affect your association or your kid's team.

All I can think is your kid will not be on an AA team and you think an A team is beneath you?
And Observer doesn't find it funny that you AGREE MN Hockey will mess it up... "10 years to fix" But shouldn't ask questions........? Wow!

My guess(bet my house) is that you're both on some level of a Hockey board.... It all makes sense! :roll:
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Post by greybeard58 »

Bo,
One more time. All AA/A teams will be registered as "A" teams with Mn/USA Hockey. All will be able to play against each other whether in non-league games or invitational tournaments.
My best guess that in D10 there will be both an A Peewee and A Bantam league with 2 divisions A/AA there will be inter-divisional play with all games counting in the division standings. When it is time for the District tournament the AA teams will have a tournament to advance to regions and so will the A Division teams. If you lose you do not drop into a different level you are finished. As to how many times the AA will play the A division teams will depend on the number of over all "A" registered teams there are.
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

Bo,

What is it that you want to have happen. You rip on everyone's ideas, but I still don't know what it is that you want MN hockey to do.

Can you please lay out your master plan for all of us?
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Post by MrBoDangles »

greybeard58 wrote:Bo,
One more time. All AA/A teams will be registered as "A" teams with Mn/USA Hockey. All will be able to play against each other whether in non-league games or invitational tournaments.
My best guess that in D10 there will be both an A Peewee and A Bantam league with 2 divisions A/AA there will be inter-divisional play with all games counting in the division standings. When it is time for the District tournament the AA teams will have a tournament to advance to regions and so will the A Division teams. If you lose you do not drop into a different level you are finished. As to how many times the AA will play the A division teams will depend on the number of over all "A" registered teams there are.
The talk has been about the three levels of playoffs, Districts, Regionals, and State.
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