2000 MACHINE VS 2000 BLADES

takeitwide · Post by **takeitwide** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:08 pm

letsroll11 wrote:Who Cares? Machine, Blades, Machine, Blades - give it up please...

I guess your right there is only one team out there STMA! But in the end who really cares

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:26 pm

I have read this thread and just feel I need to ask this. HockeyDad41, are you the father of a kid born in 2000? Is this your oldest or only child? Did you play hockey?

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:11 pm

BadgerBob82 wrote:I have read this thread and just feel I need to ask this. HockeyDad41, are you the father of a kid born in 2000? Is this your oldest or only child? Did you play hockey?

BadgerBob82 - Let me save you the agony of trying to figure out HockeyDad41 he is all the above plus he gets extra credit for being an idiot

GreatOne99 · Post by **GreatOne99** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:38 pm

High Off The Glass wrote:
noIinteam wrote:machine coach is excellent.

team has extremeley low turnover - kids love the coach - all top players wanted to come back - add in a solid addition from the blades + 2-3 good hockey players from north metro -- 2010 should be decent

would be great if blades would commit to 3 or 4 game series over the summer? hear blades are all about FUN so why not?
Please elaberate. Excellent in what way? Explain how a parent coach, with very limited playing experience (if any, and I'm being kind), is going to develop your son. To be honest, a trained monkey can take the best 8-9 year old kids in the metro area coach and win hockey games, but years down the road, will these kids develop under a coach with no real coaching or playing experience. You must ask yourself, with the money your spending in that program, do you deserve better than parent coaching? Don't you already get that from association hockey? I'm not trying to turn this into another Blade vs. Machine thread, but it's a question worth asking

I'd love to read NIINTEAM's answer to HOTG's post. It's a good point worth discussing. Pay a lot of money to play top notch AAA hockey, and you have the choice (no pun intended) to play for a well respected coach (2000 blades), or a parent coach (2000 Machine), with no real coaching or playing background. I guess in the end, what experience does Bernie McBain have? I can answer that one, NONE!

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:13 pm

BadgerBob82 wrote:I have read this thread and just feel I need to ask this. HockeyDad41, are you the father of a kid born in 2000? Is this your oldest or only child? Did you play hockey?

All because I asked about a AAA team?

I just heard they had a really good coach this year for the 2000's.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:15 pm

HockeyDad41 wrote:I keep hearing how great the 2000 coach is for Skate to Excellence 2000 team. Anyone know about this program?

Good coach, great with kids(no screaming crap). Coaching was a small part of the Miracles success though.... Loads of talent on the team.

offside14 · Post by **offside14** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:12 am

GreatOne99 wrote:
High Off The Glass wrote:
noIinteam wrote:machine coach is excellent.

team has extremeley low turnover - kids love the coach - all top players wanted to come back - add in a solid addition from the blades + 2-3 good hockey players from north metro -- 2010 should be decent

would be great if blades would commit to 3 or 4 game series over the summer? hear blades are all about FUN so why not?
Please elaberate. Excellent in what way? Explain how a parent coach, with very limited playing experience (if any, and I'm being kind), is going to develop your son. To be honest, a trained monkey can take the best 8-9 year old kids in the metro area coach and win hockey games, but years down the road, will these kids develop under a coach with no real coaching or playing experience. You must ask yourself, with the money your spending in that program, do you deserve better than parent coaching? Don't you already get that from association hockey? I'm not trying to turn this into another Blade vs. Machine thread, but it's a question worth asking
I'd love to read NIINTEAM's answer to HOTG's post. It's a good point worth discussing. Pay a lot of money to play top notch AAA hockey, and you have the choice (no pun intended) to play for a well respected coach (2000 blades), or a parent coach (2000 Machine), with no real coaching or playing background. I guess in the end, what experience does Bernie McBain have? I can answer that one, NONE!

Greatone99, Dude you need to fire up some happy pills. As per usual here you are again ripping someone or something you know nothing about. You've ripped everyone from Eden Prarie to STMA and now the Machine their coaches and the product, yet again never having anything to back your comments up with. Give us all some insight as to why your evaluation of anything holds water. What is your qualification to outrageous judgements. Certainly you must have coached or played at a minimum D1 or nhl hockey the way you talk.

inthenet · Post by **inthenet** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:01 am

takeitwide wrote:
noIinteam wrote:machine coach is excellent.

team has extremeley low turnover - kids love the coach - all top players wanted to come back - add in a solid addition from the blades + 2-3 good hockey players from north metro -- 2010 should be decent

would be great if blades would commit to 3 or 4 game series over the summer? hear blades are all about FUN so why not?
It's funny rumor has it that the Machine coach was talking to the Blades with his 97,00. There is no comparison between coaches Blades have a coach with a proven track record and serious player development skills. Although he will have his work cut out with the 2000. As for the 3 or 4 game series didnt Machine try that with the 99 Blades and it back fired on them?

No backfires, just really good hockey!!!

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:31 am

MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:I keep hearing how great the 2000 coach is for Skate to Excellence 2000 team. Anyone know about this program?
Good coach, great with kids(no screaming crap). Coaching was a small part of the Miracles success though.... Loads of talent on the team.

Thanks. Do you think they will be able to compete at a high level this summer?

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:55 am

HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:I keep hearing how great the 2000 coach is for Skate to Excellence 2000 team. Anyone know about this program?
Good coach, great with kids(no screaming crap). Coaching was a small part of the Miracles success though.... Loads of talent on the team.
Thanks. Do you think they will be able to compete at a high level this summer?

Among the best if not the best. I know it sounds crazy right now....
My guess would be
Machine
STE
Blades
Miracle
Icemen
Like I said... Just a guess

GreatOne99 · Post by **GreatOne99** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:14 am

offside14 wrote:
GreatOne99 wrote:
High Off The Glass wrote: Please elaberate. Excellent in what way? Explain how a parent coach, with very limited playing experience (if any, and I'm being kind), is going to develop your son. To be honest, a trained monkey can take the best 8-9 year old kids in the metro area coach and win hockey games, but years down the road, will these kids develop under a coach with no real coaching or playing experience. You must ask yourself, with the money your spending in that program, do you deserve better than parent coaching? Don't you already get that from association hockey? I'm not trying to turn this into another Blade vs. Machine thread, but it's a question worth asking
I'd love to read NIINTEAM's answer to HOTG's post. It's a good point worth discussing. Pay a lot of money to play top notch AAA hockey, and you have the choice (no pun intended) to play for a well respected coach (2000 blades), or a parent coach (2000 Machine), with no real coaching or playing background. I guess in the end, what experience does Bernie McBain have? I can answer that one, NONE!
Greatone99, Dude you need to fire up some happy pills. As per usual here you are again ripping someone or something you know nothing about. You've ripped everyone from Eden Prarie to STMA and now the Machine their coaches and the product, yet again never having anything to back your comments up with. Give us all some insight as to why your evaluation of anything holds water. What is your qualification to outrageous judgements. Certainly you must have coached or played at a minimum D1 or nhl hockey the way you talk.

What is so outrageous about my comments. Look at the two head coaches, and compare qualifications. Simple, no brainer!

KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES · Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:54 am

gotothenet00 wrote:Who will have this year's bragging rights?

Machine or Blades

All I know is my dad can beat up your dad. Can I get a juice box please??

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:30 pm

KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote:
gotothenet00 wrote:Who will have this year's bragging rights?

Machine or Blades
All I know is my dad can beat up your dad. Can I get a juice box please??

Many of these players are A squirts already. Some will be in peewees as 5th graders. They compete at a higher level in the winter and the summer. Way over your head

crawford · Post by **crawford** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:27 pm

Blades lost 6 kids to Iceman, 1 to Machine and did not bring back 2 or 3 others? This top team of last year will have a very different look to it this year.

KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES · Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:17 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:
KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote:
gotothenet00 wrote:Who will have this year's bragging rights?

Machine or Blades
All I know is my dad can beat up your dad. Can I get a juice box please??
Many of these players are A squirts already. Some will be in peewees as 5th graders. They compete at a higher level in the winter and the summer. Way over your head

A little sensative Mr. Bo Dangles. I know these are 9& 10 year olds. Which is my point. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Talk about living vicariously through your kids.... Watch this Don Lucia speech and maybe it will help put things into perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFsF0Z9EKDg

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:43 pm

KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote: All I know is my dad can beat up your dad. Can I get a juice box please??
Many of these players are A squirts already. Some will be in peewees as 5th graders. They compete at a higher level in the winter and the summer. Way over your head
A little sensative Mr. Bo Dangles. I know these are 9& 10 year olds. Which is my point. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Talk about living vicariously through your kids.... Watch this Don Lucia speech and maybe it will help put things into perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFsF0Z9EKDg

Thank you, I have now seen the light. Kids this age should never be challenged by other talented players. The best players in the world always played only in-house rec hockey. Michigan has always been light years behind us because they play rec hockey only, not like MN that has been heavy into AAA forever. Hockey family kids never turn into good hockey players, they are exposed to way too much hockey. Parents that try to give their kids all the tools (sports, best education, good parenting, life lessons) to be successful in life are wasting their time.... It always backfires. I feel terrible forcing my kids to play since they hate hockey. Thanks again, I'm now a former hockey dad.

EnjoyTheShow · Post by **EnjoyTheShow** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:46 pm

Did the Monopoly fall apart? I thought hey were a top 3 team last year. Then again I only saw them at the easton cup and meltdown.

InigoMontoya · Post by **InigoMontoya** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:00 am

MrBoDangles Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: 2000 MACHINE VS 2000 BLADES

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KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote:
gotothenet00 wrote:
Who will have this year's bragging rights?

Machine or Blades

All I know is my dad can beat up your dad. Can I get a juice box please??

Many of these players are A squirts already. Some will be in peewees as 5th graders. They compete at a higher level in the winter and the summer. Way over your head

A little sensative Mr. Bo Dangles. I know these are 9& 10 year olds. Which is my point. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Talk about living vicariously through your kids.... Watch this Don Lucia speech and maybe it will help put things into perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFsF0Z9EKDg

Thank you, I have now seen the light. Kids this age should never be challenged by other talented players. The best players in the world always played only in-house rec hockey. Michigan has always been light years behind us because they play rec hockey only, not like MN that has been heavy into AAA forever. Hockey family kids never turn into good hockey players, they are exposed to way too much hockey. Parents that try to give their kids all the tools (sports, best education, good parenting, life lessons) to be successful in life are wasting their time.... It always backfires. I feel terrible forcing my kids to play since they hate hockey. Thanks again, I'm now a former hockey dad.

You can tell the 2010 summer hockey season has begun. That's great.

KITP - you need to stop reading the summer hockey threads. The kids have fun, the parents have fun, and quite honestly, not only do the parents not agree with your assesment, but pulling out that tired old Lucia bit just lost you any credibility you may have thought you had. Pick another user name and start again.

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:27 am

MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote: Good coach, great with kids(no screaming crap). Coaching was a small part of the Miracles success though.... Loads of talent on the team.
Thanks. Do you think they will be able to compete at a high level this summer?
Among the best if not the best. I know it sounds crazy right now....
My guess would be
Machine
STE
Blades
Miracle
Icemen
Like I said... Just a guess

Wow - what happened with STE for you to put them that high?

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:39 am

Here we go!!!!! I have to say Reebok Nationals. Our 3rd year with them. My 94 is done but was replaced by my 02[Practice player on 2000] Can't wait I love summer hockey almost as much as all your comments.

dogeatdog1 · Post by **dogeatdog1** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:12 pm

old goalie85 wrote:Here we go!!!!! I have to say Reebok Nationals. Our 3rd year with them. My 94 is done but was replaced by my 02[Practice player on 2000] Can't wait I love summer hockey almost as much as all your comments.

Your 02 is playing two years up... Must be a Phenom...

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:46 pm

Youngest of five . Only practice player will not be on tourny team. Still gets the 80 hrs of ice the team gets for practice. [if it is not on Baseball, or soccer nights] Nothing great, just has been chasing older bros his whole life. My point was that reebok should be a top 8-10 type program.[ from a development point]

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:02 pm

old goalie85 wrote:Here we go!!!!! I have to say Reebok Nationals. Our 3rd year with them. My 94 is done but was replaced by my 02[Practice player on 2000] Can't wait I love summer hockey almost as much as all your comments.

Being from Forest Lake.. Why would you have your son practice with a team from the Richfield/Bloomington area? The NSC is 15 minutes away and is the largest hockey complex in the world. They also house many rapidly rising AAA programs. Just curious.......

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:06 pm

HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote: Thanks. Do you think they will be able to compete at a high level this summer?
Among the best if not the best. I know it sounds crazy right now....
My guess would be
Machine
STE
Blades
Miracle
Icemen
Like I said... Just a guess
Wow - what happened with STE for you to put them that high?

Great Roster and very good coaches.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:23 pm

Oldest started with them and it has turned into a nice fit for us with other sports. I met Steve " Yuro" many years ago and when he came to the metro we got together, I looked at the program and was impressed with the developmental side of it. [I have heard many great things about programs at Schwans.] It is in fact check-book hockey and I like the way they do business. The F.L. varsity started a S.T.P. program for Squirts on up that is very reasonable and may become the option we mayuse in the future.