Section Seedings

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:51 am

Please post section seedings as they come out. I will cut and paste and have the opening post contain all 16 sections.

1A
1 Faribault
2 Lourdes
3 New Prague
4 Albert Lea
5 Red Wing
6 Mkto West
7 Northfield
8 Mkto East
9 Austin
10 Waseca
11 St Peter etc
12 LaCrescent

2A
1. Breck
2. Delano
3. Blake
4. Orono
5. Mound-Westonka
6. Providence Academy
7. Holy Family Catholic
8. St. Louis Park
9. Richfield
10. Waconia

3A
1. Hutch
2. Redwood Valley
3. New Ulm
4. Litchfield/DC
5. Marshall
6. Windom
7. Luverne
8. Fairmont
9. Sleepy Eye
10. Worthington

4A
1. Saint Thomas Academy
2. Mahtomedi
3. Totino-Grace
4. Spring Lake Park
5. South St. Paul
6. St. Paul Johnson
7. Chisago Lakes
8. Minnehaha Academy
9. East Ridge
10. St. Paul Academy
11. Simley

5A
1. Hermantown
2. Duluth Denfeld
3. Cathedral
4. Rogers
5. Sauk Rapids
6. Proctor
7. STMA
8. NorthBranch
9. Moose Lake
10. Mora
11. Pine City
12. Meadow Creek

6A
1. Alexandria
2. Sartell
3. Fergus Falls
4. Detroit Lakes
5. Wilmar
6. Little Falls
7. Northern Lakes
8. St. Cloud Apollo
9. Morris/Benson
10. Prairie Center
11. Wadena

7A
1. Virginia
2. International Falls
3. Hibbing
4. The Marshall School
5. Duluth Central
6. Eveleth-Gilbert
7. Greenway
8. Silver Bay
9. Ely
10. Two Harbors

8A
1. Warroad
2. Thief River Falls
3. East Grand Forks
4. Kittson Central
5. Lake of the Woods
6. Park Rapids
7. Crookston
8. Red Lake Falls
9. Bagley
10. Walker

1AA
1 Lakeville South
2 Century
3 Lakeville North
4 Winona
5 Owatonna
6 Farmington
7 John Marshall
8 Mayo
9 Dodge County

2AA
1. Edina
2. Burnsville
3. Jefferson
4. Holy Angels
5. Chaska
6. Prior Lake
7. Shakopee
8. Kennedy

3AA
1. Eagan
2. Cretin-Derham Hall
3. Woodbury
4. Apple Valley
5. Hastings
6. Park
7. Eastview
8. Henry Sibley
9. Rosemount

4AA
1. Hill-Murray
2. White Bear Lake
3. Stillwater
4. Tartan
5. Mounds View
6. North St. Paul
7. Roseville
8. SP Como Park
9. SP Saints

5AA
1. Blaine
2. Centennial
3. Maple Grove
4. Osseo
5. Champlin Park
6. Anoka
7. North Metro
8. Irondale
9. Coon Rapids

6AA
1. Minnetonka
2. Wayzata
3. Eden Prairie
4. Benilde St. Margarets
5. Hopkins
6. Armstrong
7. Mpls East
8. Cooper
9. Mpls West

7AA
1. Elk River
2. Duluth East
3. Andover
4. Forest Lake
5. Grand Rapids
6. St Francis
7. Cambridge
8. Cloquet
9. Princeton

8AA
1. Moorhead
2. Roseau
3. Brainerd
4. Bemidji
5. St Cloud Tech
6. Buffalo
7. Monticello
8. River Lakes
9. Becker

warroad44 · Post by **warroad44** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:28 pm

What day do the coaches from the sections teams get together and meet???

Post by **karl(east)** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:42 pm

warroad44 wrote:What day do the coaches from the sections teams get together and meet???

It's different for each section, though most will be this Sunday, I believe. Obviously the sections that have playoff games on Saturday will meet sometime this week.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:20 am

8AA is today (Wednesday)
I believe 8A is today also.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:24 am

6a is also today (Wednesday)

quickgym guy · Post by **quickgym guy** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:03 am

I know 7AA meets tonight in Hinckley...

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:21 am

What are these meetings like? What do the coaches do? Do they discuss their seasons and games and come to a mutual decision or is it a blind voting, or what is the process?

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:54 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:What are these meetings like? What do the coaches do? Do they discuss their seasons and games and come to a mutual decision or is it a blind voting, or what is the process?

I think most of the outstate sections vote for seeding by email. It cuts down on the mileage costs schools have to pay.

mnhockeynemn · Post by **mnhockeynemn** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:00 pm

Section 7A results will be held today also.

spectator · Post by **spectator** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:28 pm

1 Warroad
2 TRF
3 EGF
4.KCC
5 LOW
6 PARK RAPIDS
7CROOKSTON
8 RED LAKE FALLS
9 BAGLEY
10 WALKER

THAT IS THE SEEDING FOR SECTION 8

greatone · Post by **greatone** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:32 pm

Typically; the coaches all get together and chat like they actually like each other. Then they give their season summary and try to tell everyone what seed they should be and why. After that they all vote for every team (except their own) Someone then takes all the tallies and it is released to the coaches what seed they are, and who voted which way. They then get a chance to appeal if they don't like their seed. Everyone votes on the appeal and they move on. There are always the coaches that try to low ball a particular team because of personal reasons. (This usually leads to some "heated" conversations) It usually ends in at least two coaches feeling like they got the shaft, and two coaches happy that they are seeded higher then they should have been.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:53 pm

8AA

1. Moorhead
2. Roseau
3. Brainerd
4. Bemidji
5. St. Cloud Tech
6. Buffalo
7. Monticello
8. River Lakes
9. Becker/Big Lake

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:56 pm

elliott70 wrote:8AA

1. Moorhead
2. Roseau
3. Brainerd
4. Bemidji
5. St. Cloud Tech
6. Buffalo
7. Monticello
8. River Lakes
9. Becker/Big Lake

I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.

Don't need another post; how are ties handled?

bardown27 · Post by **bardown27** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:01 pm

3A

1. Hutch
2. Redwood Valley
3. New Ulm
4. Litchfield/DC
5. Marshall
6. Windom
7. Luverne
8. Fairmont
9. Sleepy Eye
10. Worthington

spectator · Post by **spectator** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:03 pm

[quote="HShockeywatcher"][quote="elliott70"]8AA

1. Moorhead
2. Roseau
3. Brainerd
4. Bemidji
5. St. Cloud Tech
6. Buffalo
7. Monticello
8. River Lakes
9. Becker/Big Lake[/quote]

I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.[/quote]

I guess it hardly matters because if your second or third you still play each other in the semi's. it just matters if you would rather play buffalo or monticello

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:06 pm

spectator wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote:8AA

I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.
I guess it hardly matters because if your second or third you still play each other in the semi's. it just matters if you would rather play buffalo or monticello
In a section where the game is on neutral ice, which is what I thought too, you would be right. But this game will be played in Roseau, which is what disappoints me. Outside of beating Moorhead, there isn't much more Brainerd could've done here either.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:15 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote:8AA

1. Moorhead
2. Roseau
3. Brainerd
4. Bemidji
5. St. Cloud Tech
6. Buffalo
7. Monticello
8. River Lakes
9. Becker/Big Lake
I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.

Don't need another post; how are ties handled?

In talking with most of the coaches I am not surprised at all.
The top 4 teams' coaches all think anyone of the top 4 could win this.

Indian Head · Post by **Indian Head** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:30 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
spectator wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: I guess it hardly matters because if your second or third you still play each other in the semi's. it just matters if you would rather play buffalo or monticello
In a section where the game is on neutral ice, which is what I thought too, you would be right. But this game will be played in Roseau, which is what disappoints me. Outside of beating Moorhead, there isn't much more Brainerd could've done here either.
WHAT THE ...

citiots · Post by **citiots** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:52 pm

6A
1. Alexandria
2. Sartell
3. Fergus Falls
4. Detroit Lakes
5. Wilmar
6. Little Falls
7. Northern Lakes
8. St. Cloud Apollo
9. Morris/Benson
10. Prairie Center
11. Wadena

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:21 pm

elliott70 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote:8AA

1. Moorhead
2. Roseau
3. Brainerd
4. Bemidji
5. St. Cloud Tech
6. Buffalo
7. Monticello
8. River Lakes
9. Becker/Big Lake
I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.

Don't need another post; how are ties handled?
In talking with most of the coaches I am not surprised at all.
The top 4 teams' coaches all think anyone of the top 4 could win this.

elliot, what are your thoughts?

I agree, any one of the top 4 could win this, although, I would say the top 3 have a much better shot. All three are pretty equal with a slight edge going to Moorhead. So getting #2 over #3 is huge here.

sn1per · Post by **sn1per** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:50 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.

Don't need another post; how are ties handled?
In talking with most of the coaches I am not surprised at all.
The top 4 teams' coaches all think anyone of the top 4 could win this.
elliot, what are your thoughts?

I agree, any one of the top 4 could win this, although, I would say the top 3 have a much better shot. All three are pretty equal with a slight edge going to Moorhead. So getting #2 over #3 is huge here.

Brainerd got screwed, plain and simple. Brainerd beat Roseau head to head and only lost 2 section games, both to the clear cut #1 seed. Roseau lost 3 section games, but beat Moorhead once. I am shocked that Roseau got the 2, the RECENT loss to to Tech should've taken them out of the running.

bauerhky22 · Post by **bauerhky22** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:22 pm

Just curious if the guy who usually makes "the board" with all the sections all the way up to the state tournament is doing it again this year? I am sure they are. Can't wait to defend my title with my buddies as we usually fill the whole thing out while placing bets!

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:24 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: I just saw this. Anyone else as surprised as me that Roseau is ahead of Brainerd, despite Brainerd beating the Rams the one time they played this year. Roseau also lost to Tech recently. I think this is very unfortunate personally.

Don't need another post; how are ties handled?
In talking with most of the coaches I am not surprised at all.
The top 4 teams' coaches all think anyone of the top 4 could win this.
elliot, what are your thoughts?

I agree, any one of the top 4 could win this, although, I would say the top 3 have a much better shot. All three are pretty equal with a slight edge going to Moorhead. So getting #2 over #3 is huge here.

I thought Roso was the better team, but based on the season I would have put Brainerd at 2nd.
One coach told me that if Bemidji is healthy they have the best shot.
I am not sure if they are entirely healthy but everyone is playing right now.

My money is on Moorhead.
If Bemidji beats Moorhead in the semis (assuming they both make it), then I am with Bemidji.

Brainerd traveling to Roso will be difficult (assuming they both make it).

bloody bar down · Post by **bloody bar down** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:45 pm

elliott70 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote: In talking with most of the coaches I am not surprised at all.
The top 4 teams' coaches all think anyone of the top 4 could win this.
elliot, what are your thoughts?

I agree, any one of the top 4 could win this, although, I would say the top 3 have a much better shot. All three are pretty equal with a slight edge going to Moorhead. So getting #2 over #3 is huge here.
I thought Roso was the better team, but based on the season I would have put Brainerd at 2nd.
One coach told me that if Bemidji is healthy they have the best shot.
I am not sure if they are entirely healthy but everyone is playing right now.

My money is on Moorhead.
If Bemidji beats Moorhead in the semis (assuming they both make it), then I am with Bemidji.

Brainerd traveling to Roso will be difficult (assuming they both make it).

One coach told me that Bemidji should be a 5 seed. I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder. Bemidji colored glasses there ...Elliott

blueline1 · Post by **blueline1** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:06 pm

sn1per wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
elliott70 wrote: In talking with most of the coaches I am not surprised at all.
The top 4 teams' coaches all think anyone of the top 4 could win this.
elliot, what are your thoughts?

I agree, any one of the top 4 could win this, although, I would say the top 3 have a much better shot. All three are pretty equal with a slight edge going to Moorhead. So getting #2 over #3 is huge here.
Brainerd got screwed, plain and simple. Brainerd beat Roseau head to head and only lost 2 section games, both to the clear cut #1 seed. Roseau lost 3 section games, but beat Moorhead once. I am shocked that Roseau got the 2, the RECENT loss to to Tech should've taken them out of the running.

You are damn right Brainerd got screwed! There is no justification for this based on the season results. The teams that voted Brainerd the #3 seed have not played them this season, with the exception of Bemidji. Moorhead played both Roseau and Brainerd and their coach ranked Brainerd ahead of Roseau. I guess it doesn't matter what a team accomplishes during the season, a no-name team can't compete with the history of a Roseau, even if they beat them. It's too bad for the kids who earned and deserved to have the opportunity to play the semi's at home.