mpls park storm may dissolve

Discussion of Minnesota Youth Hockey

Moderators: Mitch Hawker, east hockey, karl(east)

Post Reply
Storm Coach
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm

mpls park storm may dissolve

Post by Storm Coach »

Tonight I heard that the St. Louis Park board voted to withdraw from the Storm Coop.

I was asked which team I wanted to coach. I hope there is time for the parents of the kids to revolt against the individuals who were factors in this last minute decision. It is sad and I put this out here because the kids deserve to know that politics seem to have split up the Storm.

Hope reason still has time to trump passion.

JS
jancze5
Posts: 421
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:11 pm

Post by jancze5 »

that's too bad, they've put competetive teams on the ice for the last few years...
New England Prep School Hockey Recruiter
hockeyover40
Posts: 109
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:04 pm

Post by hockeyover40 »

Does anyone in the know from St. Louis Park or Mpls care to elaborate.
Cut Above
Posts: 117
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:00 pm

Post by Cut Above »

Delete
Last edited by Cut Above on Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
hockeyover40
Posts: 109
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:04 pm

Post by hockeyover40 »

Have got confirmation, it's true. Not good news for the kids. Heard someone thinks their bigger than the program. Again big egos get in the way.
HockeyDad41
Posts: 1238
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:40 pm

Post by HockeyDad41 »

For those of us not in the area, could you tell us a little history about the Storm for a bit of context. Thanks in advance.
Solving all of hockey's problems since Feb 2009.
HockeyDad2016
Posts: 96
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:37 pm

Post by HockeyDad2016 »

So are they each going to have thier own stand alone Assoc.?

What Districts are they going to be in? - still Dist. 3 and is this at all levels?
Titan2020
Posts: 52
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:47 pm

Post by Titan2020 »

Cut Above wrote:EMAIL ME privately if you are looking to play 12A elsewhere?
DOOD!?? Seriously...
Titan2020
Posts: 52
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:47 pm

Post by Titan2020 »

HockeyDad2016 wrote:So are they each going to have thier own stand alone Assoc.?

What Districts are they going to be in? - still Dist. 3 and is this at all levels?
With D1 dissolving, both Mpls & SLP are both D3 associations.
Titan2020
Posts: 52
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:47 pm

Post by Titan2020 »

jancze5 wrote:that's too bad, they've put competetive teams on the ice for the last few years...
Yip!
HockeySLP
Posts: 86
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:07 pm

Re: mpls park storm may dissolve

Post by HockeySLP »

Storm Coach wrote:Tonight I heard that the St. Louis Park board voted to withdraw from the Storm Coop.

I was asked which team I wanted to coach. I hope there is time for the parents of the kids to revolt against the individuals who were factors in this last minute decision. It is sad and I put this out here because the kids deserve to know that politics seem to have split up the Storm.

Hope reason still has time to trump passion.

JS
JS Storm Coach

Thanks for all that you did for my now 2nd year Bantam, he may have had the greatest hockey run of his life, under your tutelage!!! Taking 4th in the PeeWee A State Tournament and missing the championship game by a cross-bar. I can not speak to the reasons for the break, but there are some strong personalities on both sides. All I can say, is that the co-op of MPLS-SLP was a great experience for my son the entire 5 years he was part of it, and having you coach him for 2 or the 5 years was a big part of that experience. Thanks again, and good luck, trying to get them back to the table.
Storm Coach
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm

Storm Update

Post by Storm Coach »

UPDATE: After SLP voted to dissolve its Coop with Mpls yesterday, Mpls proposed to split at the B level, since a debate over the number and nature of their B1 teams was the problem, and keep the A team Coop at the PeeWee level, but SLP will not agree even though they return 3 players with PeeWee B1 or A experience, 6 B2's and no squirt A players. It remains to be seen how they will field a team that can compete in District 3.

Only 4 days ago SLP was happy to have a cooped A team. I've asked what has changed that makes it so necessary to split up on the eve of tryouts... Did not receive an answer and was not consulted during this process that affects players of mine from last year.

I'm thankful to Mpls for offering to give in to SLP's desire for the B1 teams. I wish SLP would not have responded with "we already voted" and cannot undo it. Of course that was ridiculous. Nothing is stopping them from allowing the A players to coop one more year with Mpls.

Things can still change and I beg SLP to reconsider for their A players sake.

JS[/i]
council member retired
Posts: 283
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:12 pm
Location: Nordeast Mpls

Re: Storm Update

Post by council member retired »

[quote="Storm Coach"]UPDATE: After SLP voted to dissolve its Coop with Mpls yesterday, Mpls proposed to split at the B level, since a debate over the number and nature of their B1 teams was the problem, and keep the A team Coop at the PeeWee level, but SLP will not agree even though they return 3 players with PeeWee B1 or A experience, 6 B2's and no squirt A players. It remains to be seen how they will field a team that can compete in District 3.

Only 4 days ago SLP was happy to have a cooped A team. I've asked what has changed that makes it so necessary to split up on the eve of tryouts... Did not receive an answer and was not consulted during this process that affects players of mine from last year.

I'm thankful to Mpls for offering to give in to SLP's desire for the B1 teams. I wish SLP would not have responded with "we already voted" and cannot undo it. Of course that was ridiculous. Nothing is stopping them from allowing the A players to coop one more year with Mpls.

Things can still change and I beg SLP to reconsider for their A players sake.

JS[/i][/quote]


Is there a board member or someone at a higher level whom stands to benefit by having SLP run on its own?
hockeyover40
Posts: 109
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:04 pm

Post by hockeyover40 »

I was hoping SW Prez and someone from SLP would come on line and fill us in on what went on. Storm Coach I can feel your frustration. This has been going on ever since the co-op started. The first big disagreement both parties couldn't get past was at the squirt level where they broke the co-op and fielded their own teams last year. SLP didn't have an A team, and MPLS' was average at best. This year the B1 levels were the problem.

Storm Coach you seem to be blaming SLP, and I'm sure they're partly to blame. But, feedback I'm getting is that MPLS made a demand on them, gave them 24hrs. to respond, with no room for discussion. This has happen before, and they had enough of it. The co-op supporters on the SLP board could no longer support the co-op and the vote was unanimous.

Hopefully nobody from either board is coming on this forum because they are busy trying to iron this out, if it still possible. Blame whomever you want, but get it worked out. Put the egos aside and do what's best for the kids.
SWPrez
Posts: 370
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:48 am

Post by SWPrez »

hockeyover40 wrote:I was hoping SW Prez and someone from SLP would come on line and fill us in on what went on. Storm Coach I can feel your frustration. This has been going on ever since the co-op started. The first big disagreement both parties couldn't get past was at the squirt level where they broke the co-op and fielded their own teams last year. SLP didn't have an A team, and MPLS' was average at best. This year the B1 levels were the problem.

Storm Coach you seem to be blaming SLP, and I'm sure they're partly to blame. But, feedback I'm getting is that MPLS made a demand on them, gave them 24hrs. to respond, with no room for discussion. This has happen before, and they had enough of it. The co-op supporters on the SLP board could no longer support the co-op and the vote was unanimous.

Hopefully nobody from either board is coming on this forum because they are busy trying to iron this out, if it still possible. Blame whomever you want, but get it worked out. Put the egos aside and do what's best for the kids.
Sorry hockeyover40...but I can't comment in detail on this at this time. However, the reason you gave for this breaking down is not correct, and I have requested the SLP President stop whomever is spreading that rumor as the reason for why this is on the path it is on as I have heard it myself a few times today.

I have nothing but fond memories of my son's MPLS-Park Storm experience and his teammates from SLP and Minneapolis and thank the SLPHA and families for making the years special.

A formal statement will go out to membership from SLP/SWHA/WAHA in the morning outlining where we go from here for 2010-11.
Storm Coach
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm

Post by Storm Coach »

HockeyOver40:

I can understand how my posts have led you to think I blame SLP for the "divorce", but I want to be clear that I do not. What I do blame SLP for taking a dispute that was about the B level, and using that as a reason to walk away from the Storm at the A level. It did not have to be this way, and in fact Mpls agreed to the split at the B level but to keep the Coop for the upcoming season (less than 20 days aways)... SLP said no and thus I do have to blame SLP for not allowing the kids at the A level play together this year.

Thank you for your kind remarks, btw, that was a special season.

JS
Storm Coach
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm

Correction!

Post by Storm Coach »

My last remark was for HockeySLP... Sorry Hockeyover40, you may not be a big fan of me!

I wish SLP the best and still hope for a reunion at the A level!

JS
hockeyover40
Posts: 109
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:04 pm

Re: Correction!

Post by hockeyover40 »

Storm Coach wrote:My last remark was for HockeySLP... Sorry Hockeyover40, you may not be a big fan of me!

I wish SLP the best and still hope for a reunion at the A level!

JS
Storm Coach, check your pm
F14
Posts: 260
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:15 am

Benilde

Post by F14 »

With the Formal desire to actively have kids play hockey where they attend school (BSM kids play at SLP now), THere are 10-15 kids at Bantam A and B1 level from BSM that don't reside in SLP but go to school there.

I would assume SLP saw a huge influx of BSM players and doesn't need players from Mpls as well. BSM has several players now at Peewee A and B1 level I understand.

BSM is a 7-12 school so in theory they could do what Blake has done for years and have their own Bantam team or teams. Perhaps in another year or two they will do that to build stronger team bonds at the Bantam level.

Just my two cents.
Post Reply