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GoFalcons
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Post by GoFalcons »

So wait your telling me that the Falcons are not going to make it to state because they are just like Red Wing??? Well for one that is ridiculous because they are nothing like that, actually. I love that the Red Wing fans fight the fact the Alleva was not the entire team. Thats really hard to believe considering she played almost 100% of the time. Why do you need someone out there that long if she is not the team? Why not give other girls a chance? Well thats because SHE WAS THE TEAM. Now, people you can argue and argue about it all you want, but it doesnt matter now. Bergland is obviously a great player, but she is no Alleva, in the sense that she isnt the entire team. Bergland is a goal scorer, period. I mean great offensively, but she is nothing like Alleva was. They lost two seniors, Johnson and Knack. They will miss them greatly all around, but it gives the younger players a chance to step up and fill their shoes. They over all have WAY more depth than any other team in the section and we all know it. I honestly don't think any team can compare. We will see though, all teams have flaws, just look at Red Wing last year.

GO FALCONS!
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Post by capitalist »

skate4state2 wrote:How does everyone think red wing will do next year? they lost alleva but haley wagner and schammel are all strong young players. all predicted to play d1 hockey.
My advice to you is to study hard and make sure you get good grades in Science, Math, and English.
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Post by hockeygroupie »

capitalist wrote:
skate4state2 wrote:How does everyone think red wing will do next year? they lost alleva but haley wagner and schammel are all strong young players. all predicted to play d1 hockey.
My advice to you is to study hard and make sure you get good grades in Science, Math, and English.

Good advice! FYI Wagner is not playing for Red Wing this year, she left and is now playing with Thorough Breds...
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GoFalcons wrote:So wait your telling me that the Falcons are not going to make it to state because they are just like Red Wing??? Well for one that is ridiculous because they are nothing like that, actually. I love that the Red Wing fans fight the fact the Alleva was not the entire team. Thats really hard to believe considering she played almost 100% of the time. Why do you need someone out there that long if she is not the team? Why not give other girls a chance? Well thats because SHE WAS THE TEAM. Now, people you can argue and argue about it all you want, but it doesnt matter now. Bergland is obviously a great player, but she is no Alleva, in the sense that she isnt the entire team. Bergland is a goal scorer, period. I mean great offensively, but she is nothing like Alleva was. They lost two seniors, Johnson and Knack. They will miss them greatly all around, but it gives the younger players a chance to step up and fill their shoes. They over all have WAY more depth than any other team in the section and we all know it. I honestly don't think any team can compare. We will see though, all teams have flaws, just look at Red Wing last year.

GO FALCONS!


I must agree with this post...looking back on the Falcons last season, they have a lot of young skaters that can put the puck in the net. If they play as a team and not try and be a Rosie team, the Falcons will have a good season. Bergland and Salmonsen will take them to the Tourney if they play together. Bergland was in the top ten in state in goals and Salmonsen the same in assists. If one of them is off the other one will step up. My prediction will be Faribault vs Northfield/New Prague in section final with Faribault winning.
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Post by GoFalcons »

That doesn't surprise me...That is a bad decision in my eyes. Playing on a high school team and learning the life lessons and values you get from being on a team that isnt allstars. Look at Alleva, she did just fine playing with girls that were not as good as her. Wagner is good, but not that good. I do not understand why girls decide to go to those kind of teams. Example: Bergland is a high caliber player, yet she stayed with her team that she has been with forever. She could have easily gone and played with hockey teams like shattuck or throughbreds that are all her level but that ruins the game, i think. Its like the yankees having all the allstars and stacking up. Its not the exact same but the same concept. Yes, the teams like shattuck and throughbreds dont play in the minnesota state high school league, but the experience you get from being on a high school team and getting the chance to play in the state tournament. there is no other stage like it. I think girls doing this are making a mistake and that sticking with the team you have been with forever no matter how good you are is where you should be. Its more than just playing hockey, its the friends and values of being on a high school team that you will have forever. I wish Wagner the best of luck, but I hope she took all points into consideration.
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Post by hockeya1a »

GoFalcons wrote:That doesn't surprise me...That is a bad decision in my eyes. Playing on a high school team and learning the life lessons and values you get from being on a team that isnt allstars. Look at Alleva, she did just fine playing with girls that were not as good as her. Wagner is good, but not that good. I do not understand why girls decide to go to those kind of teams. Example: Bergland is a high caliber player, yet she stayed with her team that she has been with forever. She could have easily gone and played with hockey teams like shattuck or throughbreds that are all her level but that ruins the game, i think. Its like the yankees having all the allstars and stacking up. Its not the exact same but the same concept. Yes, the teams like shattuck and throughbreds dont play in the minnesota state high school league, but the experience you get from being on a high school team and getting the chance to play in the state tournament. there is no other stage like it. I think girls doing this are making a mistake and that sticking with the team you have been with forever no matter how good you are is where you should be. Its more than just playing hockey, its the friends and values of being on a high school team that you will have forever. I wish Wagner the best of luck, but I hope she took all points into consideration.
Great post, if you are good enough to make it on the TB I am sure you will be found on your HS team.
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Post by Rocket78 »

The JM girls that skated with Faribault in the fall said that both Bergland, Walker (& North?) are hurt. How bad? How long will they be out of action? Who steps up?
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Post by GoFalcons »

Yes, Bergland and Walker are both injured. Not sure how long each will be out. It depends on their recovery. Walker tore her ACL and Bergland broke her leg. Bergland will be back before Walker. It was a clean break so if it goes as planned, it will be about 4 to 5 weeks. No surgery. Not sure how this will all work out, but they still have the Salmonsen's, Kline, and Reineke. Sure people are thinking they are done for, but they still have all their D and don't forget about Seitz. Yes, Bergland is out for a while, but its the beginning of the season. The best is yet to come!

Go Falcons!!!
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This is what I find so halarious....the LPH rankings come out, and the Falcons are ranked 15th...ok whatever not the issue. Issue is that Red Wing, for some god for saken reason is ranked 7th? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT I DIDNT CATCH HERE? Hmmm ok so I guess Faribault didn't win section finals against Red Wing last year...Please explain this to me. Someone out there most know the answer. This isnt a rising concern considering Faribault will crush them, but I am just in awe. As far as I am concerned these rankings are based off of last year...I don't care if their record or whatever was better then the Falcons...in the end that doesnt matter. Its about who wins. Falcons won they deserve to be higher in the rankings. I mean all in all who cares about rankings....Red wing was top 10 all year yet they didnt make it to state...huh...weird.
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GoFalcons wrote:This is what I find so halarious....the LPH rankings come out, and the Falcons are ranked 15th...ok whatever not the issue. Issue is that Red Wing, for some god for saken reason is ranked 7th? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT I DIDNT CATCH HERE? Hmmm ok so I guess Faribault didn't win section finals against Red Wing last year...Please explain this to me. Someone out there most know the answer. This isnt a rising concern considering Faribault will crush them, but I am just in awe. As far as I am concerned these rankings are based off of last year...I don't care if their record or whatever was better then the Falcons...in the end that doesnt matter. Its about who wins. Falcons won they deserve to be higher in the rankings. I mean all in all who cares about rankings....Red wing was top 10 all year yet they didnt make it to state...huh...weird.
Its the coach he has more pull than yours :wink:
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Post by skate4state2 »

actually i find this quite hilarious too. but maybe its because the whole state of minnesota knows RED WING IS A BETTER TEAM! it doesnt matter if they win, red wing, faribo, the whole 1A scetions knows red wing is better hands down. maybe they didnt make it to state last year but they will give faribo a run for their money. red wing won't have as good of a record as faribo probably this year, but they also play way harder teams. it will help them in the long run.
but back to the fact red wing is ranked 7th and faribo is 15th. red wing is just better. plain and simple



GoFalcons wrote:This is what I find so halarious....the LPH rankings come out, and the Falcons are ranked 15th...ok whatever not the issue. Issue is that Red Wing, for some god for saken reason is ranked 7th? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT I DIDNT CATCH HERE? Hmmm ok so I guess Faribault didn't win section finals against Red Wing last year...Please explain this to me. Someone out there most know the answer. This isnt a rising concern considering Faribault will crush them, but I am just in awe. As far as I am concerned these rankings are based off of last year...I don't care if their record or whatever was better then the Falcons...in the end that doesnt matter. Its about who wins. Falcons won they deserve to be higher in the rankings. I mean all in all who cares about rankings....Red wing was top 10 all year yet they didnt make it to state...huh...weird.
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Post by skate4state2 »

GoFalcons wrote:So wait your telling me that the Falcons are not going to make it to state because they are just like Red Wing??? Well for one that is ridiculous because they are nothing like that, actually. I love that the Red Wing fans fight the fact the Alleva was not the entire team. Thats really hard to believe considering she played almost 100% of the time. Why do you need someone out there that long if she is not the team? Why not give other girls a chance? Well thats because SHE WAS THE TEAM. Now, people you can argue and argue about it all you want, but it doesnt matter now. Bergland is obviously a great player, but she is no Alleva, in the sense that she isnt the entire team. Bergland is a goal scorer, period. I mean great offensively, but she is nothing like Alleva was. They lost two seniors, Johnson and Knack. They will miss them greatly all around, but it gives the younger players a chance to step up and fill their shoes. They over all have WAY more depth than any other team in the section and we all know it. I honestly don't think any team can compare. We will see though, all teams have flaws, just look at Red Wing last year.

GO FALCONS!



looking at the facts, faribo on paper looks this year like the team red wing had last year. lets also look at the stats from last year. i believe schammel had more points and goals than anyone (including alleva) up until around the schwanns cup time period. that says something for a 8th grader. paige haley made new york and has greatly improved over the summer along with nibble. it will be quite an interesting year for this section. can't wait for january 25th when faribo enters PI arena all cocky and red wing destroys them.
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Post by hockeygroupie »

skate4state2 wrote:
GoFalcons wrote:So wait your telling me that the Falcons are not going to make it to state because they are just like Red Wing??? Well for one that is ridiculous because they are nothing like that, actually. I love that the Red Wing fans fight the fact the Alleva was not the entire team. Thats really hard to believe considering she played almost 100% of the time. Why do you need someone out there that long if she is not the team? Why not give other girls a chance? Well thats because SHE WAS THE TEAM. Now, people you can argue and argue about it all you want, but it doesnt matter now. Bergland is obviously a great player, but she is no Alleva, in the sense that she isnt the entire team. Bergland is a goal scorer, period. I mean great offensively, but she is nothing like Alleva was. They lost two seniors, Johnson and Knack. They will miss them greatly all around, but it gives the younger players a chance to step up and fill their shoes. They over all have WAY more depth than any other team in the section and we all know it. I honestly don't think any team can compare. We will see though, all teams have flaws, just look at Red Wing last year.

GO FALCONS!



looking at the facts, faribo on paper looks this year like the team red wing had last year. lets also look at the stats from last year. i believe schammel had more points and goals than anyone (including alleva) up until around the schwanns cup time period. that says something for a 8th grader. paige haley made new york and has greatly improved over the summer along with nibble. it will be quite an interesting year for this section. can't wait for january 25th when faribo enters PI arena all cocky and red wing destroys them.
From the outside looking in, someone here(or we hear) has a little chip on their shoulder and taking out a little anger on the keyboard.
After reading some of these posts, and not being a Falcon or Winger fan, both teams seem to have issues coming into the season. Obviously Red Wings greatest loss is Alleva, which pretty much is Red Wing. No one on that team has her ability, NO ONE! If they did they would have been out there as much as her. They have some decent players, ok players, but nearly as good as players as Faribault has depth. I hear Walker is out, and Bergland my miss a few games in the beginning, but that shouldn't hurt Faribault too much. They have Salmonsen, their goalie, all their D back, 2nd line, a decent 3rd line, and a few very good 14 players that moved up. Not sure who Kline or Reineke are that were mentioned in earlier post, but definitely a stronger team than Red Wing.

Sorry Red Wing facts are facts and it sounds like the cocky ones are in your corner. Not sure that I have read any cockiness in any of the Falcon Fan or whatever their sign in name is. Be careful Red Winger on your tone of keyboard. :oops:
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Post by GoFalcons »

Thank you hockeygroupie. Someone has common sense. Look whoever skate4state2 is...your OBVIOUSLY a redwing fan. Cause I guarantee no one else believes they are the strongest team in the section. I dont know why they are ahead of the rankings, guessing the coach did have some poll :wink: but that doesnt matter, and wherever your getting these "stats" from, well that doesnt matter either. Its a whole new year, and that redwing team is not the same. Now, I am not saying that there isn't a team out there that can beat us, because i hardly doubt this team will go undefeated, BUT as for the section, yes they are the best team. When it comes to crunch time when it matters, this team knows what it takes to win, but they also know disappointment, which got them through last year in the finals. Last year, yes I believe Redwing was the better team on paper. They flat out were and I am not arguing that. What I am arguing is that this year Faribault is stronger and has more depth. Whether they use their talent is in their hands, but if they get on the right track, they will be hard to stop.
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Post by Rocket78 »

A very odd start for Section 1 A and AA

Red Wing 0-2, only 2 pts for Schammel and Haley

Faribault 1-2, No Berglund-few goals, Win over JM, losses to Winona & Mayo

JM off to a 3-1 start. newcomers are scoring, beat Mayo, lost to F'bo

Mayo off to a 1-2 start newcomers are not scoring, lost to JM, Owatonna, beat F'bo

Century won a game

Austin and A.L only showed one game each and both are 0-1

Northfield is 1 -1 with Pumper raining shots at the net
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Post by skate4state2 »

when is bergland back?
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Post by Mac15 »

MGHCA website shows Berglund with 3 games and 0 points. Megan is a really good player and fun to watch. Any ideas when she'll be close to 100%?

What about Walker? Will she be back in the lineup anytime soon.
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Post by Falcon 89 Fan »

MGHCA is wrong. Bergland has not played yet! It is hoped that both her and Walker will be back on Thursday. Walker will be playing with a brace on her knee. With her and Bergland back, the red light will be shining behind the opposing goalies net again.

The skate to state start soon!!!


As Always GO Green!!! :mrgreen:
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Post by skate4state2 »

What is everyones predictions looking as we are coming up on the last third of the season?
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Post by hockeygroupie »

skate4state2 wrote:What is everyones predictions looking as we are coming up on the last third of the season?
1. Northfield
2. Faribault
3. Redwing
4. New Prague
5. Albert lea
6. Austin
7. Waseca

Northfield vs Faribault in finals. Faribault 4 Nfld 1
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Post by skate4state2 »

Faribo vs Red wing tomorrow and Northfield vs Red wing thursday..
Any predictions?

RW-4 FARIBO-2

RW-3 NFIELD-1
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Post by Falcon 89 Fan »

skate4state2 wrote:Faribo vs Red wing tomorrow and Northfield vs Red wing thursday..
Any predictions?

RW-4 FARIBO-2

RW-3 NFIELD-1
Fbo 5 RW 1

Nfld 3 RW 2

As Always, Go Green!!!!! :mrgreen:
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Post by skate4state2 »

RW-6 FBO-3 hmmmmm.....
Good night for the wingers although they got a little bit screwed by the refs, but so did both teams.
Will be interesting to see how the seeding go.

My prediction RW and FBO in finals, RW-5 FBO-2
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Post by skate4state2 »

also this better silence all the comments that rose was their team. there were points from 6 different players last night, schammel both haleys, fairbanks, stegora, and gorman. this just proves my point where faribo is in red wings spot last year, their year to go to state but won't happen. and yes you can make the arguement that red wing beat faribo last year in the regular season but red wing is playing great hockey and if they play their best through sections, state will be there. good luck to red wing, those girls actually condition and work their butt off and thats why they are the best team in 1A
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Post by hockeygroupie »

skate4state2 wrote:also this better silence all the comments that rose was their team. there were points from 6 different players last night, schammel both haleys, fairbanks, stegora, and gorman. this just proves my point where faribo is in red wings spot last year, their year to go to state but won't happen. and yes you can make the arguement that red wing beat faribo last year in the regular season but red wing is playing great hockey and if they play their best through sections, state will be there. good luck to red wing, those girls actually condition and work their butt off and thats why they are the best team in 1A
Box score says Schammel 4 goals Haley 2 goals. Looks like Schammel is the new Aleva!!!! 3PP goals for Red Wing, paper says 1 goal taken away from Fairbault. Sounds like a lopsided game that could have gone either way. Good luck to all the teams.
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