Wouldnt it be great if Hill Murray lost to MV, WBL or Still.

[HomeBarkingDog]

It kinda bugs me there is so much bigoted trailer trash on this bored.

If you want to hate Hill because their good, fine. If you want to hate them because their green, even better. But to hate them because kids choose Hill over your school is pathetic.

But I suppose its easier to sit back in your double wide and blame something other than your own misgivings....

so ironic that you are calling someone else trailer trash when you cant differentiate between "bored" and "board"

I dont "hate" HM or any private schools for that matter..I just think it would be great to have a public school state tourney

and in my opinioin..all private schools and their accomplishments mean nothing compared to public school, and Ive pointed out why...

Its my opinion...

now back to 2nd grade grammar and reading comprehension for you right?

[stpaul]

Bodyshots, I've spent a considerable number of years in and around Hill-Murray. If your stereotype of kids being forced to go to Hill-Murray by their parents makes you feel better then keep believing it. But I know the opposite is true. Most of the kids there know the expense and sacrifices that their parents have made to send their kids to HM and are thankful.

And to HomeBarkingDog - I was in the HM gym when the 2008 state champs came back to school on Saturday night. The place was packed and the joy and emotion were overwhelming. I was also at Aldrich earlier that year when the 1983 champs were honored. The place was packed with a standing room crowd. Even the WBL fans on the other side applauded. 25 years later and still proud of their accomplishments. It all means a little more than "nothing".

It's been 35 years since private schools joined the MSHSL. That issue was settled long ago. It's time to get over it.

[HomeBarkingDog]

and this thread was not meant to be a "hate" on Hill Murray it has been turned into...

It was meant to root for the public schools to possibly have an all public AA tourney for once in a long while....

HM has been to the state tourney many times..and the one time someone doesnt want them to win..people turn it into a Private schools vs the world argument

[HomeBarkingDog]

Bodyshots, I've spent a considerable number of years in and around Hill-Murray. If your stereotype of kids being forced to go to Hill-Murray by their parents makes you feel better then keep believing it. But I know the opposite is true. Most of the kids there know the expense and sacrifices that their parents have made to send their kids to HM and are thankful.

And to HomeBarkingDog - I was in the HM gym when the 2008 state champs came back to school on Saturday night. The place was packed and the joy and emotion were overwhelming. I was also at Aldrich earlier that year when the 1983 champs were honored. The place was packed with a standing room crowd. Even the WBL fans on the other side applauded. 25 years later and still proud of their accomplishments. It all means a little more than "nothing".

Thats great StPaul..I never said it meant nothing to the people invloved...Im sure it was a thril of lifetime....My point is that you are comparing and bragging about accomplishments of your school to those of WBL, Stillwater etc...when the playing field isnt even close to level

Ive tried to point this out in previous posts

[ubugme]

so ironic that you are calling someone else trailer trash when you cant differentiate between "bored" and "board"

now back to 2nd grade grammar and reading comprehension for you right?

It kinda bugs me.... aw never mind. Why bother?

[youngblood08]

It kinda bugs me there is so much bigoted trailer trash on this bored.

If you want to hate Hill because their good, fine. If you want to hate them because their green, even better. But to hate them because kids choose Hill over your school is pathetic.

But I suppose its easier to sit back in your double wide and blame something other than your own misgivings....

So only rich kids go to Hill? You don't know the area very well do you?

[HomeBarkingDog]

so ironic that you are calling someone else trailer trash when you cant differentiate between "bored" and "board"

now back to 2nd grade grammar and reading comprehension for you right?

It kinda bugs me.... aw never mind. Why bother?

Thank you for not even trying...now back to the topic at hand...would be great to see a team like Stillwater at state...get a new face from that section

[cyclones02]

I will admit it i do HATE hill murray. I know first hand that those people act like they are better than everyone else. I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

[ubugme]

It's been 35 years since private schools joined the MSHSL. That issue was settled long ago. It's time to get over it.

Might as well save it stpaul. I think its a silk purse thingy...

[stpaul]

You're right HBD, the playing field isn't even. Taxpayers fund the WBL and Stillwater schools and hockey programs. At Hill-Murray, the parents and families have to fund it.

[HomeBarkingDog]

I will admit it i do HATE hill murray. I know first hand that those people act like they are better than everyone else. I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

hate is a harsh word..and I definetly do not hate the private schools...but I would like to see an all Public school tourney...and a new face from that section like Stillwater or MV, or even WBL again..its been a while

[Just_Another_Fan]

I hate hill murray as much as the next guy. Mostly cause of the attitude i have seen from individual kids who go there. But i love having a team to hate at state. With out Hill there can't be any public school, daddy's money, whose your dealer etc etc chants that make the state high school hockey tournament the best time of the year.

[cyclones02]

I will admit it i do HATE hill murray. I know first hand that those people act like they are better than everyone else. I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

hate is a harsh word..and I definetly do not hate the private schools...but I would like to see an all Public school tourney...and a new face from that section like Stillwater or MV, or even WBL again..its been a while

It is harsh but thats what i think

[ubugme]

I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

Well cyclones, about those youth hockey associations...

They are private entities aren't they?

[HomeBarkingDog]

You're right HBD, the playing field isn't even. Taxpayers fund the WBL and Stillwater schools and hockey programs. At Hill-Murray, the parents and families have to fund it.

wow, the points im making clearly are whizzing past your ears..let me break it down for you...Im not talking about funding...Im talking about the talent pool that you are drawing from

A team like White Bear Lake...99% of their kids come from the WBL youth hockey program

Private schools on the other hand? their drawing pool is basically the entire metro areas hockey programs...not just limited to one.


thats where the playing field is unlevel...NO ONE said anything about financial reasons

[youngblood08]

I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

Well cyclones, about those youth hockey associations...

They are private entities aren't they?

Now your stretching it.

[cyclones02]

I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

Well cyclones, about those youth hockey associations...

They are private entities aren't they?

with the boundaries around school districts

[Just_Another_Fan]

I hate when guys who run the youth associations end up sending their kids to hill

Well cyclones, about those youth hockey associations...

They are private entities aren't they?

with the boundaries around school districts

Not necessarily. In Woodbury the way the boundaries are drawn you occasionally have kids from stillwater and tartan playing for woodbury until high school.

[Northsider]

You missed the point again stpaul. What he meant was that the Roseau kids were rooting for the Roseau High School team when they were kids. The HM kids were rooting for Stillwater, WBL, Woodbury, Roseville, Moundsview, etc., ect. When the HM kids were about to enter the 9th grade, their parents told them they were going to HM. And their response.....I'm going where? Why? I hate you mom and dad!!!!

Huh? That's news my to me. I've been rooting for HM as long as I've followed hockey. I "should" be going to Tartan, but never once have I went to a hockey game to show some "Titan Pride". The number of Tartan hockey games I've been to that don't involve Hill-Murray is zero. I've been rooting for Hill at HM-White Bear games my entire life as have all the other kids I went to Catholic grade school with, and I am now going through HS with. I go to Hill, my brothers do, my cousins do or did, my dad did, my uncles did...

HM has just as much a community as the public schools do - it's just more spread out.

[stpaul]

Don't mess with cyclone's mind like that. It's much easier to think of youth hockey associations and public high schools as free and connected. Any player or coach that enrolls his kid in a private school is a traitor. I, too, miss the Soviet Union where the government determines where we all must go to school.

[Pioneerprideguy]

I have always said, there are two types of people: Those that went to Hill-Murray & those that wish they did.

As my "name" indicates, I'm a Proud Pioneer. I appreciated the education I received from the school & I cherish the friendships & memories I made there as a student & athlete. But most of all, I appreciated the sacrifices my parents made to allow me the opportunity to be a member of the Pioneer family.

I have always enjoyed being the team most people disliked and wanted to beat. It adds character...and a whole lot of pride. Apples/oranges analogy, but I hear the same type of talk regarding the Yankees. Many people dislike/hate the Yankees because of their unfair advantage & success. But the Yankee players talk about the pride they have wearing the "pinstripes" and representing the tradition. They also welcome the disdain that comes with playing on said team. Hill-Murray players share similiar feelings.

Like them or not, HM does evoke feelings from a lot of people. I've actually smiled when we've lost watching people enjoy the experience of beating the Pioneers. Thankfully, I've had the opportunity to smile more often when the school celebrates after a big win (the smiles last longer when we win).

As we enter the best two weeks of high school hockey, I hope the people involved enjoy the experiences. Good luck to the Pioneers on Weds.

[Just_Another_Fan]

Did PPG get all serious on us?!

[stilly5hm3]

even the yankees admit they buy their team...not quite the comparison i think you want...why not lakers...or RED WINGS...eh?

[BodyShots]

You missed the point again stpaul. What he meant was that the Roseau kids were rooting for the Roseau High School team when they were kids. The HM kids were rooting for Stillwater, WBL, Woodbury, Roseville, Moundsview, etc., ect. When the HM kids were about to enter the 9th grade, their parents told them they were going to HM. And their response.....I'm going where? Why? I hate you mom and dad!!!!

Huh? That's news my to me. I've been rooting for HM as long as I've followed hockey. I "should" be going to Tartan, but never once have I went to a hockey game to show some "Titan Pride". The number of Tartan hockey games I've been to that don't involve Hill-Murray is zero. I've been rooting for Hill at HM-White Bear games my entire life as have all the other kids I went to Catholic grade school with, and I am now going through HS with. I go to Hill, my brothers do, my cousins do or did, my dad did, my uncles did...

HM has just as much a community as the public schools do - it's just more spread out.

OK, I should just probably stay away from this topic, but since you replied directly to me, I will return with my comments.

I too went to a Catholic grade school and had lots of friends that went to a private high school. I coach youth athletics and many of the kids I coach go to a private school. I have nothing against private schools.

When I was little, and playing hockey, I had no clue who or what Hill Murray was. Most (not all) kids who played hockey (mite, pony, squirt) dreamed of playing for their local high school. Those that played for WBL youth hockey dreamed of playing for WBL high school. Those that played youth hockey in Roseville, dreamed of playing for Ramsey or Kellogg (Hint as to my age). The same for Roseau, Stillwater, etc. Most kids do not dream of playing for HM, because they have no clue who/what HM is. Now I said most, because there are a select few who have parents, cousins, etc that went to HM and have raised their children with the intention of following in their footsteps and going to HM. Neither approach is wrong, just one is more common than the other.

I never said I hated HM. I'm sure HM is a great school, where one can get a great education, and play for some great sports teams.

Now to my last comment: "I'm going where? Why? I hate you mom and dad!!!" It's called levity. But, I am sure it happens at all schools, including HM. Especially when kids get "sent" to schools for other reasons beyond sports.

I'm with HBG, I am pulling for a team other than HM to go to state this year. Hill is the odds on favorite, but it's time to see someone else represent 4AA at the state tournament. Plus, we all could use a year off from the smug responses from PPG, stpaul, and sachishi.

[Goldfishdude]

Bodyshots, I've spent a considerable number of years in and around Hill-Murray. If your stereotype of kids being forced to go to Hill-Murray by their parents makes you feel better then keep believing it. But I know the opposite is true. Most of the kids there know the expense and sacrifices that their parents have made to send their kids to HM and are thankful.

And to HomeBarkingDog - I was in the HM gym when the 2008 state champs came back to school on Saturday night. The place was packed and the joy and emotion were overwhelming. I was also at Aldrich earlier that year when the 1983 champs were honored. The place was packed with a standing room crowd. Even the WBL fans on the other side applauded. 25 years later and still proud of their accomplishments. It all means a little more than "nothing".

It's been 35 years since private schools joined the MSHSL. That issue was settled long ago. It's time to get over it.

St. Paulie??? Body Shots did what he always likes to do........ he likes to be the "porcupine" when it comes to H-M, and he once again pushed a few buttons..... Good job, Body.

As a fellow WBLer with Body Shots, we have taken our share of being the hated team in District 2 hockey. I heard it a half dozen times on Saturday at Tartan arena how people were "just glad WBL lost".... Even after the B1 WBL bantam goalie had a 51-save shutout going deep into 2 OT, and gave up a breakway goal on the 52nd shot to lose 1-0, I heard... "I am glad WBL lost".

We don't get to hate too many teams..... H-M gets the WBL hatred. No coincidence that the 25th anniversary of the 1983 team was celebrated vs WBL..... to keep rubbing it in...

I, for one, am the porcupine of WBL hockey.

In order for any team to beat H-M to get to state means all that needs to be done is be better than them for one game. If it happens, it happens.

If not, I will pattin' PPG and the rest of the H-M faithful on the backs and wish them success.