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The Minnesota Minute Men: http://www.minnesotaminutemen.com/index ... &Itemid=41019 wrote:Who is the sponsor or organizer for this award?
Thats "two" high school games vs Edina that Mr. Rau has not scored a point in, being shut down again by, yes, I've been saying this all year, the future 2011 Mr. Hockey Max Everson!!!!High Flyer wrote:Everson has had the same career, shuts down Rau, turned down the Gophers for Harvard, will draft higher than Rau and will be Mr MN this year.DubCHAGuy wrote:The only year I can think of a legitimate argument of a Gopher recruit receiving the award over a non-Gopher recruit would be Aaron Ness over Jake Gardiner in 2008, and even that is a stretch. Ness had a great HS career.
Rau is the best player this year and has had the best career, IMO.
I wouldn't have a problem if Everson won it. Obviously he is a smart and talented kid.High Flyer wrote:Thats "two" high school games vs Edina that Mr. Rau has not scored a point in, being shut down again by, yes, I've been saying this all year, the future 2011 Mr. Hockey Max Everson!!!!
mulefarm wrote:Last year he had touble scoring against Tonka and this year Edina. If better high school D can shut him down, how will he fair in the WCHA?
I would say 2 yrs of jr.High Flyer wrote:mulefarm wrote:Last year he had touble scoring against Tonka and this year Edina. If better high school D can shut him down, how will he fair in the WCHA?
Exactly! Rau also struggle with several of the defensemen in the Elite league this fall.
And my point, if Rau is currently the most dominate high school forward in MN (debatable), what does that say about Everson who has shut him down to “0” points in two games this year??
Does anyone else think it is huge mistake on the U of M part not to have Rau play at least 1 year in the USHL???
Is he the next Danny Mattson?mulefarm wrote:I would say 2 yrs of jr.High Flyer wrote:mulefarm wrote:Last year he had touble scoring against Tonka and this year Edina. If better high school D can shut him down, how will he fair in the WCHA?
Exactly! Rau also struggle with several of the defensemen in the Elite league this fall.
And my point, if Rau is currently the most dominate high school forward in MN (debatable), what does that say about Everson who has shut him down to “0” points in two games this year??
Does anyone else think it is huge mistake on the U of M part not to have Rau play at least 1 year in the USHL???
I do agree that this years Mr. Hockey will come from AA. I think it is a two horse race between Rau & Everson and at this point I think the edge goes to Everson, though there is still a couple of more weeks of hockey left. My long shot is Cameranesi, though he would really need to finish strong and need Everson/Rau to falter down the stretch.The Exiled One wrote:I could see Everson winning it. Before Bjugstad, the previous six winners were defensemen from AA teams. Better skaters often gravitate towards playing defense and AA teams get more exposure, so that makes some sense. Am I remembering correctly that Greenway was playing AA back in 2002? If so, a class A player hasn't won it since Johnny Pohl back in 1998. Though I hate to do it, I'm counting Hendrickson out because of the class A thing. It should be between Rau and Everson with the edge to whomever's team makes it further in sections. Edge to Rau if both teams make it to state.
High Flyer wrote:Thats "two" high school games vs Edina that Mr. Rau has not scored a point in, being shut down again by, yes, I've been saying this all year, the future 2011 Mr. Hockey Max Everson!!!!High Flyer wrote:Everson has had the same career, shuts down Rau, turned down the Gophers for Harvard, will draft higher than Rau and will be Mr MN this year.DubCHAGuy wrote:The only year I can think of a legitimate argument of a Gopher recruit receiving the award over a non-Gopher recruit would be Aaron Ness over Jake Gardiner in 2008, and even that is a stretch. Ness had a great HS career.
Rau is the best player this year and has had the best career, IMO.
You can't judge a defenseman just on his points.... You simply can't....HockeyMN1 wrote:High Flyer wrote:Thats "two" high school games vs Edina that Mr. Rau has not scored a point in, being shut down again by, yes, I've been saying this all year, the future 2011 Mr. Hockey Max Everson!!!!High Flyer wrote: Everson has had the same career, shuts down Rau, turned down the Gophers for Harvard, will draft higher than Rau and will be Mr MN this year.
For all my fellow KFAN fans this needs to go to common for a preposterous statement nominee. That's also "two" high school games vs. Eden Prairie that Mr. Everson has not scored a point in.
Everson has a whopping FOUR goals on the year and 14 assists, for a grand total of a mind boggling 18 points. Rau has FIFTY-TWO against a harder schedule. I truly don't understand your logic. Yes, Rau hasn't logged a point against Edina (he ringed the bar twice last night though) but Everson has nada against Wayzata (twice), Grand Rapids, Eden Prairie (twice), Blaine, Tonka, and Cretin. And again, only four goals. Yes I know he's on D but he only has 14 assists and if you want to look at that EP has Seeler (D) with 7 goals and 21 assists and Molenaar (D) with 4 goals and 16 assists. When Leddy won it he was in the teens in goals and thirties in assists. This one isn't even close, Mr. Hockey 2011 is Kyle Rau.
You can't judge him against forwards but you certainly can against other D. EP has two defensemen who are just as good, if not better than Everson. Leddy was way better than all of them. Defensemen should be able to at least log assists at a very high rate and Everson absolutely does not take over games the way Rau does and Leddy did. But whatever, I'm not worried about it because I know that the voters for Mr. Hockey are not idiots. Rau will win.starmvp wrote:You can't judge a defenseman just on his points.... You simply can't....HockeyMN1 wrote:High Flyer wrote: Thats "two" high school games vs Edina that Mr. Rau has not scored a point in, being shut down again by, yes, I've been saying this all year, the future 2011 Mr. Hockey Max Everson!!!!
For all my fellow KFAN fans this needs to go to common for a preposterous statement nominee. That's also "two" high school games vs. Eden Prairie that Mr. Everson has not scored a point in.
Everson has a whopping FOUR goals on the year and 14 assists, for a grand total of a mind boggling 18 points. Rau has FIFTY-TWO against a harder schedule. I truly don't understand your logic. Yes, Rau hasn't logged a point against Edina (he ringed the bar twice last night though) but Everson has nada against Wayzata (twice), Grand Rapids, Eden Prairie (twice), Blaine, Tonka, and Cretin. And again, only four goals. Yes I know he's on D but he only has 14 assists and if you want to look at that EP has Seeler (D) with 7 goals and 21 assists and Molenaar (D) with 4 goals and 16 assists. When Leddy won it he was in the teens in goals and thirties in assists. This one isn't even close, Mr. Hockey 2011 is Kyle Rau.
In the last game, Rau had two posts and a crossbar and Girard played out of his mind. What does any of this have to do with Everson?High Flyer wrote:mulefarm wrote:Last year he had touble scoring against Tonka and this year Edina. If better high school D can shut him down, how will he fair in the WCHA?
Exactly! Rau also struggle with several of the defensemen in the Elite league this fall.
And my point, if Rau is currently the most dominate high school forward in MN (debatable), what does that say about Everson who has shut him down to “0” points in two games this year??
Does anyone else think it is huge mistake on the U of M part not to have Rau play at least 1 year in the USHL???
The Exiled One wrote:Joseph LaBate, Forward, Holy Angels
Kyle Rau, Forward, Eden Prairie
Patrick Daly, Defense, Benilde-St. Margaret's
Max Everson, Defense, Edina
Steven Fogarty, Forward, Edina
Garrett Hendrickson, Forward, Virginia
Josh Archibald, Forward, Brainerd
Ben Bahe, Forward, Hill-Murray
Jonny Brodzinski, Forward, Blaine
Tony Cameranesi, Forward, Wayzata
http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog.com ... -finalists
Any surprises? Inclusions? Omissions?
