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Terrible Ted Lindsay
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Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

Post by Terrible Ted Lindsay »

A vast majority of the Posters on this Forum are unbridled hypocrites. Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING! Now in my estimation OPINIONS are a separate entity from criticism. Here's what I'm talking about. Last year I came to a Tournament held in Dulth MN. I saw a bunch of Blades 2000's play several games. In those games I saw the best passing and position playing little guys I had ever seen. Better than half the High School teams I had seen that year. In fact, the best passing little guys I had EVER seen in my 40 plus years in hockey as a Coach, Scout , and Player. Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?

That brings us around to 'Shaking The Bush', this weekend their is a 2000 Tourney with 2 six Team Brackets! Every local strong team but the Machine are in this Tourney. Somehow, someway, the Blades ended up all by their lonesome in one bracket with almost no competition, the other bracket has the 4 other strongest teams in it. Wonder how that bracketing came about eh? One bracket will separate the Contenders from the Pretenders! And the other bracket will be a cakewalk for the Blades. Without a crossover, the Blades won't get a chance to choke under pressure like they did in The Meltdown and Chicago. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when we 'Shake The Bush' this weekend for the 2000's Tourney?
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Post by hockeyoldtimer »

Is this the 2000 Blades tournament? Did they make the brackets? Sounds like some sour grapes or just plain Blades envy. Afraid they will beat your son's team? Get over it. . . Let the 10 year olds play and see how it comes out.
Pylon
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Post by Pylon »

Wonder how that bracketing came about eh?
Spend any time in Canada? :P
EnjoyTheShow
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

Post by EnjoyTheShow »

Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote: In fact, the best passing little guys I had EVER seen in my 40 plus years in hockey as a Coach, Scout , and Player. Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?
You need to get out a little more! Where you you coaching, scouting, playing? It's ok to have an opinion, but when that opinion is insane, you lose any credibility
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

Post by muckandgrind »

Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote:A vast majority of the Posters on this Forum are unbridled hypocrites. Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING! Now in my estimation OPINIONS are a separate entity from criticism. Here's what I'm talking about. Last year I came to a Tournament held in Dulth MN. I saw a bunch of Blades 2000's play several games. In those games I saw the best passing and position playing little guys I had ever seen. Better than half the High School teams I had seen that year. In fact, the best passing little guys I had EVER seen in my 40 plus years in hockey as a Coach, Scout , and Player. Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?
...You lost me there....... :shock:
Deep Breath

Post by Deep Breath »

That coach that you write of, that took his team of "half the talent" and won the Meltdown, got rolled by the Orange 9-1 in the AAA according to somebody else on these boards. Not sure that it means much, but before we send the Icemen coach to replace Don Lucia, let's keep a modicum of perspective.
High Off The Glass
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

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Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote:A vast majority of the Posters on this Forum are unbridled hypocrites. Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING! Now in my estimation OPINIONS are a separate entity from criticism. Here's what I'm talking about. Last year I came to a Tournament held in Dulth MN. I saw a bunch of Blades 2000's play several games.
In those games I saw the best passing and position playing little guys I had ever seen. Better than half the High School teams I had seen that year. In fact, the best passing little guys I had EVER seen in my 40 plus years in hockey as a Coach, Scout , and Player.
Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?

That brings us around to 'Shaking The Bush', this weekend their is a 2000 Tourney with 2 six Team Brackets! Every local strong team but the Machine are in this Tourney. Somehow, someway, the Blades ended up all by their lonesome in one bracket with almost no competition, the other bracket has the 4 other strongest teams in it. Wonder how that bracketing came about eh? One bracket will separate the Contenders from the Pretenders! And the other bracket will be a cakewalk for the Blades. Without a crossover, the Blades won't get a chance to choke under pressure like they did in The Meltdown and Chicago. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when we 'Shake The Bush' this weekend for the 2000's Tourney?
Better than most high school teams, we're talking about then 8-9 year old kids. Where did you do most of your "scouting" in Hawaii. When you were a "scout" what diamond in the ruff did you find.

So three players leave this greatest passing team you ever seen from high school down to squirts and suddenly twelve kids can no longer pass? Bring back Roddy or shall I say Terrible Ted.
Deep Breath

Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

Post by Deep Breath »

Better than most high school teams, we're talking about then 8-9 year old kids. Where did you do most of your "scouting" in Hawaii. When you were a "scout" what diamond in the ruff did you find.

So three players leave this greatest passing team you ever seen from high school down to squirts and suddenly twelve kids can no longer pass? Bring back Roddy or shall I say Terrible Ted.[/quote]


HOTG: Agreed. Don't want to turn yet another thread into a "bash this team, or this individual", but when the hyperbole gets to be as dramatic as this, we all need to take a Deep Breath.
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

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Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote:Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING!
Generalize much?
Be kind. Rewind.
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

Post by Anklebeater »

Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote:A vast majority of the Posters on this Forum are unbridled hypocrites. Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING! Now in my estimation OPINIONS are a separate entity from criticism. Here's what I'm talking about. Last year I came to a Tournament held in Dulth MN. I saw a bunch of Blades 2000's play several games. In those games I saw the best passing and position playing little guys I had ever seen. Better than half the High School teams I had seen that year. In fact, the best passing little guys I had EVER seen in my 40 plus years in hockey as a Coach, Scout , and Player. Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?

That brings us around to 'Shaking The Bush', this weekend their is a 2000 Tourney with 2 six Team Brackets! Every local strong team but the Machine are in this Tourney. Somehow, someway, the Blades ended up all by their lonesome in one bracket with almost no competition, the other bracket has the 4 other strongest teams in it. Wonder how that bracketing came about eh? One bracket will separate the Contenders from the Pretenders! And the other bracket will be a cakewalk for the Blades. Without a crossover, the Blades won't get a chance to choke under pressure like they did in The Meltdown and Chicago. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when we 'Shake The Bush' this weekend for the 2000's Tourney?
The Blades set up the brackets...Let's give them confidence as they are preparing to represent us in the Brick! At least a few of them anyway!
Terrible Ted Lindsay
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

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[quote="High Off The Glass"][quote="Terrible Ted Lindsay"]A vast majority of the Posters on this Forum are unbridled hypocrites. Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING! Now in my estimation OPINIONS are a separate entity from criticism. Here's what I'm talking about. Last year I came to a Tournament held in Dulth MN. I saw a bunch of Blades 2000's play several games. [quote]In those games I saw the best passing and position playing little guys I had ever seen. Better than half the High School teams I had seen that year. In fact, the best passing little guys I had EVER seen in my 40 plus years in hockey as a Coach, Scout , and Player.[/quote] Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?

That brings us around to 'Shaking The Bush', this weekend their is a 2000 Tourney with 2 six Team Brackets! Every local strong team but the Machine are in this Tourney. Somehow, someway, the Blades ended up all by their lonesome in one bracket with almost no competition, the other bracket has the 4 other strongest teams in it. Wonder how that bracketing came about eh? One bracket will separate the Contenders from the Pretenders! And the other bracket will be a cakewalk for the Blades. Without a crossover, the Blades won't get a chance to choke under pressure like they did in The Meltdown and Chicago. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when we 'Shake The Bush' this weekend for the 2000's Tourney?[/quote]

Better than most high school teams, we're talking about then 8-9 year old kids. Where did you do most of your "scouting" in Hawaii. When you were a "scout" what diamond in the ruff did you find.

So three players leave this greatest passing team you ever seen from high school down to squirts and suddenly twelve kids can no longer pass? Bring back Roddy or shall I say Terrible Ted.[/quote]

Believe it or not I discovered Bobby Hull back in my playing days! When I spotted 'The Golden Jet", he wasn't fast enough to ever play in the NHL, so I talked to his dad and got him to take some speed skating classes over the summer when he was 12 years old! Dennis was just a toddler! How's that for finding a diamond in the ruff Pal? I gave my right wing Gordie a few tips too, maybe you've heard of him! I don't know if u can comprehend this 'Einstein', but kids are never too young to teach a(how to pass the puck b) when to pass the puck c) who to pass the puck to d) where to be in position to receive a pass. Can u understand that Bozo? I didn't think so!!!! Let's talk again after this weekend eh? One of us will be eating crow, and I don't think it's gonna be me!!
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Re: Let's shake the bush and see what rolls out?

Post by High Off The Glass »

Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote:
High Off The Glass wrote:
Terrible Ted Lindsay wrote:A vast majority of the Posters on this Forum are unbridled hypocrites. Every single poster says it's all about the kids having fun and playing hockey. Then ALL of u go on to criicize anyone and everyone about EVERYTHING! Now in my estimation OPINIONS are a separate entity from criticism. Here's what I'm talking about. Last year I came to a Tournament held in Dulth MN. I saw a bunch of Blades 2000's play several games. Then I find out this year that The Blades replaced the Coach, who won the Duluth Tournament by the way. Why would they do that? Now I find out this year that the same Coach, who was fired, won The Meltdown Tournament for the 2000's(with half the talent he had last year), which his old Team,The Blades was in! Now this is an opinion, not a criticism, Why would the Blades let this guy go and risk losing 3 of their best players, who went with him, for somebody's ego? Anybody got an answer for that one? I'd love to hear it?

That brings us around to 'Shaking The Bush', this weekend their is a 2000 Tourney with 2 six Team Brackets! Every local strong team but the Machine are in this Tourney. Somehow, someway, the Blades ended up all by their lonesome in one bracket with almost no competition, the other bracket has the 4 other strongest teams in it. Wonder how that bracketing came about eh? One bracket will separate the Contenders from the Pretenders! And the other bracket will be a cakewalk for the Blades. Without a crossover, the Blades won't get a chance to choke under pressure like they did in The Meltdown and Chicago. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when we 'Shake The Bush' this weekend for the 2000's Tourney?
Better than most high school teams, we're talking about then 8-9 year old kids. Where did you do most of your "scouting" in Hawaii. When you were a "scout" what diamond in the ruff did you find.

So three players leave this greatest passing team you ever seen from high school down to squirts and suddenly twelve kids can no longer pass? Bring back Roddy or shall I say Terrible Ted.
Believe it or not I discovered Bobby Hull back in my playing days! When I spotted 'The Golden Jet", he wasn't fast enough to ever play in the NHL, so I talked to his dad and got him to take some speed skating classes over the summer when he was 12 years old! Dennis was just a toddler! How's that for finding a diamond in the ruff Pal? I gave my right wing Gordie a few tips too, maybe you've heard of him! I don't know if u can comprehend this 'Einstein', but kids are never too young to teach a(how to pass the puck b) when to pass the puck c) who to pass the puck to d) where to be in position to receive a pass. Can u understand that Bozo? I didn't think so!!!! Let's talk again after this weekend eh? One of us will be eating crow, and I don't think it's gonna be me!!
BM got a new screen name!
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Post by jjackson »

I heard through several grapevines that the coach you are referring to has caused another uproar at the current organization he is in (Icemen) There is more to coaching than winning tournaments. The Machine, the Monopoly and the Blades has more team spirit and passing ability then this team. The Icemen have only 2 good kids and the goalie is one of them. So chill out...there are a lot of good teams and much better coaches out there.
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Post by InigoMontoya »

I heard through several grapevines
Then it must be true.


more team spirit
???
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Post by jjackson »

[quote="InigoMontoya"][quote]I heard through several grapevines [/quote]

Then it must be true.

Yes is must be, unless you know different?

[quote]more team spirit[/quote]

???[/quote]

???


Stated perfectly:
HOTG: Agreed. Don't want to turn yet another thread into a "bash this team, or this individual", but when the hyperbole gets to be as dramatic as this, we all need to take a Deep Breath.[/quote]
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Post by hockey_is_a_choice »

Terrible Ted,

You didn’t accomplish what you set out to do here. You start out with the premise that there’s too much criticism on this board, but then you go on to try to mask your criticism as opinion. All criticism can fit into the category of opinion and most negative opinions can fit into the category of criticism. Here’s my take. We are all paying a lot of money for different hockey programs. This means we earned the right to voice our criticisms/opinions, regardless of whether they are good or bad. I, too, have been critical of certain programs and coaches. Unfortunately, too often, you have to make mistakes before you find the right fit for your athlete.

My son is playing on two teams this summer. Both are great fits for him, finally! The first program is run by a former NHL player who is wonderful with the boys and stresses development over the win-loss record. Playing in games is sometimes hard, especially when the score is lopsided against your son’s team, but the development piece is worth every penny. (I remind myself that three or four years from now when my son is playing high school hockey (hopefully) no one will care about the record of his 2010 summer AAA program). The other team is more competitive and led by a great coach and a fantastic program head. My son likes both programs (finally!) and, more importantly, has great role models. For those who criticize certain AAA teams, keep searching for better programs, they’re out there and you can find a good fit for your son. For those who criticize BM, remember he is a service provider. If you like a program he offers, buy it. If you don’t, sign your son up for a different program. BM and other hockey providers are no different than my cleaning lady or yard guy, they provide a service. I’m free to hire them or fire them. I’m also free to express my criticisms/opinions.

We are all entitled to our own stupid opinions, which is why this is a great country.
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Post by Pucksahater »

ETS, scott your coming on here and questioning credibility"really".
EnjoyTheShow
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Post by EnjoyTheShow »

Pucksahater wrote:ETS, scott your coming on here and questioning credibility"really".
Do you have any other hobbies? Every post you have on here seems to be about me or the Monopoly coach. I appreciate having a fan and I'm sure he does too. That said, if you are going to obsess over something, it would be good for you to get your facts right. Given you seem to know Scott, I am a little jealous and I want you to have my pictures on your wall too. maybe we should set up a photo opp. where all 3 of us could where suits with orange ties. Unfortunately I will be traveling during this weekends tournament. The Easton cup isn't too far away though.
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Post by Pylon »

hockey_is_a_choice wrote:Terrible Ted,

You didn’t accomplish what you set out to do here. You start out with the premise that there’s too much criticism on this board, but then you go on to try to mask your criticism as opinion. All criticism can fit into the category of opinion and most negative opinions can fit into the category of criticism. Here’s my take. We are all paying a lot of money for different hockey programs. This means we earned the right to voice our criticisms/opinions, regardless of whether they are good or bad. I, too, have been critical of certain programs and coaches. Unfortunately, too often, you have to make mistakes before you find the right fit for your athlete.

My son is playing on two teams this summer. Both are great fits for him, finally! The first program is run by a former NHL player who is wonderful with the boys and stresses development over the win-loss record. Playing in games is sometimes hard, especially when the score is lopsided against your son’s team, but the development piece is worth every penny. (I remind myself that three or four years from now when my son is playing high school hockey (hopefully) no one will care about the record of his 2010 summer AAA program). The other team is more competitive and led by a great coach and a fantastic program head. My son likes both programs (finally!) and, more importantly, has great role models. For those who criticize certain AAA teams, keep searching for better programs, they’re out there and you can find a good fit for your son. For those who criticize BM, remember he is a service provider. If you like a program he offers, buy it. If you don’t, sign your son up for a different program. BM and other hockey providers are no different than my cleaning lady or yard guy, they provide a service. I’m free to hire them or fire them. I’m also free to express my criticisms/opinions.

We are all entitled to our own stupid opinions, which is why this is a great country.
That was a great post!!
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