Pioneer press no love for bears?

iLLuminati_666 · Post by **iLLuminati_666** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:44 pm

Star Tribune had a huge picture on there sports section thismorning and the pionner press has nothing. Thoughts?

mnpuckster · Post by **mnpuckster** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:46 pm

My guess is the game ended too late for print.

iLLuminati_666 · Post by **iLLuminati_666** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:50 pm

Touche. we shall find out tomarrow then

mnpuckster wrote:My guess is the game ended too late for print.

WBLHockeyfan04 · Post by **WBLHockeyfan04** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:51 pm

They already made it clear the other day that the Pioneers were going to state after they beat Roseville... I still can't believe Wayzata beat EP 6-3, I thought it would have been a closer game.

h-m fan · Post by **h-m fan** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:58 am

Star Trib is minneapolis based. Hill was the biggest threat to edina and EP in the state tournament (minneapolis suburbs). It wasn't that the Pioneer press wasn't giving love to white bear, the star trib was just giving love to a good possiblility of another state title coming their way. I may be going out a limb but its just my inkling. Having said this, White Bear deserved more recognition from the press for their accomplishment!

observer · Post by **observer** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:36 am

The StarTribune is just trying to sell papers on the east side in their pursuit of becoming the only paper in the metro.

Jack Sparrow · Post by **Jack Sparrow** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:58 am

The Pioneer Press sports section has fallen off the face of the planet the last couple of years - does not surprise me.

GreekChurch · Post by **GreekChurch** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:24 am

Jack Sparrow wrote:The Pioneer Press sports section has fallen off the face of the planet the last couple of years - does not surprise me.

Yeah have to agree - its brutal, but they have coverage od Lindsey Vonn every other day, like anyone really gives a rip

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:48 am

Why would you buy a paper, read it all online.

chester1991 · Post by **chester1991** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:12 am

The days of the Pioneer Press having a 12 page State Hockey tournament pullout are over. The one high school writer for the Pionner Press was at the state wrestling tourney not at the section finals. I'm just happythat they had the right score. I hope that they remeber that the tournament is this week. I also noticed that they had Eagan record at 17-6-2. They forgot about the three section wins are added to the overall record. Brutal.

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:01 pm

GreekChurch wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:The Pioneer Press sports section has fallen off the face of the planet the last couple of years - does not surprise me.
Yeah have to agree - its brutal, but they have coverage od Lindsey Vonn every other day, like anyone really gives a rip

I didn't even think the Pioneer Press covered high school sports anymore.

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:03 pm

chester1991 wrote:The days of the Pioneer Press having a 12 page State Hockey tournament pullout are over. The one high school writer for the Pionner Press was at the state wrestling tourney not at the section finals. I'm just happythat they had the right score. I hope that they remeber that the tournament is this week. I also noticed that they had Eagan record at 17-6-2. They forgot about the three section wins are added to the overall record. Brutal.

The MSHSL also had Eagan's record wrong.

clutterbuck22 · Post by **clutterbuck22** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:36 pm

wbmd wrote:
chester1991 wrote:The days of the Pioneer Press having a 12 page State Hockey tournament pullout are over. The one high school writer for the Pionner Press was at the state wrestling tourney not at the section finals. I'm just happythat they had the right score. I hope that they remeber that the tournament is this week. I also noticed that they had Eagan record at 17-6-2. They forgot about the three section wins are added to the overall record. Brutal.
The MSHSL also had Eagan's record wrong.

I believe that is the coaches job to update the MSHSL site. I know it is for football.

wblhockeyfan8 · Post by **wblhockeyfan8** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:40 pm

clutterbuck22 wrote:
wbmd wrote:
chester1991 wrote:The days of the Pioneer Press having a 12 page State Hockey tournament pullout are over. The one high school writer for the Pionner Press was at the state wrestling tourney not at the section finals. I'm just happythat they had the right score. I hope that they remeber that the tournament is this week. I also noticed that they had Eagan record at 17-6-2. They forgot about the three section wins are added to the overall record. Brutal.
The MSHSL also had Eagan's record wrong.
I believe that is the coaches job to update the MSHSL site. I know it is for football.

You have to submit your own scores for Soccer as well.

iLLuminati_666 · Post by **iLLuminati_666** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:47 pm

On hockey day they had a freakin front page article on the pioneers bus ride...

wbmd wrote:
GreekChurch wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:The Pioneer Press sports section has fallen off the face of the planet the last couple of years - does not surprise me.
Yeah have to agree - its brutal, but they have coverage od Lindsey Vonn every other day, like anyone really gives a rip
I didn't even think the Pioneer Press covered high school sports anymore.

firewagonhockey · Post by **firewagonhockey** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:42 pm

this rivalry is pretty damn great. Hill-Murray dominated this game and owned White Bear all night. Like Herb Brooks once said "if we play these guys 10 times they probably beat us 9 times...........but not tonight."

I've never seen a game like this game. HM blew this big time. Don't get me wrong, WBL is a decent team, but not great. HM is so much better it made this upset truly unique. The paper should have covered it!!!

Weekend_Warrior · Post by **Weekend_Warrior** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:15 pm

firewagonhockey wrote:this rivalry is pretty damn great. Hill-Murray dominated this game and owned White Bear all night. Like Herb Brooks once said "if we play these guys 10 times they probably beat us 9 times...........but not tonight."

I've never seen a game like this game. HM blew this big time. Don't get me wrong, WBL is a decent team, but not great. HM is so much better it made this upset truly unique. The paper should have covered it!!!

Owned White Bear all night? Dude, you need glasses. The Bears tore Hill-Murray apart! The score was 4-1 going into the third. I think the Bears even killed like 2 or 3 penalties in there, too. It wasn't a bad game for Hill. They just got outplayed by a stronger team. Maybe they weren't this strong all year. But they are now, and that's all that matters.

GreekChurch · Post by **GreekChurch** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:13 pm

Weekend_Warrior wrote:
firewagonhockey wrote:this rivalry is pretty damn great. Hill-Murray dominated this game and owned White Bear all night. Like Herb Brooks once said "if we play these guys 10 times they probably beat us 9 times...........but not tonight."

I've never seen a game like this game. HM blew this big time. Don't get me wrong, WBL is a decent team, but not great. HM is so much better it made this upset truly unique. The paper should have covered it!!!
Owned White Bear all night? Dude, you need glasses. The Bears tore Hill-Murray apart! The score was 4-1 going into the third. I think the Bears even killed like 2 or 3 penalties in there, too. It wasn't a bad game for Hill. They just got outplayed by a stronger team. Maybe they weren't this strong all year. But they are now, and that's all that matters.

I have to agree with firewagon, Hill murray blew it. Don't kid yourself, it was a bad game for Hill, from Goaltending on out. They started flat and paid for it. They came back from 4 -1 ( something White Bear never would have done against Hill ) but go to Ot anything can happen. White Bear played their best Hockey, Hill did not. To say White Bear is a stronger team is absurd though.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:18 pm

Agreed.

WB just capitalized on their scoring chances and HM didn't. Period.

Weekend_Warrior · Post by **Weekend_Warrior** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:04 pm

GreekChurch wrote:To say White Bear is a stronger team is absurd though.

How is it absurd? They only had 5 losses this year - all to good teams. And so far, 2 of those 5 teams (Stillwater and Hill) they have come back and beat in the 2nd game. They now have the chance to beat another one of those teams - Duluth East - on Thursday. And if Blaine beats Edina, which I don't think will happen.. but if it does, they would have a chance at beating another one of those teams they lost to.

It wasn't a bad game for Hill. It just appeared that way because they faced a better team. I'm sure you'll never admit it, but it's true.

I saw Hill against St. Thomas the last game of the season. They were definitely a great team, but certainly not unbeatable. White Bear proved that. So give them credit and get over it.

firewagonhockey · Post by **firewagonhockey** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:33 pm

weekend,
I have better than 20/20 vision. You might want to take off your rose colored glasses. I appreciate your excitement for your bears, but plain and simple White Bear didn't control any point of the game after it was 2 - 0. They had a hard time putting 2 or 3 passes in a row together and Hill-Murray played keep away for 2 1/2 periods and into the overtimes. Hill-Murray blew this one more than White Bear stole it. Like I said, "these teams play 10 times, Hill wins 9 times.............just not that night.

The best thing that happened to WBL is the drubbing they sustained in December by the Pioneers. The coaches saw the light and made the call for bottling up the middle and trapping. Easy call when overmatched.
If I went 14 or so games without beating a team this would have been my selling point to the team too.

My main point was that this was a big upset between rivals and deserved some ink in the paper.

The Gumper · Post by **The Gumper** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:40 pm

firewagonhockey wrote:
My main point was that this was a big upset between rivals and deserved some ink in the paper.

I agree. I suspect the game ended too late on Friday night to get anything in Saturday's print edition (other than the score in agate type). I realize by Sunday that Friday's sports news is old news, but as it's the ST. PAUL newspaper it might have at least run a brief item and maybe a small photo.

It didn't even need to be a 1/4 page head shot like they ran of Shaughnessy this morning.

Weekend_Warrior · Post by **Weekend_Warrior** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:34 am

firewagonhockey wrote:I appreciate your excitement for your bears, but plain and simple White Bear didn't control any point of the game after it was 2 - 0. They had a hard time putting 2 or 3 passes in a row together and Hill-Murray played keep away for 2 1/2 periods and into the overtimes.

Ok, now I know you were watching a different game than me. The shots on net by both teams were close, yet White Bear was up 4-1 going into the 3rd period. How is that controlling the game by HM?

The only reason it seemed like Hill was controlling part of the game and were "playing keep away" at times was because, like I mentioned earlier.. WBL had taken a few stupid penalties and were forced to kill those off. Also, towards the end of the 2nd period, and going into the 3rd period.. WBL started laying back and playing defense, almost as if they were scared. Instead of staying offensively aggressive and trying to carry the puck all the way into the Hill zone, they started dumping it and waiting at the red line for the Pioneers to grab it (like they were on the kill, but they weren't), bring it back into their zone and allow them to pass the puck around and take shots at their tender until they missed or were blocked (again, like they were on the kill).

Why they elected to do this? I dunno. I'm still confused by it. Obviously, this was a coaching mistake that almost cost them the game.

But anyway... no way. The Pioneers did not control ANY part of that game. If they had, they would have won. Schletty was very good in net and made some key saves but certainly not great by any stretch of the imagination.

I dunno. I'm just tired of people treating this game like a fluke. I'm not a Bears fan. I actually live in Minneapolis. And in the game I saw, HM got their butts kicked by a well-tuned hockey team. It's just White Bear got a little nervous/scared for a bit there and allowed themselves to be scored on. It wasn't like the Pioneers just suddenly woke up and started bombing on WBL. The Bears went to sleep. But thankfully they were able to get a lucky goal (yes, I said it) in the 2nd OT to win it.

A lucky goal in the end. But WBL still deserved to win that game

MedleyWR · Post by **MedleyWR** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:31 am

firewagonhockey wrote:this rivalry is pretty damn great. Hill-Murray dominated this game and owned White Bear all night. Like Herb Brooks once said "if we play these guys 10 times they probably beat us 9 times...........but not tonight."

I've never seen a game like this game. HM blew this big time. Don't get me wrong, WBL is a decent team, but not great. HM is so much better it made this upset truly unique. The paper should have covered it!!!

Final SOG count was 33 for HM, 31 for WBL. Yet HM got 5 powerplays compared to only 2 for the Bears. And don't get me started on how bad some of the calls were. David makes a beautiful check at center ice with the game tied and 9 seconds left in the 3rd and Stevie Wonder (the ref) calls it tripping? Or, earlier when HM was on the powerplay, Jansen intercepts the puck, is on his was to a break away, tripped from behind and no call! Unbelievable!)
Other than the one sided penalty calls resulting in HM powerplays, the Bears were not in any way dominated.

formerlybackofnet · Post by **formerlybackofnet** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:41 am

MedleyWR wrote:
firewagonhockey wrote:this rivalry is pretty damn great. Hill-Murray dominated this game and owned White Bear all night. Like Herb Brooks once said "if we play these guys 10 times they probably beat us 9 times...........but not tonight."

I've never seen a game like this game. HM blew this big time. Don't get me wrong, WBL is a decent team, but not great. HM is so much better it made this upset truly unique. The paper should have covered it!!!
Final SOG count was 33 for HM, 31 for WBL. Yet HM got 5 powerplays compared to only 2 for the Bears. And don't get me started on how bad some of the calls were. David makes a beautiful check at center ice with the game tied and 9 seconds left in the 3rd and Stevie Wonder (the ref) calls it tripping? Or, earlier when HM was on the powerplay, Jansen intercepts the puck, is on his was to a break away, tripped from behind and no call! Unbelievable!)
Other than the one sided penalty calls resulting in HM powerplays, the Bears were not in any way dominated.

I agree, after watching Roseville skate with Hill for 2 1/2 periods, and White Bear beating them, I would have to say that even though Hill is a great team, they were overrated.