Class A Rankings 1-1-12

[HShockeywatcher]

Happy New Year everyone!
A few things about the rankings this week:

-The top 3: After my analysis (in my rankings two weeks ago), what we have seen between STA/Breck, and how close Hermantown has played against lesser teams, I think this is a pretty good fit for right now. You should still debate they should be in any order you want, and I suspect it will really be up to speculation until state. The winner of the Breck/STA game will likely get the #1 seed and (bad losses withstanding) the loser will be #2. Both reliable computer systems have them in this order.

-I started a sections ranking with the two sections who don't have any teams in my rankings. In the next couple weeks I will slowly add more sections. I have not heard from anyone if any sections are using QRF this year or if they are all voting still.

-There are still 4 teams undefeated against Class A opponents. First hand info on how they compare if you've seen them each play would be great. If EGF can continue to win against Class A teams, it will be interesting to see how they are seeded/ranked as things go forward.

-Enjoy! Constructive criticism and friendly discussion always welcome.


1. Breck (10-0) [6-0]
Only playing one home game thus far this season, the Mustangs have better slightly GF/GA games than St Thomas against their two common opponents (Marshall and Holy Angels) and, despite not being a top 5 AA team, they showed they can play with the best by winning this holiday break with a win over Lakeville South. Only 5 of their remaining 15 games will provide them any difficulty. They are idle this week but then travel to play Moorhead next week.
This week: Idle

2. St Thomas Academy (5-3) [3-0]
The Cadets showed this past week they can play with anyone in the state; one of two teams to outshoot East this season and played them closer than anyone yet. They should notch another conference win Thursday and then be tested again in Mahtomedi as they Zephyrs have been playing well lately.
This week: Thurs @ South St Paul, Sat @ Mahtomedi

3. Hermantown (10-0) [7-0]
Hermantown continues to win, but many continue to not be very convincing. There have been more than one week I was planning on moving them up to #1 this season had they played better, but they played lower teams tight. They are probably still the favorite to make it to state, maybe even win, if they can stay out of the box, which has been their #1 problem. 6 of their next 7 games are on the road, which will be a great test for them. Marshall has played both Breck and St Thomas tight; how will the defense and goalie handle Judd Peterson?
This week: Thurs @ Duluth Marshall, Sat @ International Falls

4. Mahtomedi (7-4) [4-2]
It took more than 14 minutes into OT for the Thunderhawks to score on the Zephyrs. Their losses are to Breck and AA teams and beat Rogers by the same margin Hermantown did; how will they do against the Eagles and the Cadets this week?
This week: Tues @ Totino-Grace, Thurs @ Henry Sibley, Sat vs St Thomas

5. Duluth Marshall (8-4) [6-2]
The drop in the rankings this week is due to what Mahtomedi did, not anything the Hilltoppers did wrong. They have an opportunity this week to jump a couple spots; the Hawks have needed to come from behind against teams much worse than Marshall, can Judd get them ahead and keep them ahead?
This week: Tues @ Greenway, Thurs vs Hermantown, Sat @ Rochester Lourdes

6. East Grand Forks (9-2) [6-0]
Another loss against a non-Class A team. The Green Wave will continue to win games and it will continue to be difficult to tell what they mean compared to the rest of the state. One of the games they lost is to a team two section foes beat and the other is to a ND team they play twice more. In their next 5 games they play two ND teams followed by two 8AA teams.
This week: Thurs @ Grand Forks Red River

7. Totino-Grace (6-4) [5-3]
The Eagles didn’t have a winter tournament and their only game was against Red Wing. The only team below them they’ve lost to is Blake and it was in OT. This week against Mahtomedi should be us a better idea of where they should be.
This week: Tues vs Mahtomedi, Thurs vs Robbinsdale Cooper

8. Thief River Falls (8-2-1) [5-2]
Going into the third period at home the Prowlers were beating Hermantown; they’ve also beaten Warroad and Blake. This Tuesday at Moorhead should be a great game.
This week: Tues @ Moorhead, Thurs @ Kittson Central

9. Blake (5-5) [4-1]
The Bears just went 0-3 in the Silver Division of the Schwan Cup while playing no Class A teams and losing to Bemidji by the same GF/GA as EGF did. Only one of their losses is to TRF and they have one goal wins over Delano, Totino and Mahtomedi. Their remaining schedule includes the Tri-City Conference, Lourdes, Hutchinson and Chanhassen. To get much higher they will need others above them to lose…or beat Breck.
This week: Tues vs St Paul Johnson, Fri vs Chanhassen, Sat @ Minnehaha Academy

10. Rogers (6-4) [3-4]
The loss to Little Falls at home right before Christmas doesn’t look great, but they responded with three Schwan Cup wins. They lost to Mahtomedi and Hermantown both by 1 and it took both of them coming from behind to beat the Royals. Two games this week should be wins although it will be tough for them to rise much higher without bad losses from other teams for another month. They should cruise through their Mississippi 8 schedule and play Lourdes and Cathedral in two of their last 4 games.
This week: Tues @ St Louis Park, Thurs @ Cambridge-Isanti

11. Warroad (6-4-1) [4-3]
The early season loss seems to be shaken off. The Warriors will probably be a top 3 seed going into sections as their recently OT losses to EGF and TRF indicate they are not as far behind as once thought. Winning the second time around could definitely still get them the top seed as they also play Marshall and Cathedral this season.
This week: Fri vs St Cloud Tech, Sat vs St Cloud Cathedral

12. Orono (4-4-1) [4-3]
It is tough to tell where the Spartans should be; their early win against Warroad may be wearing off as they lost to Hudson in OT recently. Their Wright County schedule will give them an opportunity to get some wins and play for a top 3 or 2 seed in sections depending on how they can do against Delano.
Tues @ Hutchinson, Thurs vs Waconia

13. Rochester Lourdes (8-3) [6-2]
3 wins, 28 goals, 2 shut outs, 1 city. Not a bad holiday tournament regardless of the opposition. The Eagles have one bad away loss to Little Falls but otherwise have 8 wins against teams they should be beating. The beating St Thomas put on them suggests they won’t be able to do much better this weekend when they host the Hilltoppers.
This week: Sat vs Duluth Marshall

14. St Cloud Cathedral (7-2) [7-2]
The Crusaders have a schedule thus far that is very difficult to tell how good they are, especially after they beating Breck put on them the first game of the season in Duluth. Since then they have taken care of business allowing 1 goal in their last 4 games, the last 3 being shut outs. Three away games this week; if they can win all three they will rise a couple spots next week.
This week: Tues @ Holy Family Catholic, Fri @ Crookston, Sat @ Warroad

15. Delano (7-4) [3-4]
Playing top teams close is a great sign; 3 goal loss to Marshall, 2 goal loss to Breck, and OT losses to Blake and Cathedral. The Tigers are in line for a 3 or 4 seed in sections and they are a team I wouldn’t be surprised to see in the finals. If they can get by Lourdes and Orono they will have a 17 game winning streak going into the section semifinals.
This week: Tues vs Waconia, Thurs @ Mound-Westonka


Section Standings
3A
Marshall (3-0)
New Ulm (1-1)
Hutchinson (0-2)
Luverne (0-1)
Marshall has beaten Luverne, New Ulm and Hutchinson, so they are the favorite at the moment. That being said, their wins over New Ulm and Hutchinson were both by 1 goal and they play New Ulm again. New Ulm and Hutchinson don’t play again, so this is likely to be how the top 4 end up on the season, with the possibility of the top 2 switching when they play against on Feb 2nd.

6A
Alexandria (3-0)
Little Falls (1-1)
Wilmar (0-2)
Prairie Center Area (0-1)
If the season were over today, this is most likely how the top 4 would look.
Alexandria has beating the other 3, each 1 goal games. Little Falls lost a one goal game to Alexandria but recently shut out Wilmar. Little Falls and Prairie Center Area play this week. Looking at their results and upcoming schedules I expect these to be the top 4 with Little Falls winning the second match up with Alexandria and getting the nod for the #1 seed.

[Iranger33]

Marshall makes a trip to Hutch on January 5th.

[rainier]

Love the rankings HSHW. Here's my view of 7A

1. Duluth Marshall
2. Duluth Denfeld
3. Hibbing
4. I-Falls
5. Virginia

I don't think much separates the top three and it wouldn't be a surprise to see any of them get to state.

[pipersniper12]

Love the rankings HSHW. Here's my view of 7A

1. Duluth Marshall
2. Duluth Denfeld
3. Hibbing
4. I-Falls
5. Virginia

I don't think much separates the top three and it wouldn't be a surprise to see any of them get to state.

Hibbing?

[rainier]

Love the rankings HSHW. Here's my view of 7A

1. Duluth Marshall
2. Duluth Denfeld
3. Hibbing
4. I-Falls
5. Virginia

I don't think much separates the top three and it wouldn't be a surprise to see any of them get to state.

Hibbing?

Are you wondering if Hibbing should be ranked higher or lower?

[HShockeywatcher]

Love the rankings HSHW. Here's my view of 7A

1. Duluth Marshall
2. Duluth Denfeld
3. Hibbing
4. I-Falls
5. Virginia

I don't think much separates the top three and it wouldn't be a surprise to see any of them get to state.

Hibbing?

Are you wondering if Hibbing should be ranked higher or lower?

At this point, imo, it's too early to tell. They beat I-Falls and lost to Marshall but play Denfeld in a couple weeks and have to play Virginia still two more times.

Which is another reason I didn't post many more sections. With the exception of 8A, most haven't played too many section games yet. Also, I still don't know if sections are voting or using QRF.

[Celihockey88]

Happy New Year everyone!
A few things about the rankings this week:

-The top 3: After my analysis (in my rankings two weeks ago), what we have seen between STA/Breck, and how close Hermantown has played against lesser teams, I think this is a pretty good fit for right now. You should still debate they should be in any order you want, and I suspect it will really be up to speculation until state. The winner of the Breck/STA game will likely get the #1 seed and (bad losses withstanding) the loser will be #2. Both reliable computer systems have them in this order.

-I started a sections ranking with the two sections who don't have any teams in my rankings. In the next couple weeks I will slowly add more sections. I have not heard from anyone if any sections are using QRF this year or if they are all voting still.

-There are still 4 teams undefeated against Class A opponents. First hand info on how they compare if you've seen them each play would be great. If EGF can continue to win against Class A teams, it will be interesting to see how they are seeded/ranked as things go forward.

-Enjoy! Constructive criticism and friendly discussion always welcome.


1. Breck (10-0) [6-0]
Only playing one home game thus far this season, the Mustangs have better slightly GF/GA games than St Thomas against their two common opponents (Marshall and Holy Angels) and, despite not being a top 5 AA team, they showed they can play with the best by winning this holiday break with a win over Lakeville South. Only 5 of their remaining 15 games will provide them any difficulty. They are idle this week but then travel to play Moorhead next week.
This week: Idle

2. St Thomas Academy (5-3) [3-0]
The Cadets showed this past week they can play with anyone in the state; one of two teams to outshoot East this season and played them closer than anyone yet. They should notch another conference win Thursday and then be tested again in Mahtomedi as they Zephyrs have been playing well lately.
This week: Thurs @ South St Paul, Sat @ Mahtomedi

3. Hermantown (10-0) [7-0]
Hermantown continues to win, but many continue to not be very convincing. There have been more than one week I was planning on moving them up to #1 this season had they played better, but they played lower teams tight. They are probably still the favorite to make it to state, maybe even win, if they can stay out of the box, which has been their #1 problem. 6 of their next 7 games are on the road, which will be a great test for them. Marshall has played both Breck and St Thomas tight; how will the defense and goalie handle Judd Peterson?
This week: Thurs @ Duluth Marshall, Sat @ International Falls

4. Mahtomedi (7-4) [4-2]
It took more than 14 minutes into OT for the Thunderhawks to score on the Zephyrs. Their losses are to Breck and AA teams and beat Rogers by the same margin Hermantown did; how will they do against the Eagles and the Cadets this week?
This week: Tues @ Totino-Grace, Thurs @ Henry Sibley, Sat vs St Thomas

5. Duluth Marshall (8-4) [6-2]
The drop in the rankings this week is due to what Mahtomedi did, not anything the Hilltoppers did wrong. They have an opportunity this week to jump a couple spots; the Hawks have needed to come from behind against teams much worse than Marshall, can Judd get them ahead and keep them ahead?
This week: Tues @ Greenway, Thurs vs Hermantown, Sat @ Rochester Lourdes

6. East Grand Forks (9-2) [6-0]
Another loss against a non-Class A team. The Green Wave will continue to win games and it will continue to be difficult to tell what they mean compared to the rest of the state. One of the games they lost is to a team two section foes beat and the other is to a ND team they play twice more. In their next 5 games they play two ND teams followed by two 8AA teams.
This week: Thurs @ Grand Forks Red River

7. Totino-Grace (6-4) [5-3]
The Eagles didn’t have a winter tournament and their only game was against Red Wing. The only team below them they’ve lost to is Blake and it was in OT. This week against Mahtomedi should be us a better idea of where they should be.
This week: Tues vs Mahtomedi, Thurs vs Robbinsdale Cooper

8. Thief River Falls (8-2-1) [5-2]
Going into the third period at home the Prowlers were beating Hermantown; they’ve also beaten Warroad and Blake. This Tuesday at Moorhead should be a great game.
This week: Tues @ Moorhead, Thurs @ Kittson Central

9. Blake (5-5) [4-1]
The Bears just went 0-3 in the Silver Division of the Schwan Cup while playing no Class A teams and losing to Bemidji by the same GF/GA as EGF did. Only one of their losses is to TRF and they have one goal wins over Delano, Totino and Mahtomedi. Their remaining schedule includes the Tri-City Conference, Lourdes, Hutchinson and Chanhassen. To get much higher they will need others above them to lose…or beat Breck.
This week: Tues vs St Paul Johnson, Fri vs Chanhassen, Sat @ Minnehaha Academy

10. Rogers (6-4) [3-4]
The loss to Little Falls at home right before Christmas doesn’t look great, but they responded with three Schwan Cup wins. They lost to Mahtomedi and Hermantown both by 1 and it took both of them coming from behind to beat the Royals. Two games this week should be wins although it will be tough for them to rise much higher without bad losses from other teams for another month. They should cruise through their Mississippi 8 schedule and play Lourdes and Cathedral in two of their last 4 games.
This week: Tues @ St Louis Park, Thurs @ Cambridge-Isanti

11. Warroad (6-4-1) [4-3]
The early season loss seems to be shaken off. The Warriors will probably be a top 3 seed going into sections as their recently OT losses to EGF and TRF indicate they are not as far behind as once thought. Winning the second time around could definitely still get them the top seed as they also play Marshall and Cathedral this season.
This week: Fri vs St Cloud Tech, Sat vs St Cloud Cathedral

12. Orono (4-4-1) [4-3]
It is tough to tell where the Spartans should be; their early win against Warroad may be wearing off as they lost to Hudson in OT recently. Their Wright County schedule will give them an opportunity to get some wins and play for a top 3 or 2 seed in sections depending on how they can do against Delano.
Tues @ Hutchinson, Thurs vs Waconia

13. Rochester Lourdes (8-3) [6-2]
3 wins, 28 goals, 2 shut outs, 1 city. Not a bad holiday tournament regardless of the opposition. The Eagles have one bad away loss to Little Falls but otherwise have 8 wins against teams they should be beating. The beating St Thomas put on them suggests they won’t be able to do much better this weekend when they host the Hilltoppers.
This week: Sat vs Duluth Marshall

14. St Cloud Cathedral (7-2) [7-2]
The Crusaders have a schedule thus far that is very difficult to tell how good they are, especially after they beating Breck put on them the first game of the season in Duluth. Since then they have taken care of business allowing 1 goal in their last 4 games, the last 3 being shut outs. Three away games this week; if they can win all three they will rise a couple spots next week.
This week: Tues @ Holy Family Catholic, Fri @ Crookston, Sat @ Warroad

15. Delano (7-4) [3-4]
Playing top teams close is a great sign; 3 goal loss to Marshall, 2 goal loss to Breck, and OT losses to Blake and Cathedral. The Tigers are in line for a 3 or 4 seed in sections and they are a team I wouldn’t be surprised to see in the finals. If they can get by Lourdes and Orono they will have a 17 game winning streak going into the section semifinals.
This week: Tues vs Waconia, Thurs @ Mound-Westonka


Section Standings
3A
Marshall (3-0)
New Ulm (1-1)
Hutchinson (0-2)
Luverne (0-1)
Marshall has beaten Luverne, New Ulm and Hutchinson, so they are the favorite at the moment. That being said, their wins over New Ulm and Hutchinson were both by 1 goal and they play New Ulm again. New Ulm and Hutchinson don’t play again, so this is likely to be how the top 4 end up on the season, with the possibility of the top 2 switching when they play against on Feb 2nd.

6A
Alexandria (3-0)
Little Falls (1-1)
Wilmar (0-2)
Prairie Center Area (0-1)
If the season were over today, this is most likely how the top 4 would look.
Alexandria has beating the other 3, each 1 goal games. Little Falls lost a one goal game to Alexandria but recently shut out Wilmar. Little Falls and Prairie Center Area play this week. Looking at their results and upcoming schedules I expect these to be the top 4 with Little Falls winning the second match up with Alexandria and getting the nod for the #1 seed.

Last Time I looked Alex and LF are both 3-1 in the section LF losing to Alex and Alex losing to Apollo

[Mite-dad]

A loss to Little Falls for any of these teams is not a bad loss. Little Falls could beat many of these teams on any given night. They are a good team.

[rainier]

A loss to Little Falls for any of these teams is not a bad loss. Little Falls could beat many of these teams on any given night. They are a good team.

Agreed. I would say that in Class A you have the big three at the top, and then teams 4-15 (plus Little Falls and Hibbing) could beat each other on any given night and it wouldn't be much of an upset.

[HShockeywatcher]

Last Time I looked Alex and LF are both 3-1 in the section LF losing to Alex and Alex losing to Apollo

I just included their record against the other teams listed. Sometimes there are teams in the 4-5 seed range that have a really good section record because they play mostly section opponents in the 6-11 range so it inflates how they look when comparing to the others.

A loss to Little Falls for any of these teams is not a bad loss. Little Falls could beat many of these teams on any given night. They are a good team.

Agreed. I would say that in Class A you have the big three at the top, and then teams 4-15 (plus Little Falls and Hibbing) could beat each other on any given night and it wouldn't be much of an upset.

I agree that Little Falls could play with any of these teams on any given night. I, for one, wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they made it to a semi-final game (although I wouldn't put money on it happening). In reference to my comment about Lourdes, the loss isn't "bad" in saying they are a terrible team like a loss to a much worse team would, but it "bad" for ranking in the sense that they'd be at least 5 places higher were it a win.

I agree there are groupings of teams right now, and while there is probably a small group with 2-4 teams in it below the top 2 or 3, you are right about that 3rd group extending down to 17 and then there being a pretty big gap, imo of course.

[GordonBombay99]

Id say Section 6A would be...
Alexandria
Little Falls
Fergus Falls
Apollo
etc..

Theres just too much parody in the section and no one has really taken it and made it their own yet, its still not even halfway through the season yet though.

[hockeydad]

sorry to do this to you gordon bombay

Parody: a literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule.

Parity:The state or condition of being equal, esp. regarding status or pay.

[defense]

Gordonbombay is closer to the realistic top 4 in section 6.
Not sure u could only use section games yet either. No one wants to run away with it yet.

[Mite-dad]

I've watched most of Little Falls' home games and, while I know you can't draw much for conclusions based on a couple games, I thought Cathedral was a better team than Lourdes. I was shocked that Lourdes beat Cathedral at the Crusader's home to be honest. Maybe LF was playing really well against Lourdes, who had just played SCC the day before, and RL was a little tired. But I thought RL lacked physicality and LF handled them pretty easily. Maybe it was an off game for RL. SCC beat LF at the Exchange even though LF was ahead 3-1 going into the third. Despite being behind, I thought SCC was taking it to LF pretty good. Then of course LF handed the game to the Crusaders with a string of dumb penalties.

[PuckRanger]

Love the rankings HSHW. Here's my view of 7A

1. Duluth Marshall
2. Duluth Denfeld
3. Hibbing
4. I-Falls
5. Virginia

I don't think much separates the top three and it wouldn't be a surprise to see any of them get to state.

I don't think Hibbing is in the mix at the moment. They are more on par with Virginia and International Falls than they are with Duluth Marshall - and Virginia certainly should be ahead of I Falls as they beat them rather soundly a couple weeks ago. Here are some scores with common opponents:
Duluth Marshall 5, Hibbing 2
Duluth Denfeld 4, Virginia 1

Virginia 5, I Falls 2
Hibbing 4(en) I Falls 2

Virginia 5, Mound-Westonka 3
Mound-Westonka 3, Hibbing 2

Virginia 5, St. Francis 5
Hibbing 8, St. Francis 1

Virginia, Hibbing, and I Falls all beat Little Falls by a goal.
Hibbing and Virginia both lost to Mahtomedi and Lakeville North

Based on those results, I'd have to say Marshall and Denfeld are a step ahead and Marshall has proven they can play with the likes of STA... with Virginia and Hibbing pretty much equal and I Falls maybe a hair behind them. Neither Hibbing, Virginia, or I Falls has shown they can compete with Duluth Marshall. And with a couple of Denfeld's results, I question that they can legitimately do so either.

I'd go with:
1-Duluth Marshall
2-Duluth Denfeld
T3-Hibbing
T3-Virginia
5-International Falls

On some days, 2-5 can play with anybody, but on a day-in, day-out basis, they are inconsistent. Hibbing takes too many unnecessary penalties and appears to be a one-line team again; Virginia has goaltending issues and is very young with no real prolific goal scorers; I Falls has a great top line, but as a team can't seem to play a full 51 minutes; and Denfeld is up and down like a young team might be, but isn't all that young.

That said, some games in the next 2 weeks should go a long way in clarifying things.

[rainier]

PuckRanger, here is my rationale for thinking Hibbing is in the mix for 7A. Let me start by saying that Marshall is absolutely the favorite.

Hibbing only has one "bad" loss, to Mound-Westonka, a 3-2 game in which Hibbing outshot them 34-21, but Mound's goalie played a great game, including big saves on two Adam Johnson breakaways. Other than that Hibbing has beaten all the teams they are supposed to.

They played Tonka tough (3-1), took Roseau to OT (4-3), outshot Mahtomedi 38-30 in a 5-3 game where the Hibbing goalie gave up the weakest goal in history and their pp was unusually ineffective. I think Hibbing is every bit as good as Mahtomedi. And against Marshall, the shots were about even (24-21 DM) and some late stupid Hibbing penalties killed their chances and made that game look much worse than it actually was.

Yes, Virginia did beat Mound, but Virginia lost to Lakeville North 9-3 while Hibbing stayed with them the whole game in a 6-5 loss. As I noted, Hibbing outshot Mahtomedi, but Virginia was outshot 37-24. And Virginia tied St. Francis 5-5 while Hibbing crushed them 8-1. I just don't think Virginia is on the same level as Hibbing, but we'll find out soon enough.

Marshall stayed with STA on the scoreboard but was really outplayed badly in every other way, and I think Hibbing's showing against Tonka was better than Marshall's showing against BSM. And Marshall's "bad" game was when it took overtime to beat Crookston.

Not sure what to think of Denfeld yet, they beat Greenway 6-4, yet Hibbing beat Greenway 8-0.

You are right that Hibbing does take too many penalties but I think their biggest issue has been goaltending. First year starter has been very inconsistent. If the Hibbing goalie plays like he did against Tonka, Roseau, I-Falls, Hibbing has a very good chance of going to state, but if he plays the way he did against Mahtomedi, Lakeville North, and Duluth Marshall then they have no chance.

Last season, there was not much separating Virginia, Hibbing, Marshall, and Central (now Denfeld), and Hibbing got hot in the playoffs. I think it's the same this season, and while I don't see Virginia or I-Falls being able to run off three good games to get to state, I think any one of Marshall, Denfeld or Hibbing could.

DeCenzo has found a way to get the Blue Jackets to the 7A final for 9 years in a row, so I gotta believe he will have them right there at the end this season too.

[rainier]

Also, you say Hibbing is a "one line team". I don't argue this, but just about every team in Class A besides the Big Three is a one line team, especially Duluth Marshall.

[mnmouth]

By the end of the year, Hibbing will be a better team than Denfeld, and will be fast closing in on Marshall.

[HShockeywatcher]

Rogers 5
SLP 6
OT

Tyler Brodersen with the hat trick for SLP

Hutch 5
Orono 4

Maht 3
T-G 4
OT

Some interesting scores for this week.

[rainier]

Rogers 5
SLP 6
OT

Tyler Brodersen with the hat trick for SLP

Hutch 5
Orono 4

Maht 3
T-G 4
OT

Some interesting scores for this week.

Most interesting was T-G outshooting Mahtomedi 54-27, and TJ Roo was nowhere to be found on the game sheet. Did T-G really do this without Roo playing? (Hub stats can be very questionable)

[observer]

Nice win for St. Louis Park after they wobbled in the Holiday Tourney. Hopefully they can jump into your top 20.

I noticed TJ Roo missed the game last night as well.

[HShockeywatcher]

Nice win for St. Louis Park after they wobbled in the Holiday Tourney. Hopefully they can jump into your top 20.

I noticed TJ Roo missed the game last night as well.

Such an interesting parody in the state beyond St Thomas and Breck. Hermantown needed to come from behind to beat a Rogers team that just lost in OT to a team that got shut out by Denfeld.

It's really hard to judge which teams are playing up to opponents, which are playing down and which are really that good or that bad.

[hockeyrocks]

Nice win for St. Louis Park after they wobbled in the Holiday Tourney. Hopefully they can jump into your top 20.

I noticed TJ Roo missed the game last night as well.

Such an interesting parody in the state beyond St Thomas and Breck. Hermantown needed to come from behind to beat a Rogers team that just lost in OT to a team that got shut out by Denfeld.

It's really hard to judge which teams are playing up to opponents, which are playing down and which are really that good or that bad.

OF COURSE IT IS, BECAUSE THESE TWO SCHOOLS SHOULD BE PLAYING AA AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST DECADE!!!!

[HShockeywatcher]

Nice win for St. Louis Park after they wobbled in the Holiday Tourney. Hopefully they can jump into your top 20.

I noticed TJ Roo missed the game last night as well.

Such an interesting parody in the state beyond St Thomas and Breck. Hermantown needed to come from behind to beat a Rogers team that just lost in OT to a team that got shut out by Denfeld.

It's really hard to judge which teams are playing up to opponents, which are playing down and which are really that good or that bad.

OF COURSE IT IS, BECAUSE THESE TWO SCHOOLS SHOULD BE PLAYING AA AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST DECADE!!!!

[HShockeywatcher]

5 H-Town
1 Marshal

Shots
36 DM
34 H-T

Penalty Minutes
14 H-T
10 DM

The Hawks spend more time in the box and control the game. Despite being outshot slightly, the Hawks spent more time in the box, allowed no PK goals and still dominated the scoreboard.

Hermantown plays down to lesser opponents and plays up to better opponents. All this time I've been saying you can't tell much by stats alone and people have been telling me I'm crazy