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dogeatdog1
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FARGO BRACKETS

Post by dogeatdog1 »

The Brackets are out.. send me a dollar and your picks and we will have a Feb Madness bracket contest...I will payout $10 for the winner and keep the rest as an administration fee :D

http://www.fargoflyershockey.com/pg0703apairings.html
wayupnorth
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Post by wayupnorth »

How does the seeding look, does anyone see a tough bracket for Friday?

Who will have the toughest second game?
keep skating
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Post by keep skating »

Two very big surprises to me are why the host Flyers want to play Wayzata in the first round and Osseo/Maple Grove and Jefferson maybe in the second round. I thought that there are alot of non Minnesota teams in the A bracket this year. Are any going to challenge the MN teams?
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Post by buzzsaw »

The Flyers didnt do themselves any favors. Several brackers of 4 have 2 good teams in it. A Minnesota team will win it. I always like STMA but Lakeville South has to be the favorite. With that said, I think there are 10-12 teams that could win. I don't think Edina has the horses to win 3 in a row but you never know.
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Post by dogeatdog1 »

I thought that this was going to be easy money.. so far I have $1 in my mail box and it is mine.. :P here are my picks to get out of the first two games..from the top bracket down.

STMA over PHOENix
EGF over carolina
Jefferson over OMG
Burnsville over Omaha
Waconia over Woodbury (Tough Game early on in the tourney)
Edina over Chaska (easiest draw in the tourney)
Prior Lake over Northern Colorado
Wayzata over Thunder bay
Rosemount over Bemedji
Regina over Tonka...( I assume regina is from Canada?) this is a shot in the dark
Lakeville south over Fargo Raiders
Eastview over Afton Mo.
Highland Central over Ventura CA (they do something other than surf in CA)
EP over Arvada Tough Draw for a good team
Lkville North over Roseau
SWEET 16.....

This is dissapointing there are no nutbag parents thinking that their team is unstoppable and talking smack on the tourney.. I might have to resurect last years forum on the tourney just to give someone an idea of what Fargo is all about. CMON people Start the smack talk :twisted:
wayupnorth
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Post by wayupnorth »

I see that you have only one team outside of Minnesota advancing and that looks like a reach.

Minnesota has two big advantages, they play with half of 98 birth years and they have more depth than the teams outside Minnesota.

Will there be any other possible upsets to get the the sweet 16.

Does anyone know anything about teams outside the state? I am sure someone does because they seed these teams. I would assume someone has some knowledge.

How good are all the Fargo teams? Can anyone rank them.
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Post by ThePuckStopsHere »

dogeatdog1 wrote:I thought that this was going to be easy money.. so far I have $1 in my mail box and it is mine.. :P here are my picks to get out of the first two games..from the top bracket down.

STMA over PHOENix
EGF over carolina
Jefferson over OMG
Burnsville over Omaha
Waconia over Woodbury (Tough Game early on in the tourney)
Edina over Chaska (easiest draw in the tourney)
Prior Lake over Northern Colorado
Wayzata over Thunder bay
Rosemount over Bemedji
Regina over Tonka...( I assume regina is from Canada?) this is a shot in the dark
Lakeville south over Fargo Raiders
Eastview over Afton Mo.
Highland Central over Ventura CA (they do something other than surf in CA)
EP over Arvada Tough Draw for a good team
Lkville North over Roseau
SWEET 16.....

This is dissapointing there are no nutbag parents thinking that their team is unstoppable and talking smack on the tourney.. I might have to resurect last years forum on the tourney just to give someone an idea of what Fargo is all about. CMON people Start the smack talk :twisted:
My money would be on Wayzata to take it all, they are the deepest team out of all the Minnesota teams in this tournament.
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Post by InigoMontoya »

Minnesota has two big advantages, they play with half of 98 birth years and they have more depth than the teams outside Minnesota.
I wanted to add some intelligent insight to the thread bare topic of last half 98s (or last half 96s on peewee teams), but all I can think of is "blah, blah, blah". That very poetic response also runs into the depth comment, where I feel compelled to add, "are you frigin' kidding me?!?" Waconia has a population of about 10,000; I don't know what the population of Arvada is, but having lived there for four years, I can tell you that it's bigger than Waconia - I've never lived in Arizona (what does it matter?), but I have a mother-in-law that winters outside Phoenix, and again, though I'm just spit ballin' here - bigger than Waconia. Not only that, but if the coach in California thinks his team could be a little better, he picks up a goalie who lives in Texas; once again 300million population of the entire US to draw from is bigger than 10,000 in Waconia. I'm not sure how a couple 5th graders with Oct or Nov birthdays make up for that advantage and the depth comment is ridiculous. A comment including the tradition of hockey in MN or the quality of coaching in MN would be a nice argument as to why the MN teams will kick butt up there, but not the boys that are 4 or 5 months older than the boys they are playing against.

dog, it is a crying shame that Farmington didn't go this year. I think we've all healed enough to re-read some of those if you dig them up.
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Post by OGEE OGELTHORPE »

wayupnorth wrote:
How good are all the Fargo teams? Can anyone rank them.
No need to rank them, Fargo is down considerably this year.....in fact Warroad even beat them.

:wink:
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Post by Spinerama »

IM - If your so desperate to defend the assinine age classification in Minnesota by referencing population sizes, perhaps you should make it real by considering the number of registered hockey players within the referenced geographic location. Otherwise you simply are not making a fair comparison. The bottom line is that out of state teams are having to compete against teams that extend the spectrum of age available players.
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Post by dogeatdog1 »

wayupnorth wrote:I see that you have only one team outside of Minnesota advancing and that looks like a reach.

Minnesota has two big advantages, they play with half of 98 birth years and they have more depth than the teams outside Minnesota.

Will there be any other possible upsets to get the the sweet 16.

Does anyone know anything about teams outside the state? I am sure someone does because they seed these teams. I would assume someone has some knowledge.

How good are all the Fargo teams? Can anyone rank them.
Mine was a shot in the dark for outside MN teams.. I have been to The fargo for 4 years now (My kid is a 4th year squirt :) )and from history I note that Omaha Arvada and Carolina have in the past beat some teams. Thunderbay also brings some kids without birth certificates accross the line and beats up on a couple of teams. I hope that Andre the Giant dad from Thunderbay doesn't show up and make me have to kick him in the knee....Ahhhh the farmington nutbags thems were the times.......Indy thems were the times...
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Post by gorilla1 »

dog

good picks on most. waconia will have a tough time with woodbury as you state. as for the colorado teams, the Front Range and boulder have the best teams. Boulder is 11-1-3 and FR is 10-1-5. Arvada, which you state is a good team, is 3-9-5. They all play in the same division in colorado. I dont think edina gets by Front Range. if they do, chaska/chan will beat them. edina even got beat by shakopee and are nowhere near the team they were last year. The easiest draw in the tourney goes to Lakeville North who gets the simple task of beating Roseau (this is assuming Roseau beats Tartan), who isn't much better than Warroad. tonka will come out of their bracket as well. i have seen all the fargo teams play, and I don't think any of them will win their first game. No disrespect to the fargo fans. OMG beats jefferson as well. The rest of your picks look solid. nice job.
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Post by wayupnorth »

All I am saying is taking a 98 born in August means that you did not have to take that 00 born in August that teams outside MN have to take. My math is not that good but that is a two year swing.

I am sorry, just my opinion,2 years of development is a ton.
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Post by dogeatdog1 »

InigoMontoya wrote:
Minnesota has two big advantages, they play with half of 98 birth years and they have more depth than the teams outside Minnesota.
I wanted to add some intelligent insight to the thread bare topic of last half 98s (or last half 96s on peewee teams), but all I can think of is "blah, blah, blah". That very poetic response also runs into the depth comment, where I feel compelled to add, "are you frigin' kidding me?!?" Waconia has a population of about 10,000; I don't know what the population of Arvada is, but having lived there for four years, I can tell you that it's bigger than Waconia - I've never lived in Arizona (what does it matter?), but I have a mother-in-law that winters outside Phoenix, and again, though I'm just spit ballin' here - bigger than Waconia. Not only that, but if the coach in California thinks his team could be a little better, he picks up a goalie who lives in Texas; once again 300million population of the entire US to draw from is bigger than 10,000 in Waconia. I'm not sure how a couple 5th graders with Oct or Nov birthdays make up for that advantage and the depth comment is ridiculous. A comment including the tradition of hockey in MN or the quality of coaching in MN would be a nice argument as to why the MN teams will kick butt up there, but not the boys that are 4 or 5 months older than the boys they are playing against.

dog, it is a crying shame that Farmington didn't go this year. I think we've all healed enough to re-read some of those if you dig them up.
I Bumped last years smack talk to the top of the pile so we can all learn from "little stick" from Farmington... If I remember correctly he was shamed from this forum :lol:
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Post by InigoMontoya »

IM - If your so desperate to defend the assinine age classification in Minnesota by referencing population sizes, perhaps you should make it real by considering the number of registered hockey players within the referenced geographic location. Otherwise you simply are not making a fair comparison. The bottom line is that out of state teams are having to compete against teams that extend the spectrum of age available players.
Fair enough:
Southern California, the northern suburbs of Denver, and the greater Valley of the Sun all have more registered hockey players than Waconia. I'm not going to look it up, I am simply going to assume they have more than 40 or 50 kids to pick from. So quit pissin' and moanin' about it; if you don't like it, then go play somebody else. The reason those teams come to ND and MN is because once they've cherry picked the very best players at every position, they have to travel across three states to find a team to play.
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Post by wayupnorth »

http://myhockeyrankings.com/view_2009_r ... ?a=s&v=122

I would think after looking at this Afton will have a pretty good squad.
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Post by dogeatdog1 »

wayupnorth wrote:http://myhockeyrankings.com/view_2009_r ... ?a=s&v=122

I would think after looking at this Afton will have a pretty good squad.
Is AA hockey akin to B hockey in MN? I thought that it would be like a 99 squirt minor team but I don't know about the winter leagues.. if nothing else they have a good record.


I know that it is akin to most AAA summer teams in MN :lol:
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Post by wayupnorth »

A four year squirt? I would assume that he is a 98 now. He must be the odds on favorite to win the squirt Olympics.
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Post by ACTUALFORMERPLAYER »

keep skating wrote:Two very big surprises to me are why the host Flyers want to play Wayzata in the first round and Osseo/Maple Grove and Jefferson maybe in the second round. I thought that there are alot of non Minnesota teams in the A bracket this year. Are any going to challenge the MN teams?
The theory is since Fargo is down this year they are sacrificing this team and throwing them to the wolves (Wayzata). It won't look as bad next time they have a good team playing all the chumps. "We played the best team back in 2010." :roll:
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Post by tonyleepers »

Farmington is going this year. They play Eden Prairie in the first round. I think a little upset may be in order!!
Fair is not always equal, equal is not always fair!!
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Post by tonyleepers »

wayupnorth...
Youre still stuck on this 98 garbage. You keep on posting it on all the threads. Go back and reread and stop with the ignorant comments. I heard all of Arvada's kids are January 99's. HAHAHA J/K by the way, but sounds as good as your beating a dead horse.
Fair is not always equal, equal is not always fair!!
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Post by trippedovertheblueline »

tonyleepers wrote:Farmington is going this year. They play Eden Prairie in the first round. I think a little upset may be in order!!

Nope, no upset. Next round please EP 1-0
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Post by thunderwolf »

dogeatdog1 wrote:
Mine was a shot in the dark for outside MN teams.. I have been to The fargo for 4 years now (My kid is a 4th year squirt :) )and from history I note that Omaha Arvada and Carolina have in the past beat some teams. Thunderbay also brings some kids without birth certificates accross the line and beats up on a couple of teams. I hope that Andre the Giant dad from Thunderbay doesn't show up and make me have to kick him in the knee....Ahhhh the farmington nutbags thems were the times.......Indy thems were the times...
Thunder Bay kids have to travel with their association registered teams. I can guarantee none of them travel without copies of their birth certificates. Actually, they need passports to cross the border now anyway.

Having said that, they are nowhere near the top teams in this tourney in the squirt A. Not sure why they put two TB teams in the A and two in the B. All four teams play against each other all year, very competitively. The two that got placed in B(Elks 82sand Neebing Hawks) probably have a good chance to do well in that bracket.
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Post by wayupnorth »

Sorry to stir the pot with the 98 thing. Good luck to all.

My upset team to advance to the sweet 16 is Afton. STL has some very good hockey and they may have expanded their boundries to get into this tourney.

Looking at coaches in this tourney, have any played college or pro.

This form states Fargo teams are down, but how do they separate their teams. Who beat who? Are they Flyers the best Fargo team?

Thanks
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Post by northwoods oldtimer »

Rankings for 99 kids now that is by far the funniest damn thing I have ever seen in my life. :lol: :lol: :lol: No wonder the game has gone completely south, that is amazing.
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