Seniors on JV
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You can all talk real tough about not allowing seniors to play JV until you are that senior that wants to continue skating and working hard with his friends he has played hockey with for 10 years but just never had the varsity skill. Or the parent that has the hard working fun loving senior hockey player that got displaced because of a promising new sophomore! Then your tune will change! I have experienced and seen it all. And it is not fun to watch.
Back when I played high school sports all the other sport activities had freshman teams, JV teams and Varsity teams. No freshman ever played varsity and maybe one sophomore made the team. Varsity was for upper classmen that had been with the program for years and were mature. Hockey was a newer sport so the numbers were not as high and we needed under classmen to fill the team. That has changed.
Now days 90% of the coaches out there are trying to make these magical winning teams by bringing in freshmen and sophomores and displacing the upper classmen (if the talent is equal the upper classmen is displaced) Then all you hear from these coaches during interviews is that "we have a young program and are developing them". NO YOU DON'T and NO YOU ARE NOT!
You CHOSE to have a young team by bringing in under classmen and you NEVER developed them because you displace the mature upper classmen players when ever a younger promising player rolls into school.
I laugh every-time I hear this crap. Tell the freshman to go play Bantams or Junior Gold until he matures or a spot opens up. All talent being equal play the mature senior that has earned the spot. It is his right to play. If these Juniors and Seniors are not getting better, maybe you are not developing them.....maybe you are not as good of a coach as you think you are.
Like I said wait until it actually happens to you or someone close to you before you voice your opinion!
Yes I played hockey all 4 years in high school. Freshman -JV, Sophomore - JV/Varsity, Junior and Senior - Varsity
Back when I played high school sports all the other sport activities had freshman teams, JV teams and Varsity teams. No freshman ever played varsity and maybe one sophomore made the team. Varsity was for upper classmen that had been with the program for years and were mature. Hockey was a newer sport so the numbers were not as high and we needed under classmen to fill the team. That has changed.
Now days 90% of the coaches out there are trying to make these magical winning teams by bringing in freshmen and sophomores and displacing the upper classmen (if the talent is equal the upper classmen is displaced) Then all you hear from these coaches during interviews is that "we have a young program and are developing them". NO YOU DON'T and NO YOU ARE NOT!
You CHOSE to have a young team by bringing in under classmen and you NEVER developed them because you displace the mature upper classmen players when ever a younger promising player rolls into school.
I laugh every-time I hear this crap. Tell the freshman to go play Bantams or Junior Gold until he matures or a spot opens up. All talent being equal play the mature senior that has earned the spot. It is his right to play. If these Juniors and Seniors are not getting better, maybe you are not developing them.....maybe you are not as good of a coach as you think you are.
Like I said wait until it actually happens to you or someone close to you before you voice your opinion!
Yes I played hockey all 4 years in high school. Freshman -JV, Sophomore - JV/Varsity, Junior and Senior - Varsity
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What ever happened to fielding the best team possible. My son plays jv and is a jr. he is the leading goal scorer, has the most points,leads the team in + - and he will most likely get cut as a sr. The V team is 90% jr's and there are always some good so. and fr. coming up so the numbers game will bite him in the but So there will be a 10th grader playing next year that my son is much better than and he will be done playing hockey for ever. is that fair? the kid just wants to play and jr gold in our area sucks it is a bunch of kids who played B hockey there whole life and dont have a clue.
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Junior Gold "A" hockey is pretty good. The top teams (Edina, Wayzata, Burnsville, Tonka; etc) would beat 90+% of the JV teams and most class "A" high school teams and some smaller AA high school teams.
Ask for a waiver and join the likes of a burnsville, lakeville, or tonka. They all field good JGA teams and have good coaches who care about their players.
Just ask braggenrights, gingerkid69, hipchx, gangstee15, laceemup17 or most other posters on the JGA board.
Ask for a waiver and join the likes of a burnsville, lakeville, or tonka. They all field good JGA teams and have good coaches who care about their players.
Just ask braggenrights, gingerkid69, hipchx, gangstee15, laceemup17 or most other posters on the JGA board.
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I think taking the Senior over a better underclassman is just dumb. Put in the kids that are going to give you the best results.toddy101 wrote:actually, my team is intersting....they play the really bad seniors on varsity. Its kinda a mercy thing, except for the younger players who are better, and get forced to JV.
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Re: Seniors on JV
Eden Prairie doesnt allow any seniors on JV. I dont think they have ever had one on JV. Unless it was way backmurraychadwick wrote:While I tend to agree with you, how far out do you stretch that? What about a junior who will not ever play varsity, or a sophomore. I understand many things can happen physically and mentally between the ages of 15-18, but lets be honest some kids are never gonna be varsity hockey players.<br><br>Do any programs out there have any hard and fast rules against Seniors on JV.<br> <p></p><i></i>
Burnsville doesn't allow seniors on JV. A couple of my good friends got cut their senior year and played J Gold A for Burnsville, a team that went to the state championship game, and i'm sure they had way more fun than they would have playing JV. I agree with the guy who said you just need to move on, IMO playing JV as a senior isn't best for the program, keep younger kids on JV and develop for the future. Seniors on JV just get frustrated with the fact that all their friends are on varsity and their stuck playing with freshman and sophomores.
Lack of Numbers = Seniors on JV
I know of a few schools in the Metro that wouldn't even have a JV team if they didn't have 4-6 Seniors on the JV to fill out a roster.
One team couldn't get any freshmen to tryout (all wanted to stay in Bantams) and they had only 6 sophomores total.
It's a sad fact of life when you don't have any numbers.
Richfield and Kennedy don't even offer JV teams for hockey the last few years.
Now that is sad.
One team couldn't get any freshmen to tryout (all wanted to stay in Bantams) and they had only 6 sophomores total.
It's a sad fact of life when you don't have any numbers.
Richfield and Kennedy don't even offer JV teams for hockey the last few years.
Now that is sad.
Re: dakotakid
I've had 3 sons play hockey. My oldest ended up playing at Stattuck, the middle one played JV and one year of varsity. My youngest gave up the game after bantams due to his academic load and then changed his mind and went out for Jr Gold. Hands down Jr Gold is better than JV. Not even close.blueblood wrote:Junior Gold "A" hockey is pretty good. The top teams (Edina, Wayzata, Burnsville, Tonka; etc) would beat 90+% of the JV teams and most class "A" high school teams and some smaller AA high school teams.
Ask for a waiver and join the likes of a burnsville, lakeville, or tonka. They all field good JGA teams and have good coaches who care about their players.
Just ask braggenrights, gingerkid69, hipchx, gangstee15, laceemup17 or most other posters on the JGA board.
Re: dakotakid
Not the first time I have heard this.WB6162 wrote:I've had 3 sons play hockey. My oldest ended up playing at Stattuck, the middle one played JV and one year of varsity. My youngest gave up the game after bantams due to his academic load and then changed his mind and went out for Jr Gold. Hands down Jr Gold is better than JV. Not even close.blueblood wrote:Junior Gold "A" hockey is pretty good. The top teams (Edina, Wayzata, Burnsville, Tonka; etc) would beat 90+% of the JV teams and most class "A" high school teams and some smaller AA high school teams.
Ask for a waiver and join the likes of a burnsville, lakeville, or tonka. They all field good JGA teams and have good coaches who care about their players.
Just ask braggenrights, gingerkid69, hipchx, gangstee15, laceemup17 or most other posters on the JGA board.
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Re: dakotakid
PuckU126 wrote:Not the first time I have heard this.WB6162 wrote:I've had 3 sons play hockey. My oldest ended up playing at Stattuck, the middle one played JV and one year of varsity. My youngest gave up the game after bantams due to his academic load and then changed his mind and went out for Jr Gold. Hands down Jr Gold is better than JV. Not even close.blueblood wrote:Junior Gold "A" hockey is pretty good. The top teams (Edina, Wayzata, Burnsville, Tonka; etc) would beat 90+% of the JV teams and most class "A" high school teams and some smaller AA high school teams.
Ask for a waiver and join the likes of a burnsville, lakeville, or tonka. They all field good JGA teams and have good coaches who care about their players.
Just ask braggenrights, gingerkid69, hipchx, gangstee15, laceemup17 or most other posters on the JGA board.
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