Duluth Marshall Hilltopper Classic

[Dog_Log17]

It appears DM should take care of buisness as the tournament host. Which team in this field can knock off Marshall? Does anyone know anything about this Notre Dame team?

I think the Mankato West vs Proctor game will be a good matchup. I could see this game going either way. I predict the kids from Southern Mn come up North ready to play and win this one.

Prediction:

Mankato West 3-2 Proctor

[HShockeywatcher]

Who else is in it? Do you have a bracket?

[Dog_Log17]

Opening round games today: 8 team bracket format

Notre Dame vs Appleton 1:15pm

Edgewood vs Superior 3:30pm

Mankato West vs Proctor 5:45pm

Duluth Marshall vs Delano 8:00pm

[Dog_Log17]

Looks like Delano vs Marshall should be a good matchup as well.

[7A22A]

I believe ND is #1 in WI

Bracket under tournaments @ marslakeview arena website.

[HShockeywatcher]

I believe ND is #1 in WI

Bracket under tournaments @ marslakeview arena website.

http://www.marslakeview.com/download/20 ... racket.pdf

Interesting; each team is guaranteed a game in their last round with the other teams.

How are the other teams ranked in WI?
Interesting to see how Superior is always ranked well and our teams in the 30s to 50s work them over...

[HShockeyupnorth]

Notre Dame 7
Appleton 1

Notre Dame VERY strong team.

[7A22A]

December 26, 2011

Boys Rankings

1 Notre Dame Academy (9-0)
2 Superior (4-2-1)
3 Verona (8-1)
4 Wausau West (6-4)
5 D.C. Everest (7-1-1)
6 Eau Claire Memorial (6-1-1)
7 Middleton (7-2)
8 University School (5-4)
9 Homestead (7-4)
10 Green Bay United (7-3-1)

[Chalk_Talk]

does anyone know if these gamrs are streamed or are on the radio?

[HShockeyupnorth]

Superior Wisconsin vs Notre Dame of Green Bay 5:45pm Wednesday
Duluth Marshall vs Mankato West 8:00pm Wednesday

[Dog_Log17]

I don't think that there is any streams for these games. However if there is, I would really like a link.

does anyone know if these gamrs are streamed or are on the radio?

[Dog_Log17]

It sounds like Mankato West represented 1A very well last night. My sources said they came out and gave a strong effort out hustling the rails. A 5-2 win against a quality northern team is a nice win for the Scarlets. Hopefully they can come out tonight skating hard and not imtimidated.

They will have their hands full with Duluth Marshall no doubt, but this young Scarlet team can skate with them if they hustle and play their game.

Superior Wisconsin vs Notre Dame of Green Bay 5:45pm Wednesday
Duluth Marshall vs Mankato West 8:00pm Wednesday

[Teak]

I believe ND is #1 in WI

Is that a Good News/Bad News joke?

Good News: they are ranked #1!

Bad News: in Wisconsin....

[Gretzky9]

It sounds like Mankato West represented 1A very well last night. My sources said they came out and gave a strong effort out hustling the rails. A 5-2 win against a quality northern team is a nice win for the Scarlets. Hopefully they can come out tonight skating hard and not imtimidated.

They will have their hands full with Duluth Marshall no doubt, but this young Scarlet team can skate with them if they hustle and play their game.

Superior Wisconsin vs Notre Dame of Green Bay 5:45pm Wednesday
Duluth Marshall vs Mankato West 8:00pm Wednesday

As I said in the 1A thread....I think your optimism will meet a dose of reality today as Marshall makes West their beotch...10-1 Marshall. Don't think the Thursday game will be much better. Proctor is not a good quality Northern team.

[Dog_Log17]

I respect your opinion; I agree that DM is a much stronger team. However, I think the Scarlet’s will earn some respect in this game and battle with the Hilltoppers. Your 10-1 prediction is ridiculous. MW will keep it closer than that. I am not making a prediction for this game. I will be happy with a strong effort from this young Scarlet team win or lose.

It sounds like Mankato West represented 1A very well last night. My sources said they came out and gave a strong effort out hustling the rails. A 5-2 win against a quality northern team is a nice win for the Scarlets. Hopefully they can come out tonight skating hard and not imtimidated.

They will have their hands full with Duluth Marshall no doubt, but this young Scarlet team can skate with them if they hustle and play their game.

Superior Wisconsin vs Notre Dame of Green Bay 5:45pm Wednesday
Duluth Marshall vs Mankato West 8:00pm Wednesday

As I said in the 1A thread....I think your optimism will meet a dose of reality today as Marshall makes West their beotch...10-1 Marshall. Don't think the Thursday game will be much better. Proctor is not a good quality Northern team.

[HShockeywatcher]

For those who have seen them play; how good is Marshall as a team?

I happened upon their stats the other day just because I was curious and noticed they seem to be a one man team. While 5 different people scored last night (which honestly I was surprised by) one player was involved in 4 of their 6 goals.

Of the 53 goals scored by the team, one player has scored 21 of them and assisted on another 11 of them. He has been involved in about 60% of the goals and scored about 40%.
There are 13 skaters who have scored a goal;
3 with 1 goal
4 with 2 goals
2 with 3 goals
2 with 4 goals
1 with 7 goals
1 with 21 goals
Not only is one person scoring most of the goals, there aren't many others scoring that many goals. You could also look at it as them spreading the puck around, which is good.

I am wondering if they are leaning on one player because he is simply that good and they don't have anyone else near his ability, if they would be close to as good without him, etc, etc. There are other teams that have good players who carry the team, but when they are hurt sometimes still carry on. Totally curious here, not trying to point fingers.

Thanks!

[Chalk_Talk]

For those who have seen them play; how good is Marshall as a team?

I happened upon their stats the other day just because I was curious and noticed they seem to be a one man team. While 5 different people scored last night (which honestly I was surprised by) one player was involved in 4 of their 6 goals.

Of the 53 goals scored by the team, one player has scored 21 of them and assisted on another 11 of them. He has been involved in about 60% of the goals and scored about 40%.
There are 13 skaters who have scored a goal;
3 with 1 goal
4 with 2 goals
2 with 3 goals
2 with 4 goals
1 with 7 goals
1 with 21 goals
Not only is one person scoring most of the goals, there aren't many others scoring that many goals. You could also look at it as them spreading the puck around, which is good.

I am wondering if they are leaning on one player because he is simply that good and they don't have anyone else near his ability, if they would be close to as good without him, etc, etc. There are other teams that have good players who carry the team, but when they are hurt sometimes still carry on. Totally curious here, not trying to point fingers.

Thanks!

Great Info

I love reading this kind of stuff. I know very little about them. Are they a young team?

I wish I could make these games, I would like to watch all these teams. There is a great deal of variety, Northern teams, southern teams, Wisc top team, and other Wisc teams.

Good Stuff HShockey

[Gretzky9]

I respect your opinion; I agree that DM is a much stronger team. However, I think the Scarlet’s will earn some respect in this game and battle with the Hilltoppers. Your 10-1 prediction is ridiculous. MW will keep it closer than that. I am not making a prediction for this game. I will be happy with a strong effort from this young Scarlet team win or lose.

It sounds like Mankato West represented 1A very well last night. My sources said they came out and gave a strong effort out hustling the rails. A 5-2 win against a quality northern team is a nice win for the Scarlets. Hopefully they can come out tonight skating hard and not imtimidated.

They will have their hands full with Duluth Marshall no doubt, but this young Scarlet team can skate with them if they hustle and play their game.

As I said in the 1A thread....I think your optimism will meet a dose of reality today as Marshall makes West their beotch...10-1 Marshall. Don't think the Thursday game will be much better. Proctor is not a good quality Northern team.

To be fair Dog....I kind of like West's defensemen so it probably will be closer than that....but the reality is West is not in the same camp as Marshall and those types of teams. West is down this year from the last few years. As said, their D group is pretty good. Their forwards are very average. Fox is hot and cold. When guys like Jutting are leading the team in scoring it should make a statement to such.

[Dog_Log17]

You’re right on the money Gretz. West is down this year and not an elite level team like DM. However, they have a great crop of sophomores who are developing very nicely and I see a promising future for the Scarlet’s. Their blue liners are the strongest part of their team. Bigham is VERY solid and Mettler has impressed me with his play as a sophomore.


I am hoping for a strong effort from MW tonight and perhaps they can gain some valuable experience against this very good DM team. They are the best team MW will play all year. I don’t think it’s out of the question to say that MW could knock off Lourdes this season.

I respect your opinion; I agree that DM is a much stronger team. However, I think the Scarlet’s will earn some respect in this game and battle with the Hilltoppers. Your 10-1 prediction is ridiculous. MW will keep it closer than that. I am not making a prediction for this game. I will be happy with a strong effort from this young Scarlet team win or lose.

As I said in the 1A thread....I think your optimism will meet a dose of reality today as Marshall makes West their beotch...10-1 Marshall. Don't think the Thursday game will be much better. Proctor is not a good quality Northern team.

To be fair Dog....I kind of like West's defensemen so it probably will be closer than that....but the reality is West is not in the same camp as Marshall and those types of teams. West is down this year from the last few years. As said, their D group is pretty good. Their forwards are very average. Fox is hot and cold. When guys like Jutting are leading the team in scoring it should make a statement to such.

[JSR]

Notre Dame is definitely the best team in WI. The Superior game was a close game but mind you Notre Dame played them with their back up goalie and one of their best players did not play in this game and their best forward is out for the season and they still are the best team in WI and still won the game. They also have arguably the best player in WI in Badger recruit Tim Davison (he is one of their defensemen). It'll be fun to see how ND can do in the championship game against a good MN team.

[Chalk_Talk]

Any updates on todays games?

[rainier]

Hub has 1-0 ND after 1.

[Hockey North]

Duluth Marshall 5
Notre Dame 3

Marshall looking good again

[Chalk_Talk]

Superior 3
Mankato West 2
In ot

[The Enlightened One]

For those who have seen them play; how good is Marshall as a team?

I happened upon their stats the other day just because I was curious and noticed they seem to be a one man team. While 5 different people scored last night (which honestly I was surprised by) one player was involved in 4 of their 6 goals.

Of the 53 goals scored by the team, one player has scored 21 of them and assisted on another 11 of them. He has been involved in about 60% of the goals and scored about 40%.
There are 13 skaters who have scored a goal;
3 with 1 goal
4 with 2 goals
2 with 3 goals
2 with 4 goals
1 with 7 goals
1 with 21 goals
Not only is one person scoring most of the goals, there aren't many others scoring that many goals. You could also look at it as them spreading the puck around, which is good.

I am wondering if they are leaning on one player because he is simply that good and they don't have anyone else near his ability, if they would be close to as good without him, etc, etc. There are other teams that have good players who carry the team, but when they are hurt sometimes still carry on. Totally curious here, not trying to point fingers.

Thanks!

They are very good, not great, but very good.

They have a couple of kids who are their main work horses on the ice, one at D and one at Center and then a bunch of good supporting cast type skaters. I have seen a few of their games and the thing that you notice is that they know each other and where they are going to be. They have a couple of those kids who are technically out of position (a left winger who finds himself all alone in front of the net on the right side to pick up a rebound and put it away) but when they go out they are in the right place at the right time with their sticks on the ice. A very nice team who has those two bigger dogs and then several kids who are not quite as good, who are very unselfish and who seemed to be tuned into "the plan". A well oiled machine for the most part that rarely runs rough with a couple of those supporting cast kids who are willing and able to step up and get it done.

They play a game that resembles a cities team's game. They have a couple of kids (one in particular) who will hit anything and every thing that moves and then some of of the kids who are willing to rub you off into the wall and who are way more than willing to go into the corner with you and will (generally speaking) come out with the puck. You get the feeling that although they would rather kill you with their speed, passing and puck movement that if you want to get rough they don't mind it that way either. All in all they are a very fast team and work very well as they transition into the zone and are good at back checking their way back into the zone although I have seen their D play a little too soft sometimes and let the other team carry the puck quite a ways into the zone before they meet enough resistance to have to dump the puck or throw a shot at the net.

They are sort of a Jeckle and Hyde split on the penalties. I have seen them play when they have had a couple of those little dumb penalties for interference, holding, tripping or etc and that is about it and then have seen them in action when it looked like USA Hockey was on site with a film crew making a film called "101 dumb things to do on the ice". It seems like once they "snap" they go all the way and do it right to their detriment.

With all of that said they are in for a major test next week. Having seen Hermantown play this year a couple of times as well as Marshall play I think that this game on the 5th is going to be a big challenge for both teams. I think that Hermantown has higher highs as far as talent goes but might not be a deep across the forward lines so Marshall has a slight edge there and on the other hand nobody has D like Hermantown does both from the stand point of depth and talent so Hermantown has an edge there. Both teams are very good at controlling the access to their goalies and rarely give up breakaways or bad odd man rushes. For that reason goalie performance analysis is speculation at best which will make for an interesting game. I get the feeling that both of the goalies will feel the heat from the fire during that game which should give a good indication of how well either of them will do when they get to the cities and play teams like STA who is deep and strong enough to get into and onto your goalie to see how he stacks up. The score for this game has the potential to look more like a basketball score than a hockey score but I think in the end that Hermantown's D is going to be able to take enough of the edge off of Marshall's forwards so Hermantown will win it. Not sure where the game will be played but since they are both from Duluth (yeah, I know, but close) both groups of kids will have played enough in each others arena and are close enough together so that both teams will have a full house of fans which should negate the "home field" advantage for either one of them.