Class A Rankings 2-19-12

[HShockeywatcher]

In the last 4 games of the top 3 teams, there have been 11 shut outs. All three of them could realistically keep that streak going through sections and possibly the first round of state. There's some really good hockey going on into sections right now.


1. Hermantown (25-0) [16-0]
4 shut outs in their last 4 games, the Hawks are rolling as sections come around. Both SCC and Rogers scored one goal each against them. How many teams can they shut out in section play?

2. St Thomas Academy (20-5) [12-0]
The Cadets have allowed 3 goals in the last 9 games, including 6 shut outs. They have previously shut out Totino-Grace, so they could keep the shut outs going into sections.

3. Breck (21-3-1) [17-2]
Defense has been an issue for Breck all season, allowing a handful of goals to most of the quality teams they’ve played but this week they traveled to Faribault and allowed only three goals and followed that up by shutting out St Paul Academy and Breck away. Whatever the issues before, they are rolling at the right time.

4. St Cloud Cathedral (20-5) [20-5]
I doubt anyone expected a win in Duluth yesterday, but the Crusaders showed they can win and score goals against good teams. While it’s like an outside shot, Cathedral is probably the only team who has a shot at upsetting Hermantown, but they’ll have to worry about getting by Rogers first.

5. Thief River Falls (19-4-2) [15-2-1]
The Prowlers drop two spots with two wins in which they allowed a total of 1 goal. They are definitely the 4 seed if they make it to state, but if any of the above teams make it, the Prowlers will be seeded lower.

6. Duluth Marshall (18-7) [14-5]
The Hilltoppers have quite a few wins over teams below them, but have also lost to all 5 teams above them. If they are section champs, they will likely not be seeded. It will be interesting to see who they are matched up with.

7. Totino-Grace (16-9) [12-6]
A very interesting 4 goal loss to Spring Lake Park on the road this week, but they should definitely be the #2 seed in the section and after playing St Thomas close, no one would be surprised to see them playing at the X.

8. Rochester Lourdes (17-7) [12-5]
The Eagles will be the top seed in section 1, although their final game likely against New Prague should be a close one as their wins have been 5-3 and 2-1.

9. Blake (18-7) [16-3]
The Bears have some very quality wins this season but their recent losses to Lourdes and Breck show there is little chance we will be seeing them at the X.

10. Mahtomedi (15-10) [11-5]
The Zephyrs will likely play Totino-Grace in the semi’s and there will likely be good games in sections. Mahtomedi has been the team to upset St Thomas recently; can they do it again?

11. Rogers (18-6-1) [9-6]
The Royals are an interesting team to try to rank with their win this week over the Crusaders, but they are staying below quite a few teams they have lost to this season.

12. East Grand Forks (15-10) [11-4]
The Green Wave played a much closer game with Thief River Falls the second time around. The two will likely meet a third time; can they win the meeting that counts?

13. Warroad (13-11-1) [8-7]
The Warriors have had an up and down season with some good wins and some bad losses. They will have to upset twice to make it back to the X but few would be too surprised if they made it happen.

14. Delano (17-6) [13-5]
The Tigers only losses in their last 10 games have been to Holy Family, the last one away and in OT. Despite an early season OT loss, Delano is seeded above Blake and if they can get the win, they will be able to play Breck for the section champion.

15. Mound-Westonka (15-8-1) [11-7-1]
There are numerous teams who could be in the 15 spot on my list; after comparing a handful of them, it appears the White Hawks have a good resume. They are playing a team they are 1-0-1 against in the quarterfinals; can they make it to the semifinals and have a shot at Breck?

[Prowlerhockey]

Just curious as to why you moved SCC up to 4,TRF and DM down to 5 and 6? Not complaining or anything,just trying to see your thought process.

[PuckU126]

12. East Grand Forks (15-10) [11-4]
The Green Wave played a much closer game with Thief River Falls the second time around. The two will likely meet a third time; can they win the meeting that counts?

YES! THEY! CAN!

[Prowlerhockey]

12. East Grand Forks (15-10) [11-4]
The Green Wave played a much closer game with Thief River Falls the second time around. The two will likely meet a third time; can they win the meeting that counts?

YES! THEY! CAN!

Yes,your right they possibly could do that,but only IF they can get past warroad on warroads home ice...(tough to do)

[HShockeywatcher]

Just curious as to why you moved SCC up to 4,TRF and DM down to 5 and 6? Not complaining or anything,just trying to see your thought process.

I tried as hard as I could to look at the whole season instead of just what happened in the last week. SCC beat DM 7-5 this week. Although TRF's win over DM is much better than SCC, I like their season as a whole more. PageStat has them at #5, TRF at #10. It's really tough to say where a lot of teams should be.

The team I have at #12, for example, has lost to all of one Class A team, a team that is in the top 5, and has a win over #7.

I know, it's quite interesting that the #3 team has an 8-1 win over the #4 team.

[Prowlerhockey]

Just curious as to why you moved SCC up to 4,TRF and DM down to 5 and 6? Not complaining or anything,just trying to see your thought process.

I tried as hard as I could to look at the whole season instead of just what happened in the last week. SCC beat DM 7-5 this week. Although TRF's win over DM is much better than SCC, I like their season as a whole more. PageStat has them at #5, TRF at #10. It's really tough to say where a lot of teams should be.

The team I have at #12, for example, has lost to all of one Class A team, a team that is in the top 5, and has a win over #7.

I know, it's quite interesting that the #3 team has an 8-1 win over the #4 team.

@hshockeywatcher...so,to clear things up,if all the top teams in their sections went to state,how would the seedings most likely look?

[HShockeywatcher]

@hshockeywatcher...so,to clear things up,if all the top teams in their sections went to state,how would the seedings most likely look?

My opinion:
1. Hermantown
2. St Thomas
3. Breck
4. Thief River Falls

While I doubt any of the top 3 will lose, only 6 top seeds made their section final last year, so anything is possible. Half of the section top seeds won their section last year.

[4thlineproblems]

To answer the poll question i think it will be 5:
section 1, 2, 4, 7, 8

[Prowlerhockey]

@hshockeywatcher...so,to clear things up,if all the top teams in their sections went to state,how would the seedings most likely look?

My opinion:
1. Hermantown
2. St Thomas
3. Breck
4. Thief River Falls

While I doubt any of the top 3 will lose, only 6 top seeds made their section final last year, so anything is possible. Half of the section top seeds won their section last year.

I don't think the top 3 will lose either,and your right anything can happen,that's why I love high school hockey!...I respect what you do here,it has to be really tough to come up with rankings week after week!

[royals03]

[quote="HShockeywatcher"]In the last 4 games of the top 3 teams, there have been 11 shut outs. All three of them could realistically keep that streak going through sections and possibly the first round of state. There's some really good hockey going on into sections right now.




4. St Cloud Cathedral (20-5) [20-5]
I doubt anyone expected a win in Duluth yesterday, but the Crusaders showed they can win and score goals against good teams. While it’s like an outside shot, Cathedral is probably the only team who has a shot at upsetting Hermantown, but they’ll have to worry about getting by Rogers first.


11. Rogers (18-6-1) [9-6]
The Royals are an interesting team to try to rank with their win this week over the Crusaders, but they are staying below quite a few teams they have lost to this season.

Interesting that you say that Cathedral is the only team with a chance to beat Hermantown. Let's see both Rogers and Cathedral lost to by 1 to H-town, then Rogers beats Cathedral with their 2nd line center in the box for 15 minutes and lose a wing off their 1st line for 5 and kill off all the penalties.
I will give you that Rogers has lost to some teams that makes you scratch your head, however I guess they feel that every game that is important to them the y have showed up for. Rogers beat every section opponent they played except H-town. Rogers understood the signifigance ofthe Cathedral game a semi-final home game with the victory. We all wish that players would show up and play their hardest for all games, but with some that is just not the case. Rogers will be ready for the section playoffs and with no doubt if Cathedral and H-town want to go to state they are going to have to be hitting on all cylinders.
Rogers senior class wants to prove that the loss of the 3 top scorers from their A bantam will not prevent them from making a trip to state.
Rogers in conference this year undefeated!
Schwann cup undefeated!
Section opponents 1 loss which nobody has beat the team they lost to.
Other losses only affect state rankings up to this point and keep people guessing how good is Rogers, even their fans.

[northern_guy]

Just curious as to why you moved SCC up to 4,TRF and DM down to 5 and 6? Not complaining or anything,just trying to see your thought process.

yes, it is interesting, but i think scc has proved since their season opening game with breck that they can beat, or play a tight game with any class a team in the state, and scoring 7 goals after bus ride up to duluth on a saturday isnt a shabby way to finish the regular season. i think these rankings are a perfect reflection of how each team should be ranked. with warroad and roseau not anywhere near what they usually are and TRF's success against them,i think people were putting TRF a tad higher than they probably deserve

[northern_guy]

In the last 4 games of the top 3 teams, there have been 11 shut outs. All three of them could realistically keep that streak going through sections and possibly the first round of state. There's some really good hockey going on into sections right now.




4. St Cloud Cathedral (20-5) [20-5]
I doubt anyone expected a win in Duluth yesterday, but the Crusaders showed they can win and score goals against good teams. While it’s like an outside shot, Cathedral is probably the only team who has a shot at upsetting Hermantown, but they’ll have to worry about getting by Rogers first.


11. Rogers (18-6-1) [9-6]
The Royals are an interesting team to try to rank with their win this week over the Crusaders, but they are staying below quite a few teams they have lost to this season.

Interesting that you say that Cathedral is the only team with a chance to beat Hermantown. Let's see both Rogers and Cathedral lost to by 1 to H-town, then Rogers beats Cathedral with their 2nd line center in the box for 15 minutes and lose a wing off their 1st line for 5 and kill off all the penalties.
I will give you that Rogers has lost to some teams that makes you scratch your head, however I guess they feel that every game that is important to them the y have showed up for. Rogers beat every section opponent they played except H-town. Rogers understood the signifigance ofthe Cathedral game a semi-final home game with the victory. We all wish that players would show up and play their hardest for all games, but with some that is just not the case. Rogers will be ready for the section playoffs and with no doubt if Cathedral and H-town want to go to state they are going to have to be hitting on all cylinders.
Rogers senior class wants to prove that the loss of the 3 top scorers from their A bantam will not prevent them from making a trip to state.
Rogers in conference this year undefeated!
Schwann cup undefeated!
Section opponents 1 loss which nobody has beat the team they lost to.
Other losses only affect state rankings up to this point and keep people guessing how good is Rogers, even their fans.

the people i have talked to that saw the game said that rogers beating cathedral was a fluke and rogers was lucky to win...9 out of 10 games cathedral would win that game. cathedral also dropped a game to lourdes that they shouldnt have..stuff happens..but i am feeling good about my crusaders in sections to upset hermantown...not too worried about rogers.

[royals03]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

[HShockeywatcher]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

[Puck76]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

Rogers was on their heels in the third period. Even some of the Roger's parents were starting to laugh at the number of waived off icings for Roger's, something like 8 in a row. No I really look forward to a good game next time (but one where the Roger's coach doesn't hug the ref after the game like the last game).

[Hoc2x21]

Now that is funny!
Go SCC!

[northern_guy]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

yes, this will be fun! see you sunday morning on here!...or late saturday night even. we all know SCC is the only team with a chance at beating H-town. i predict 7-3 SCC in the section semi final

[BobSaget]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

yes, this will be fun! see you sunday morning on here!...or late saturday night even. we all know SCC is the only team with a chance at beating H-town. i predict 7-3 SCC in the section semi final

That's pretty bold.

[royals03]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

yes, this will be fun! see you sunday morning on here!...or late saturday night even. we all know SCC is the only team with a chance at beating H-town. i predict 7-3 SCC in the section semi final

Would you like a 2nd chance at your prediction? Oh and I suppose they should just skip the section final game since the only team that had a chance to beat Hermantown lost to a team again that has no chance.

[itsjusthockey7742]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

Rogers was on their heels in the third period. Even some of the Roger's parents were starting to laugh at the number of waived off icings for Roger's, something like 8 in a row. No I really look forward to a good game next time (but one where the Roger's coach doesn't hug the ref after the game like the last game).

Whats your excuse this time ... SCC would have hugged the ref had they been able to anything with some of those calls given them.

[royals03]

what part was a fluke Rogers being 2-3 on the PP along with being 4-4 on the PK. Yes that PK included two 5 minute majors, however one was cut short because cathedral took a penalty due to the forechecking of Rogers PK. Even if it was a fluke it gives Rogers home ice for the game in sections. I am also glad you feel confident that means you are a loyal fan which means it will hurt that much more when they lose again.

Rogers was on their heels in the third period. Even some of the Roger's parents were starting to laugh at the number of waived off icings for Roger's, something like 8 in a row. No I really look forward to a good game next time (but one where the Roger's coach doesn't hug the ref after the game like the last game).

Whats your excuse this time ... SCC would have hugged the ref had they been able to anything with some of those calls given them.

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