Is Mahtomedi going to upset STA again?

mnh21 · Post by **mnh21** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:02 pm

I thought i already have?
Just because Mahtomed is obviously the underdog doesn't mean anything. If you remember correctly Mahtomedi lost to STA 7-1 last year...didn't seem to make a difference would you say?

drop the puck · Post by **drop the puck** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:11 pm

Last years Zephyr goalie stopped 44 shots in a 2 - 1 sectional win. STA outshot Mahtomedi 45 to 25.

Wohlers last year had better than a .93 save percentage across the season. Marshall is sub 0.88 this year.

Zephyrs are peaking at the right time, but it remains a long shot at best. STA will be in the Section Finals. Not sure Mahtomedi can get that far.

eastsideguy · Post by **eastsideguy** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:15 pm

mnh21 wrote:I thought i already have?
Just because Mahtomed is obviously the underdog doesn't mean anything. If you remember correctly Mahtomedi lost to STA 7-1 last year...didn't seem to make a difference would you say?

Actually they split last year, each team winning 6-3 on the road

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:18 pm

drop the puck wrote:Last years Zephyr goalie stopped 44 shots in a 2 - 1 sectional win. STA outshot Mahtomedi 45 to 25.

Wohlers last year had better than a .93 save percentage across the season. Marshall is sub 0.88 this year.

Zephyrs are peaking at the right time, but it remains a long shot at best. STA will be in the Section Finals. Not sure Mahtomedi can get that far.

Great points.

Their team defense was also a lot better last year; this helped Wohlers big time! If the goalie knows he can rely on his team to play proper defense, he'll be able to focus on the puck a lot more efficiently.

The loss of the Zephers seniors from last year is obviously showing in their scores and record. Offensively and defensively Mahtomedi is inferior to STA.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:26 pm

eastsideguy wrote:
mnh21 wrote:I thought i already have?
Just because Mahtomed is obviously the underdog doesn't mean anything. If you remember correctly Mahtomedi lost to STA 7-1 last year...didn't seem to make a difference would you say?
Actually they split last year, each team winning 6-3 on the road

If YOU remember correctly...

Proof: http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/schedule/tea ... ason=16427

Good catch, eastside.

puckster15 · Post by **puckster15** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:27 pm

mnh21, you are making a big assumption that Mahtomedia and STA will face each other in sections. I am not sure Zephyrs will go that deep.

We will see, anything can happen. If they do, STA would certainly be favored. Losses of Marshall, Zurn and Wohlers too big to overcome for Zephyrs.

mnh21 · Post by **mnh21** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:33 pm

1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:42 pm

mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

No they didn't... They met 3 times last year. Both scores were 6-3 (split series) and Maht. won in section finals 2-1.

drop the puck wrote:Last years Zephyr goalie stopped 44 shots in a 2 - 1 sectional win. STA outshot Mahtomedi 45 to 25.

Wohlers last year had better than a .93 save percentage across the season. Marshall is sub 0.88 this year.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:43 pm

mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

Most of their best impact players left; you cannot deny that.

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:48 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?
Most of their best impact players left; you cannot deny that.

Definitely agree on this one

headinjury · Post by **headinjury** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:00 pm

I think if the seniors start scoring, mahtomedi could be a threat deep.

EHSHack · Post by **EHSHack** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:15 pm

mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

What does that prove? Someone HAS to be their leading scorer. Thats like saying our goalie scored two goals, he is our leading scorer, so no, I dont think all the talent has graduated.

MNhockeyfan12101 · Post by **MNhockeyfan12101** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:41 pm

Marshall is a solid goalie. His save % would have been a lot higher if he wasn't injuried for half the season. If Mahtomedi's juniors get hot including Marshall they could make a run in sections.. STA Isn't very reliable when it comes to the section championship game As we can see from the last few years..

mnh21 · Post by **mnh21** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:34 pm

If st.Thomas has any guts they should play double A anyways

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:38 pm

mnh21 wrote:If st.Thomas has any guts they should play double A anyways

According to you it doesn't matter because Mahtomedi can beat them regardless.

HMHockey943 · Post by **HMHockey943** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:48 pm

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:20 pm

mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

Wow! That is considered a weapon? Hey, Sleepy Eye, Worthington and Two Harbors are all grateful for this information.

Lee

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:22 pm

east hockey wrote:
mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?
Wow! That is considered a weapon? Hey, Sleepy Eye, Worthington and Two Harbors are all grateful for this information.

Lee

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:30 pm

starmvp wrote:
east hockey wrote:
mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?
Wow! That is considered a weapon? Hey, Sleepy Eye, Worthington and Two Harbors are all grateful for this information.

Lee

I should have used St Paul Highland Park instead of Sleepy Eye.

Lee

EastMetro Hockey10 · Post by **EastMetro Hockey10** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:02 pm

mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

That makes no sense defense limits the scoring chances while the goalie stops the scoring chances. Just cause a goalie makes a great save doesn't mean it wasn't a scoring chance. I think all 4 points have been disproven now.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:10 pm

mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:42 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
mnh21 wrote:1. Mahtomedi's junior line is their leading scores so no I don't think all the talent graduated.
2. If Sawyer Marshall plays on his head then that will limit scoring chances.
3. Mahtomedi's biggest weapon is them being an underdog.
4. Sta beat Mahtomedi 7-1 last year and that didn't seem to make much a difference..would you disagree?

I'm in agreement here Puck. That's my smiley as well.

drop the puck · Post by **drop the puck** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:20 am

MNhockeyfan12101 wrote:Marshall is a solid goalie. His save % would have been a lot higher if he wasn't injuried for half the season. If Mahtomedi's juniors get hot including Marshall they could make a run in sections.. STA Isn't very reliable when it comes to the section championship game As we can see from the last few years..

STA was not unreliable the past two years. I squeezed into that Section game last year at Aldrich as a neutral observer. STA played well, outshooting Mahtomedi almost 2 - 1. They played tough on Ben Marshall on his attempts to skate up through the neutral zone. He got his bell rung and had to sit a shift or two at the back of the bench. But over the entire game he rarely left the ice last year. Marshall is one of the best players to come out of the East Side in the past 10 years. He made a difference. Most state tournament teams have one of these guys on the ice.

Wohlers made a huge difference in that game.

mnh21 · Post by **mnh21** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:25 am

What's funny is you all are probably obsessive dad's that don't have a life. Sorry that your team hasnt made it to state in the last 2 years. Let's not cry about it on here though.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:43 am

mnh21 wrote:What's funny is you all are probably obsessive dad's that don't have a life. Sorry that your team hasnt made it to state in the last 2 years. Let's not cry about it on here though.

What's funny is that somehow you can call Mahtomedi the underdog last year. Two games were played between the two; lost the first 6-3, won the second 6-3. Imo, should've been the top seed. Either way, not the underdog. Hard to say they were a huge underdog two years ago either.