Minnesota Made NHL Players

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:32 am

govies wrote:Paul Holmgren...flyers you remember player and coach

Paul Holmgren 500 138 171 309 1600 1975-1984 9 F 12/2/1955 St. Paul, MN

the 500 is games..1600 pim

won a few cups on the ice and behind the bench

oh yeah herb should count too

Notice the topic is "Minnesota Made NHL PLAYERS", not "coaches". Herb was a decent HS player and OK college player. Not even in the discussion when you consider the best of all time.

EHSHack · Post by **EHSHack** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:32 am

muckandgrind wrote:
govies wrote:Paul Holmgren...flyers you remember player and coach

Paul Holmgren 500 138 171 309 1600 1975-1984 9 F 12/2/1955 St. Paul, MN

the 500 is games..1600 pim

won a few cups on the ice and behind the bench

oh yeah herb should count too
Notice the topic is "Minnesota Made NHL PLAYERS", not "coaches". Herb was a decent HS player and OK college player. Not even in the discussion when you consider the best of all time.

Whoops.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:30 am

What does bernie have to do with Housley ?? They graduated from highschool the same year? Most, like 99% of Mn pro's dodn't even know who bernie is. [What About Tom Chorski.]

Govie · Post by **Govie** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:26 am

govies wrote:Paul Holmgren...flyers you remember player and coach

Paul Holmgren 500 138 171 309 1600 1975-1984 9 F 12/2/1955 St. Paul, MN

the 500 is games..1600 pim

won a few cups on the ice and behind the bench

oh yeah herb should count too

Herb is my idol. Not only was I born and raised in the same neighborhood as Brooks, I also attended the same HS and even drink (to this day) in his favorite bar on the ES.

One of the great American hockey legends of all time - maybe the greatest!

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:33 am

What bar ? Yannerally's, Governers?

Govie · Post by **Govie** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:20 pm

old goalie85 wrote:What bar ? Yannerally's, Governers?

Yanerelli's? NO! That place is a complete sh-thole!

Vogel's.

BSUBeaver · Post by **BSUBeaver** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:34 pm

Joel Otto from Elk River and Bemidji State. Won the NCAA DII Title in 1984, was the DII Hobey Baker winner in 1984, won the Stanley Cup in 1989 with Calgary and the World Championships in 1996. Also played in the 1998 Olympics.

Mark Messier was often silenced when he went up against Otto.

http://flameslegends.blogspot.com/2006/ ... -otto.html

govies · Post by **govies** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:02 pm

herb also grabbed two back to back ncaa I titles with only homegrown talent..oh yeah he got to wear a silver medal as a plyr from olympic squad and won a gold as a coach and a stanley cup i think..he sent more "mn" plyrs to the pro's than you can omagine..yes sorry it was a bit off topic//housley i dont think grad hs.jumped to pros..guess i am a bit one sided sorry i also grew up in herbs neighbothood..he taught me how to skate....but paul holmgren was a great pro..born in st.paul..not the range..lol..went to harding won on ice and behind bench

vogels is ok

i know that old goalie i think at least by name and we passed in the hallways

Govie · Post by **Govie** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:03 pm

govies wrote:herb also grabbed two back to back ncaa I titles with only homegrown talent..oh yeah he got to wear a silver medal as a plyr from olympic squad and won a gold as a coach and a stanley cup i think..he sent more "mn" plyrs to the pro's than you can omagine..yes sorry it was a bit off topic//housley i dont think grad hs.jumped to pros..guess i am a bit one sided sorry i also grew up in herbs neighbothood..he taught me how to skate....but paul holmgren was a great pro..born in st.paul..not the range..lol..went to harding won on ice and behind bench

vogels is ok

i know that old goalie i think at least by name and we passed in the hallways

Yeah, Vogel's isn't anything special but it was Herb's favorite hangout. Definitely the neighborhood can get a little rough in spots over that way for sure.

One of my best friends went out with Herb's niece for a while. I wish he were still here.

As far as MN tallent goes, I'd like everyone here say that a squad made up of only MN tallent wouldn't have at least challenged for hardware in the Vancouver Games:

1 1975 Jamie Langenbrunner F 1012 234 393 627 793 57 67 15 55 0.231 0.388 0.620 0:47
2 1976 Matt Cullen F 933 180 315 495 412 -35 48 13 24 0.193 0.338 0.531 0:26
3 1973 Jason Blake F 806 201 264 465 443 -18 46 9 27 0.249 0.328 0.577 0:33
4 1984 Zach Parise F 419 163 178 341 145 62 44 2 34 0.389 0.425 0.814 0:21
5 1984 David Backes F 337 91 106 197 488 3 19 2 9 0.270 0.315 0.585 1:27
6 1981 Paul Martin D 459 29 155 184 122 61 13 0 6 0.063 0.338 0.401 0:16
7 1980 Jordan Leopold D 492 51 116 167 220 -23 19 1 7 0.104 0.236 0.339 0:27
8 1982 Keith Ballard D 440 35 119 154 440 -6 7 4 4 0.080 0.270 0.350 1:00
9 1985 Dustin Byfuglien D/F 318 72 80 152 317 -15 23 0 18 0.226 0.252 0.478 0:60
10 1983 Tom Gilbert D 315 29 103 132 86 -25 8 1 2 0.092 0.327 0.419 0:16
11 1986 Blake Wheeler F 220 49 59 108 131 40 6 3 7 0.223 0.268 0.491 0:36
12 1988 Kyle Okposo F 167 41 64 105 96 -19 14 0 9 0.246 0.383 0.629 0:34
13 1985 Alex Goligoski D 176 23 67 90 68 33 10 0 4 0.131 0.381 0.511 0:23
14 1988 Erik Johnson D 202 20 70 90 144 -18 11 1 7 0.099 0.347 0.446 0:43
15 1986 Matt Niskanen D 276 16 66 82 136 -6 4 0 2 0.058 0.239 0.297 0:30
16 1978 Toby Petersen F 334 30 43 73 42 -35 1 5 2 0.090 0.129 0.219 0:08
17 1981 Andrew Alberts D 381 6 45 51 420 4 0 1 0 0.016 0.118 0.134 1:06
18 1981 Jeff Taffe F 175 21 23 44 40 -22 8 0 2 0.120 0.131 0.251 0:14
19 1984 Mark Stuart D 283 13 27 40 284 37 0 0 3 0.046 0.095 0.141 1:00
20 1986 Jack Hillen D 153 7 32 39 94 -18 1 0 0 0.046 0.209 0.255 0:37
21 1981 Matt Hendricks F 115 16 18 34 171 0 1 1 3 0.139 0.157 0.296 1:29
22 1990 Derek Stepan F 58 15 17 32 16 1 2 0 2 0.259 0.293 0.552 0:17
23 1983 Ryan Carter F 170 12 20 32 163 -3 0 0 3 0.071 0.118 0.188 0:58
24 1988 Jamie McBain D 72 7 23 30 24 1 2 0 1 0.097 0.319 0.417 0:20
25 1984 Mike Lundin D 208 3 27 30 42 -14 0 0 0 0.014 0.130 0.144 0:12
26 1987 Dan Sexton F 73 12 16 28 20 -8 3 0 0 0.164 0.219 0.384 0:16
27 1987 Brian Lee D 107 4 14 18 69 -9 1 0 1 0.037 0.131 0.168 0:39
28 1982 Colin Stuart F 54 8 5 13 26 6 0 4 1 0.148 0.093 0.241 0:29
29 1987 Justin Braun D 15 1 8 9 0 0 1 0 0 0.067 0.533 0.600 0:00
30 1987 Mike Sauer D 55 1 5 6 50 7 1 0 1 0.018 0.091 0.109 0:55
31 1984 Matt Smaby D 116 0 6 6 106 -20 0 0 0 0.000 0.052 0.052 0:55
32 1987 Ryan Stoa F 18 4 1 5 4 -6 0 0 1 0.222 0.056 0.278 0:13
33 1983 Clay Wilson D 18 1 2 3 4 -5 0 0 0 0.056 0.111 0.167 0:13
34 1991 Nick Leddy D 21 2 0 2 0 -3 0 0 0 0.095 0.000 0.095 0:00
35 1989 Ryan McDonagh D 17 0 2 2 2 4 0 0 0 0.000 0.118 0.118 0:07
36 1989 Jim O'Brien F 4 0 0 0 2 -2 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0:30
37 1984 Travis Morin F 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0:00

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/us-state ... stats.html

^without question a team made up of six D, nine F and a couple goalies would challenge for some hardware. 2Cents.

Raider Nation Guy · Post by **Raider Nation Guy** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:45 pm

You are all forgetting the one player that has had the best NHL career of all the players listed. Bret Hedican could be the best Minnesota player to ever play in the leauge. I would give him my vote. But to some of you he was not a Gopher so he does not count. If you look at his NHL numbers, there is no argument. He is the best!!!!!!!

Govie · Post by **Govie** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:25 pm

Raider Nation Guy wrote:You are all forgetting the one player that has had the best NHL career of all the players listed. Bret Hedican could be the best Minnesota player to ever play in the leauge. I would give him my vote. But to some of you he was not a Gopher so he does not count. If you look at his NHL numbers, there is no argument. He is the best!!!!!!!

Are you out of your mind? Ever heard of Phil Housley? Right into the Bigs out of high school. The stories of him going from one end to the other is legendary.

I already said previously he's the Gretzky of Minnesota hockey, and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Was Hedican even on any olympic teams? I think he was on one or two international teams. I'd take Otto over him as far as comparison. Also I'd take Langenbruner over him as well.

warriors41 · Post by **warriors41** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:40 pm

I don't think I've seen any mention of Henry Boucha yet. I believe he was rookie of the year. He also played on an olympic team. Too bad his career was cut short

MNHockey75 · Post by **MNHockey75** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:59 pm

I can't help but wonder just how good George Pelawa could have been. Rest in peace.

DubCHAGuy · Post by **DubCHAGuy** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:36 am

Govie wrote:
Raider Nation Guy wrote:You are all forgetting the one player that has had the best NHL career of all the players listed. Bret Hedican could be the best Minnesota player to ever play in the leauge. I would give him my vote. But to some of you he was not a Gopher so he does not count. If you look at his NHL numbers, there is no argument. He is the best!!!!!!!
Are you out of your mind? Ever heard of Phil Housley? Right into the Bigs out of high school. The stories of him going from one end to the other is legendary.

I already said previously he's the Gretzky of Minnesota hockey, and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Was Hedican even on any olympic teams? I think he was on one or two international teams. I'd take Otto over him as far as comparison. Also I'd take Langenbruner over him as well.

+1 Govie! Dave Christian and Matt Cullen as well.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:36 pm

Govie wrote:Was Hedican even on any olympic teams?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Hedican

Bret Michael Hedican (born August 10, 1970) is a retired American professional ice hockey player and a two-time US Olympian.

Even so, I agree that Housley is obviously the best player the state has ever produced.

Also, Frank Brimsek and Moose Goheen are the only Minnesotans currently enshrined in the Hockey Hall of Fame until Housley is eligible. However, Goheen never played in the NHL. Brimsek won a few Stanley Cups, set a few NHL records, played college hockey in state, and has at least two awards named after him. He's old school and he's not as good as Housley, but he should be part of the discussion.

C-dad · Post by **C-dad** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:00 pm

govies wrote:herb also grabbed two back to back ncaa I titles with only homegrown talent..

Umm, I loved Herb too, but he never got back-to-back NCAA titles. '74, '76 and '79, runner up in '75 to MTU.

BSUBeaver · Post by **BSUBeaver** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:06 pm

MNHockey75 wrote:I can't help but wonder just how good George Pelawa could have been. Rest in peace.

Yep, he would have been a great one to watch, I think.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:41 pm

MNHockey75 wrote:I can't help but wonder just how good George Pelawa could have been. Rest in peace.

Twins wanted him to play baseball
Gophers wanted him to play football (averaged 10 yards a carry sr season)
6'3"-6'4" 245 lb high schooler that had hands and skating ability of any smaller guys was and still is unheard of. (Calgary)

At the very least he would be a household name in the North American Hockey circle.

I have a friend from high school and more recently a sister in-law that are cousins. The pain runs deep to this day.