Where did most of these St Thomas kids play their yth hockey

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:23 am

Northsider wrote:
Walk into any Catholic Church on Sunday morning in Oakdale, North St Paul, WBL, etc on a Sunday Morning and when the locals discuss "their" team, they aren't talking about Tartan, North, or White Bear. My priest is a huge Hill fan and routinely brings the team up during the homily. He also comes and does masses at school. Other churches in the area are the same and a large chunk of the parishes went to HM. Hill hockey's kind of a big deal.

I know Cretin has a similar community feeling in Highland Park and Mac-Groveland. I don't know about the others though.
You must be smelling too much incense then. Come to my church, and you will see TG, HM, SW, STA, and WBL letter jackets. But bring up a conversation about "their" team, and it's not even close...the BEARS!

Does your priest also write for the HM Pioneer Press?

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:03 am

Howie wrote:
DotaDangler wrote:
celly93 wrote: I find it interesting how people think that the only justifiable way that a person would play hockey for a private school is if they lived next door to it. People don't go to St. Thomas, the only school of its kind in Minnesota, because it is convenient. I go to BSM (yes, I realize that according to high school hockey fans, that makes me a terrible person) and probably only 15% of the student body lives in St. Louis Park. Why should the hockey team be any different?
I went to STA, just a little joke. I agree with you though, STA was garbage at hockey ten years ago, and the first wave of good players did not go there because of hockey, but many people are too dumb to understand this. And if a hockey player is from the area, they were obviously recruited shortly after birth when the parents were looking for a house.

So you are saying Jordan Schroeder did not go to STA for hockey as an 8th grader? Would you agree that this was put STA on the hockey map? If so, please explain to me why he left STA for the NTDP as a sophomore, then left the U of M as a sophomore to go pro? In addition, where did the last 9 waves of players come from, did the Cadets not hire Vannelli to build a strong program 10-11 years ago? Wow,

I do not have the time or energy to double check my yearly facts, so I will be the first to admit if I am off with some things by a year or so.

02-03 STA ended the season with 3 wins.
The St Thomas Ice Arena was complete for the 03-04 season, when the Cadets had two players transfer to the school who were not on the school's team the year before. I believe one of them had attended previously, but I am not sure. That year they had one section win and finished two games over .500.
04-05 was when Shroeder and Lee joined the program. They beat Virginia in the quarters then got shut out by Warroad and lost to Marshall, earning them 4th place.
05-06 they won state.

So no, he was not apart of the first wave of hockey players that went there and improved the program. Sure, he probably did attend mainly for hockey purposes, as many kids around the state do in many different sports. The comment was that the first wave of good players didn't go there for hockey, which is true, not that one specific player didn't, which would be false.

The X · Post by **The X** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:23 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote:
DotaDangler wrote: I went to STA, just a little joke. I agree with you though, STA was garbage at hockey ten years ago, and the first wave of good players did not go there because of hockey, but many people are too dumb to understand this. And if a hockey player is from the area, they were obviously recruited shortly after birth when the parents were looking for a house.

So you are saying Jordan Schroeder did not go to STA for hockey as an 8th grader? Would you agree that this was put STA on the hockey map? If so, please explain to me why he left STA for the NTDP as a sophomore, then left the U of M as a sophomore to go pro? In addition, where did the last 9 waves of players come from, did the Cadets not hire Vannelli to build a strong program 10-11 years ago? Wow,
I do not have the time or energy to double check my yearly facts, so I will be the first to admit if I am off with some things by a year or so.

02-03 STA ended the season with 3 wins.
The St Thomas Ice Arena was complete for the 03-04 season, when the Cadets had two players transfer to the school who were not on the school's team the year before. I believe one of them had attended previously, but I am not sure. That year they had one section win and finished two games over .500.
04-05 was when Shroeder and Lee joined the program. They beat Virginia in the quarters then got shut out by Warroad and lost to Marshall, earning them 4th place.
05-06 they won state.

So no, he was not apart of the first wave of hockey players that went there and improved the program. Sure, he probably did attend mainly for hockey purposes, as many kids around the state do in many different sports. The comment was that the first wave of good players didn't go there for hockey, which is true, not that one specific player didn't, which would be false.

How many aliases do you have HSHW, I was responding to dotadangler guy? $\:D/$ Ok 04-05 then, point being that was when the hockey world knew who STA was. I understand they had teams prior to the arrival of Schroeder. What is the starting grade for their students, 9th? If so, how does an 8th grader get accepted? Just wondering, not familiar with the STA policies.

longdistancespectator8 · Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:28 am

Howie you are completely right.

Dotadangler you are wrong.

Jordan Schroeder started the St. Thomas dynasty for the most part and he left to play there because the head coach at then just Lakeville did not allow him to try out for the varsity team as an 8th grader so he took his talents to st thomas

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:30 am

If I'm not mistaken Shroeder was being shopped around as an eighth grader, SSM said no to a guaranteed spot on the prep team, Schmitz said no to playing at Lakeville and STA was only to happy to take him. The rest as they say is history.

The X · Post by **The X** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:39 am

longdistancespectator8 wrote:Howie you are completely right.

Dotadangler you are wrong.

Jordan Schroeder started the St. Thomas dynasty for the most part and he left to play there because the head coach at then just Lakeville did not allow him to try out for the varsity team as an 8th grader so he took his talents to st thomas

Ok, did not know that.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:43 am

Howie wrote:What is the starting grade for their students, 9th? If so, how does an 8th grader get accepted? Just wondering, not familiar with the STA policies.

St Thomas Academy has grades 7-12.
So, St Thomas is blamed for allowing a student at their school to play varsity hockey instead of blaming a coach for not allowing a student to play?

So many interesting, unconventional ideas get brought up in these threads

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:44 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote:What is the starting grade for their students, 9th? If so, how does an 8th grader get accepted? Just wondering, not familiar with the STA policies.
St Thomas Academy has grades 7-12.
So, St Thomas is blamed for allowing a student at their school to play varsity hockey instead of blaming a coach for not allowing a student to play?

So many interesting, unconventional ideas get brought up in these threads

No way!

The X · Post by **The X** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:51 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote:What is the starting grade for their students, 9th? If so, how does an 8th grader get accepted? Just wondering, not familiar with the STA policies.
St Thomas Academy has grades 7-12.
So, St Thomas is blamed for allowing a student at their school to play varsity hockey instead of blaming a coach for not allowing a student to play?

So many interesting, unconventional ideas get brought up in these threads

I dont think anybody was blaming STA for that, especially me. If you read my post it clearly stated I did not know their policy.

Keep your blue and white glasses on tight.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:05 pm

Howie wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote:What is the starting grade for their students, 9th? If so, how does an 8th grader get accepted? Just wondering, not familiar with the STA policies.
St Thomas Academy has grades 7-12.
So, St Thomas is blamed for allowing a student at their school to play varsity hockey instead of blaming a coach for not allowing a student to play?

So many interesting, unconventional ideas get brought up in these threads
I dont think anybody was blaming STA for that, especially me. If you read my post it clearly stated I did not know their policy. Keep your blue and white glasses on tight.

No, you are not. What has been thrown around in the past is him being recruited away and then starting the evil empire in Mendota Heights. Information in this thread makes it seem more like he was pushed away and that had that not happened he and his family would've enjoyed more time there and his brother may be playing for them now.

The X · Post by **The X** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:15 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: St Thomas Academy has grades 7-12.
So, St Thomas is blamed for allowing a student at their school to play varsity hockey instead of blaming a coach for not allowing a student to play?

So many interesting, unconventional ideas get brought up in these threads
I dont think anybody was blaming STA for that, especially me. If you read my post it clearly stated I did not know their policy. Keep your blue and white glasses on tight.
No, you are not. What has been thrown around in the past is him being recruited away and then starting the evil empire in Mendota Heights. Information in this thread makes it seem more like he was pushed away and that had that not happened he and his family would've enjoyed more time there and his brother may be playing for them now.

Ok gotcha. I thought your comment was directed at me.

lnhsshaun · Post by **lnhsshaun** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:25 pm

Lakeville south would probably win the state tournament if they had all the st thomas players and players that went to ntdp... they would have reid shroedor and kroska( arguably the top 3 players at st thomas) and mcneily at goalie as welll as kyle osterberg..

PoniesDad45 · Post by **PoniesDad45** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:30 pm

I know two of them played on Stillwater's A Bantam team. Why they put kids on their A Bantam team that are not even Stillwater HS kids I have no idea. As far as I'm concerned that is what the B1 team is for.

genosniper · Post by **genosniper** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:36 pm

Stillwater probably puts them on the A team so they can win a few games. Keeps Housley's hopes up.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:01 pm

PoniesDad45 wrote:I know two of them played on Stillwater's A Bantam team. Why they put kids on their A Bantam team that are not even Stillwater HS kids I have no idea. As far as I'm concerned that is what the B1 team is for.

Two STA kids?

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:19 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote:
DotaDangler wrote: I went to STA, just a little joke. I agree with you though, STA was garbage at hockey ten years ago, and the first wave of good players did not go there because of hockey, but many people are too dumb to understand this. And if a hockey player is from the area, they were obviously recruited shortly after birth when the parents were looking for a house.

So you are saying Jordan Schroeder did not go to STA for hockey as an 8th grader? Would you agree that this was put STA on the hockey map? If so, please explain to me why he left STA for the NTDP as a sophomore, then left the U of M as a sophomore to go pro? In addition, where did the last 9 waves of players come from, did the Cadets not hire Vannelli to build a strong program 10-11 years ago? Wow,
I do not have the time or energy to double check my yearly facts, so I will be the first to admit if I am off with some things by a year or so.

02-03 STA ended the season with 3 wins.
The St Thomas Ice Arena was complete for the 03-04 season, when the Cadets had two players transfer to the school who were not on the school's team the year before. I believe one of them had attended previously, but I am not sure. That year they had one section win and finished two games over .500.
04-05 was when Shroeder and Lee joined the program. They beat Virginia in the quarters then got shut out by Warroad and lost to Marshall, earning them 4th place.
05-06 they won state.

So no, he was not apart of the first wave of hockey players that went there and improved the program. Sure, he probably did attend mainly for hockey purposes, as many kids around the state do in many different sports. The comment was that the first wave of good players didn't go there for hockey, which is true, not that one specific player didn't, which would be false.

Two win season and then in the state tournament two years later... ? This actually makes me sick. Community public programs work for decades for the hope of maybe someday sending a group to the state tournament and STA does THIS in class A? Anyone from STA that is proud of their fake plastic trophies can put them you know where.

dherman8 · Post by **dherman8** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:35 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
Howie wrote: So you are saying Jordan Schroeder did not go to STA for hockey as an 8th grader? Would you agree that this was put STA on the hockey map? If so, please explain to me why he left STA for the NTDP as a sophomore, then left the U of M as a sophomore to go pro? In addition, where did the last 9 waves of players come from, did the Cadets not hire Vannelli to build a strong program 10-11 years ago? Wow,
I do not have the time or energy to double check my yearly facts, so I will be the first to admit if I am off with some things by a year or so.

02-03 STA ended the season with 3 wins.
The St Thomas Ice Arena was complete for the 03-04 season, when the Cadets had two players transfer to the school who were not on the school's team the year before. I believe one of them had attended previously, but I am not sure. That year they had one section win and finished two games over .500.
04-05 was when Shroeder and Lee joined the program. They beat Virginia in the quarters then got shut out by Warroad and lost to Marshall, earning them 4th place.
05-06 they won state.

So no, he was not apart of the first wave of hockey players that went there and improved the program. Sure, he probably did attend mainly for hockey purposes, as many kids around the state do in many different sports. The comment was that the first wave of good players didn't go there for hockey, which is true, not that one specific player didn't, which would be false.
Two win season and then in the state tournament two years later... ? This actually makes me sick. Community public programs work for decades for the hope of maybe someday sending a group to the state tournament and STA does THIS in class A? Anyone from STA that is proud of their fake plastic trophies can put them you know where.

Amen. But hey, at least we know their players are from Mendota Heights.....Err...... Lakeville.....Err.....Minnesota.

GreekChurch · Post by **GreekChurch** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:01 pm

PoniesDad45 wrote:I know two of them played on Stillwater's A Bantam team. Why they put kids on their A Bantam team that are not even Stillwater HS kids I have no idea. As far as I'm concerned that is what the B1 team is for.

Master Recruiter · Post by **Master Recruiter** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:08 pm

GreekChurch wrote:
PoniesDad45 wrote:I know two of them played on Stillwater's A Bantam team. Why they put kids on their A Bantam team that are not even Stillwater HS kids I have no idea. As far as I'm concerned that is what the B1 team is for.

whats wrong with his statement. One of the main goals is to prepare kids for the cities high school program.