Edina v. Jefferson - 2AA Final

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Who will take section 2AA?

Edina
32
52%
Jefferson
30
48%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: Update on the game.

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Lakeviewing wrote:Any update on this game. Fox hockey is down
PoNd HocKey ChAmP67 wrote:
GopherHockey wrote: And Woodley looks fair at best. 1-0 Hornets.
Beat me too it
4-1 Edina in the 3rd.
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Post by karl(east) »

I think we can officially declare an "Edynasty" over 2AA. Considering all they lost after last year, it's a testament to the depth of this program that they can come back and roll on to the state tournament. Who knows, maybe this is finally their year, now that the pressure of the past few is gone.

And for Jefferson, it's crushing defeat in the final once again, which has to be hard to swallow. Congrats to a quality senior class for bringing this program a lot of hype over the past few years and best of luck wherever you end up.
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Post by MNHockeyFan »

I left when it was 4-0 Edina, went to the games mainly to see Minnetonka (impressive!). Jefferson had some of the worst turnovers you'll ever see, and on one of their power plays they didn't even come close to getting a shot off. I'm sure they're a lot better than they showed tonight, then maybe not?
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Post by deanertronterry »

karl(east) wrote:I think we can officially declare an "Edynasty" over 2AA. Considering all they lost after last year, it's a testament to the depth of this program that they can come back and roll on to the state tournament. Who knows, maybe this is finally their year, now that the pressure of the past few is gone.

And for Jefferson, it's crushing defeat in the final once again, which has to be hard to swallow. Congrats to a quality senior class for bringing this program a lot of hype over the past few years and best of luck wherever you end up.
Quality post east regarding Jefferson. I know a lot of the overrated posts will come along just as they did last year. However, this group deserves a lot of credit over the past couple years. Although they never got it done and got to state they had a lot of big wins and deserved the hype.
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Post by canttouchthis »

Very good class when you look at personal stats. 2 section finals in 2 years but ran into good Edina teams both years. Thats a hump you would hope to break once especially this year after what Edina lost and what Jefferson had coming back. Again it goes to goaltending. You need a big save every once and awhile just like you need big goals at times. And tonight jefferson had neither. Tough one to swallow after last years debacle.
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Post by espnmobile8 »

Not all Woodley's fault but my goodness.
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Re: Edina v. Jefferson - 2AA Final

Post by selloutcrowd99 »

Zamman wrote:
espnmobile8 wrote:Who will win?

Edina had an insane amount of shots on net in the Semifinals, 52, but could only bury 3. If they get 52 shots on net against the Jags...it's over.

Although followthepuck says Jefferson had 33 shots and Burnsville had 44, I'm lead to believe that they accidently switched these stats because for anyone who watched the game, it was obvious Jefferson had the most shots and the scoreboard showed these same numbers but for the opposite team.

Both teams must have confidence going into the final, but I'd say Jefferson has a little more momentum considering the way they won (OT) and the monkey-on-their-back type of team that Burnsville presented. However, Edina did beat a very good AHA team (they're still good even without those dopes) so we'll have to see. I'm liking the re-match from last year, should be a great atmosphere.
Non factor, you are unaware of the truth and it does not concern you or me.

Edina is still on a mission since failing the last two years. Last year with Budish they dominate. This year they beat Jefferson by 3 and the place empties out early in the third period.
I have seen Jefferson now and I do not feel they have what it takes to stop Edina. I would rather see Edina lose, but don't think Jefferson would be that team.
The truth hurts
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Re: Edina v. Jefferson - 2AA Final

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Zamman wrote:This year they beat Jefferson by 3 and the place empties out early in the third period.
I have to say Zamman, I'm impressed.
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Re: Edina v. Jefferson - 2AA Final

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espnmobile8 wrote:
Zamman wrote:This year they beat Jefferson by 3 and the place empties out early in the third period.
I have to say Zamman, I'm impressed.
I don't know, I think it emptied out as soon as it hit 4-0 in middle of the second. He was way off on that part! :wink:
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Post by Doc Holliday »

I thought Edina looked kind of nervous at the start but started moving their feet a bit more & found a flow as the 1st period went on. The 2nd period was taking advantage of their size & Jefferson mistakes.

I don't know if I saw Pauluk or Faust off the ice together at one time for Jefferson. Last year, I distinctly remember Pauluk getting abused by Anders Lee multiple times; I thought he was better this year, but still was physically mismatched deep in the defensive zone. I thought coming in that this was Edina's biggest advantage & would make the biggest hay: physicially deep in the Jefferson zone. They took advantage of it twice in the 2nd (perhaps Taft's goal wasn't down low, but it was a block & physically creating the opportunity & goal).

Jefferson had some chances to get it down to 2 in the 3rd, but Edina played it pretty close to the vest, I thought, in the 3rd. I think the difference was Edina's depth at both forward & defense. Jefferson didn't have near the depth & their best players weren't good enough to overcome that. This depth is why I wouldn't be shocked if Edina took down a team like Tonka (Tonka's the best team, but Edina has the depth to play with them).
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Post by toptitty96 »

deanertronterry wrote:
toptitty96 wrote:
starmvp wrote: If Edina shows up, regardless of what Jefferson does, Edina will win
I feel like this is true when a team has more talent. And Edina clearly does not. I think that if both teams have their best game, Jefferson's best is better. Let's face it, Herbert's best game is a little better than Taft's.
I'd say that Herbert is in a completely different league than Taft. Herbert's best game blows Taft's away.
Exactly what I was saying. Too bad it didn't show in the game.
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Post by canttouchthis »

Edina looked very sound. Thats what you need when you play a team with some top end talent on it. You need to be tough and not intimidated by them. Edina could make some noise in the tourney.
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Post by toptitty96 »

canttouchthis wrote:Edina looked very sound. Thats what you need when you play a team with some top end talent on it. You need to be tough and not intimidated by them. Edina could make some noise in the tourney.
No doubt about it. They forecheck hard, they're fast, and can play a physical game. Plus they've got some good coaching and seem to be a really well put together team.
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Post by The51 »

toptitty96 wrote:
deanertronterry wrote:
toptitty96 wrote: I feel like this is true when a team has more talent. And Edina clearly does not. I think that if both teams have their best game, Jefferson's best is better. Let's face it, Herbert's best game is a little better than Taft's.
I'd say that Herbert is in a completely different league than Taft. Herbert's best game blows Taft's away.
Exactly what I was saying. Too bad it didn't show in the game.
i dont know if his best game completely blows out tafts, taft is still a very good player, but i do agree herbert is better
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Post by hiddenman »

MNHockeyFan
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I left when it was 4-0 Edina, went to the games mainly to see Minnetonka (impressive!). Jefferson had some of the worst turnovers you'll ever see, and on one of their power plays they didn't even come close to getting a shot off. I'm sure they're a lot better than they showed tonight, then maybe not?............I'm sorry but i have to comment on how much of a trend this is over the past 8 years, jefferson not showing up in the big game. Either there is a large serious of coincidences going on for this streak to happen or the coaching staff doesn't seem to know how to motivate.[/i][/u][/quote][/code][/list][/url]
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Post by canttouchthis »

I dont think jefferson is the only school to have this happen to them. Look at Edina the last 2 years...All the skill in the world and lose the past 2 years in state. Sure Jefferson has lost in 2 section final games but its not like those 2 games are to a bad team.
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Post by canttouchthis »

and herbert is by far the better player. 55pts compared to tafts 25, going to UMD and was on the US team in 2008. Plus mr hockey finalist and nhl draft prospect. Taft has none of these. He is still a good player but Herbert has all the credentials that he does not.
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Post by hiddenman »

i said 8 years not 2
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Post by northwoods oldtimer »

hiddenman wrote:MNHockeyFan
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject:
I left when it was 4-0 Edina, went to the games mainly to see Minnetonka (impressive!). Jefferson had some of the worst turnovers you'll ever see, and on one of their power plays they didn't even come close to getting a shot off. I'm sure they're a lot better than they showed tonight, then maybe not?............I'm sorry but i have to comment on how much of a trend this is over the past 8 years, jefferson not showing up in the big game. Either there is a large serious of coincidences going on for this streak to happen or the coaching staff doesn't seem to know how to motivate.[/i][/u]
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Don't you guys know that 16,17 and 18 year olds are supposed to have the game of hockey all figured out by now. :wink: It is only at the NHL level where coaching has an impact on performance of teams. :wink: Yehhhhhh riiiiiiight!!!! I agree with you on this issue great coaches do not just fall out of the sky.
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Post by Slap Shot »

btw, I know Ankeny split time this year, but what's the story behind him not playing any of the section games?
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Post by starmvp »

Slap Shot wrote:btw, I know Ankeny split time this year, but what's the story behind him not playing any of the section games?
Coach obviously sees something he likes in Girard
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Post by Slap Shot »

starmvp wrote:
Slap Shot wrote:btw, I know Ankeny split time this year, but what's the story behind him not playing any of the section games?
Coach obviously sees something he likes in Girard
I could have guessed that, but was wondering if there was something more to it or not.
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Post by canttouchthis »

hiddenman last 8 years bud they have done pretty well. They havnt won it all but they have made it to what 4-5 section finals and made it to state twice. With the section they have thats not bad. 2001 made it to the semis of state, 2005 losing in state in to future champ. 5 lake conference titles. Yea they ran into some tough teams that they need to figure it out against but i would say some of it is that they just lost to better teams. Coaching is important in high school hockey but sometimes the kids gotta take charge.
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Post by Goldfishdude »

karl(east) wrote:I think we can officially declare an "Edynasty" over 2AA. Considering all they lost after last year, it's a testament to the depth of this program that they can come back and roll on to the state tournament. Who knows, maybe this is finally their year, now that the pressure of the past few is gone.

And for Jefferson, it's crushing defeat in the final once again, which has to be hard to swallow. Congrats to a quality senior class for bringing this program a lot of hype over the past few years and best of luck wherever you end up.
Very well stated, Karl....
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