youngblood08 wrote:On-Ice Officials Code of Conduct
Act in a professional and businesslike manner at all times and take your role seriously.
Strive to provide a safe and sportsmanlike environment in which players can properly display their hockey skills.
Know all playing rules, their interpretations and their proper application.
Remember that officials are teachers. Set a good example.
Make your calls with quiet confidence, never with arrogance.
Control games only to the extent that is necessary to provide a positive and safe experience for all participants.
Violence should never be tolerated.
Be fair and impartial at all times.
Answer all reasonable questions and requests.
Adopt a “zero tolerance” attitude toward verbal or physical abuse.
Never use foul or vulgar language when speaking with a player, coach or parent.
Use honesty and integrity when answering questions.
Admit your mistakes when you make them.
Never openly criticize a coach, player or other official.
Keep your emotions under control.
Use only USA Hockey–approved officiating techniques and policies.
Maintain your health through a physical conditioning program.
Dedicate yourself to personal improvement and maintenance of your officiating skills.
Respect your supervisor and his/her critique of your performance.
Grant it this is for youth hockey but most rulles are the same at all levels. Funny I remember the Woodtick crowd telling the Stillwater parents how to act after the first gam between the two teams. Coinsidence that both occasions involves the Woodbury team?
Youngblood, please reread your post from the first Woodbury/Stillwater game and put it in context with your last reply.
If you read all the posts and put them together you may get a sense of what occurred in the game. There were a couple of instances in the game which got the crowd very emotional. In the second period, there was a penalty on Woodbury for tripping on one player which lead to the 10 minute misconduct on another player for 3rd man in. There was mention in earlier posts about mouth guards and talking back to the official but the call was 3rd man in. A couple of minutes later, there was a delayed penalty on Forest Lake. When the play stopped, Forest Lake had two penalities for slashing and interference. Woodbury ended up with one for diving. Anytime you have slashing and diving together, it will get the crowd emotional especially after the 3rd man in call was made just a few minutes earlier. This was the call that brought the pop on the ice.
Another instance where a shot was made on Gaffy which he gloved and he was sliding to the side of the goal. Just as the Woodbury player was about to pass him, the Woodbury player got a slight nudge from behind. At the same time, Gaffy stood up and moved in front of the Woodbury player who ran into him. Gaffy fell backward and his helmet flew off. A Forest Lake player then slashed the Woodbury player. Then it became who pushed who into the goalie, could the Woodbury player stop, etc. A penalty was assessed to the Woodbury player and one to Forest Lake.
There was one 12 minute stretch in the 3rd period where there were not penalties called and there was some very good hockey played by both teams.
Been to many emotional games in my day, have yet to see a POP thrown on the ice.
Why does a Jr. Gold team include kids from Woodbury, Apple Valley, Farmington, Cottage Grove, Hudson, Eastridge, Hill Murray, and Cretin?
I mean I know why, not enough kids. But, are there kids from any of those 8 schools playing on different Jr. Gold teams? If so, why? How did they get split up? Is it that after formation of a Jr. Gold A team by each of these youth associations there are only 3-4 players left so it requires 5 youth associations and 3 schools to form single team?
Sounds like you answered your own question. You see over in the East Metro some of the smaller associations only have enough to fill the High School rosters. And with the opening of East Ridge their is even a bigger shortage of players.
youngblood08 wrote:On-Ice Officials Code of Conduct
Act in a professional and businesslike manner at all times and take your role seriously.
Strive to provide a safe and sportsmanlike environment in which players can properly display their hockey skills.
Know all playing rules, their interpretations and their proper application.
Remember that officials are teachers. Set a good example.
Make your calls with quiet confidence, never with arrogance.
Control games only to the extent that is necessary to provide a positive and safe experience for all participants.
Violence should never be tolerated.
Be fair and impartial at all times.
Answer all reasonable questions and requests.
Adopt a “zero tolerance” attitude toward verbal or physical abuse.
Never use foul or vulgar language when speaking with a player, coach or parent.
Use honesty and integrity when answering questions.
Admit your mistakes when you make them.
Never openly criticize a coach, player or other official.
Keep your emotions under control.
Use only USA Hockey–approved officiating techniques and policies.
Maintain your health through a physical conditioning program.
Dedicate yourself to personal improvement and maintenance of your officiating skills.
Respect your supervisor and his/her critique of your performance.
Grant it this is for youth hockey but most rulles are the same at all levels. Funny I remember the Woodtick crowd telling the Stillwater parents how to act after the first gam between the two teams. Coinsidence that both occasions involves the Woodbury team?
Youngblood, please reread your post from the first Woodbury/Stillwater game and put it in context with your last reply.
If you read all the posts and put them together you may get a sense of what occurred in the game. There were a couple of instances in the game which got the crowd very emotional. In the second period, there was a penalty on Woodbury for tripping on one player which lead to the 10 minute misconduct on another player for 3rd man in. There was mention in earlier posts about mouth guards and talking back to the official but the call was 3rd man in. A couple of minutes later, there was a delayed penalty on Forest Lake. When the play stopped, Forest Lake had two penalities for slashing and interference. Woodbury ended up with one for diving. Anytime you have slashing and diving together, it will get the crowd emotional especially after the 3rd man in call was made just a few minutes earlier. This was the call that brought the pop on the ice.
Another instance where a shot was made on Gaffy which he gloved and he was sliding to the side of the goal. Just as the Woodbury player was about to pass him, the Woodbury player got a slight nudge from behind. At the same time, Gaffy stood up and moved in front of the Woodbury player who ran into him. Gaffy fell backward and his helmet flew off. A Forest Lake player then slashed the Woodbury player. Then it became who pushed who into the goalie, could the Woodbury player stop, etc. A penalty was assessed to the Woodbury player and one to Forest Lake.
There was one 12 minute stretch in the 3rd period where there were not penalties called and there was some very good hockey played by both teams.
Some factual adjustments are needed to this post....
-No "diving" penalty in HS rules; must of been something else.
-No "3rd man-in 10 misconduct" penalty in HS rules. 3rd man-in means there were fighting penalties issued, 3rd man-in draws automatic 5min/DQ; must have been something else.
youngblood08 wrote:On-Ice Officials Code of Conduct
Act in a professional and businesslike manner at all times and take your role seriously.
Strive to provide a safe and sportsmanlike environment in which players can properly display their hockey skills.
Know all playing rules, their interpretations and their proper application.
Remember that officials are teachers. Set a good example.
Make your calls with quiet confidence, never with arrogance.
Control games only to the extent that is necessary to provide a positive and safe experience for all participants.
Violence should never be tolerated.
Be fair and impartial at all times.
Answer all reasonable questions and requests.
Adopt a “zero tolerance” attitude toward verbal or physical abuse.
Never use foul or vulgar language when speaking with a player, coach or parent.
Use honesty and integrity when answering questions.
Admit your mistakes when you make them.
Never openly criticize a coach, player or other official.
Keep your emotions under control.
Use only USA Hockey–approved officiating techniques and policies.
Maintain your health through a physical conditioning program.
Dedicate yourself to personal improvement and maintenance of your officiating skills.
Respect your supervisor and his/her critique of your performance.
Grant it this is for youth hockey but most rulles are the same at all levels. Funny I remember the Woodtick crowd telling the Stillwater parents how to act after the first gam between the two teams. Coinsidence that both occasions involves the Woodbury team?
Youngblood, please reread your post from the first Woodbury/Stillwater game and put it in context with your last reply.
If you read all the posts and put them together you may get a sense of what occurred in the game. There were a couple of instances in the game which got the crowd very emotional. In the second period, there was a penalty on Woodbury for tripping on one player which lead to the 10 minute misconduct on another player for 3rd man in. There was mention in earlier posts about mouth guards and talking back to the official but the call was 3rd man in. A couple of minutes later, there was a delayed penalty on Forest Lake. When the play stopped, Forest Lake had two penalities for slashing and interference. Woodbury ended up with one for diving. Anytime you have slashing and diving together, it will get the crowd emotional especially after the 3rd man in call was made just a few minutes earlier. This was the call that brought the pop on the ice.
Another instance where a shot was made on Gaffy which he gloved and he was sliding to the side of the goal. Just as the Woodbury player was about to pass him, the Woodbury player got a slight nudge from behind. At the same time, Gaffy stood up and moved in front of the Woodbury player who ran into him. Gaffy fell backward and his helmet flew off. A Forest Lake player then slashed the Woodbury player. Then it became who pushed who into the goalie, could the Woodbury player stop, etc. A penalty was assessed to the Woodbury player and one to Forest Lake.
There was one 12 minute stretch in the 3rd period where there were not penalties called and there was some very good hockey played by both teams.
Some factual adjustments are needed to this post....
-No "diving" penalty in HS rules; must of been something else.
-No "3rd man-in 10 misconduct" penalty in HS rules. 3rd man-in means there were fighting penalties issued, 3rd man-in draws automatic 5min/DQ; must have been something else.
You may be absolutely right. Just reporting what is in the play by play put out by Hockey Hub which lists all the penalties. We all know what issues Hockey Hub has but somebody put in the descriptions of the penalties. And if they don't exist, this is another example of a very strange event.
HappyHockeyFan wrote:My experience with Woodbury fans and players at my sons JR Gold games has not been good either. They whine alot and they had two players receive match penalties against us earlier this season, one for kicking our player when he was down on the ice and another for spearing our player in the gut at the final buzzer. It seems to me like its a bigger problem than just one incident at the FL/Woodbury game. Just sayin...
Sorry HHF, I too was at that ugly game. My son is on that Woodbury team. Unfortunately, with the splitting of schools, that team only has 3 kids that attend Woodbury. The team is made up of kids from Apple Valley, Farmington, Cottage Grove, Hudson, East ridge, Hill Murray, and Cretin. Those actuons were not tolerated in the club, and both players are still suspended indefinately. You are right about the problem being widespread, but this incident didn't actually involve Woodbury kids. I for one am glad they are still serving suspensions for that game.
Thats good to know, because I was surprised by it, I did not really expect that coming from Woodbury kids. Goodluck down the stretch, time to make a playoff push.
It's not the Best players, it's the Right players! HB
observer wrote:Is the mentioned team Jr. Gold A or B? What are they called?
So, each has their own Jr. Gold A team and they run short of kids for Jr. Gold B and partner up?
Or, all 8 organizations pool their kids and then select a Jr. Gold A team with kids from 8 organizations and then form Jr. Gold B?
Or, it's the wild fricken west and everyone fends for themselves and kids end up on any number of different teams?
Not really the site for this dissussion but its U16, Eagan has all but two 3 kids from Eagan on the team. The other 3 came from Cottage Grove and Rosemount, programs that did not have enough kids to put together a U16 and so they find other Associations to take them in. As for Woodbury, I guess it had something to do with the splitting of kids between Woodbury and East Ridge.
It's not the Best players, it's the Right players! HB
I know the U16 team is made up of kids from woodbury, cottage grove, apple valley, farmington, and hill but i don't know if that is the team you guys are thinking of.
Just_Another_Fan wrote:I know the U16 team is made up of kids from woodbury, cottage grove, apple valley, farmington, and hill but i don't know if that is the team you guys are thinking of.
Just to clarify, this is the exact team that HHF was refering to like I said in the earlier post. Young Blood is exactly right about how these types of coalition teams are created. Most of the kids were told that their club would not support a 16U team, they were extreamly happy to find a club willing to take them in and they are playing under the woodbury club name.
Almost every club around has a few hot heads on there teams and they will show there true colors of sportsmanship atleast once a season. Its really too bad to see, but its a fact of numbers. I only put this in this thred because it was brought up.
Thanks for the encouragement and well wishes HHF. Same goes for your club. If we meet again at the rink watch for #4 in the Blue....
Well guys I broadcast this game and in any game amateur, youth, high school, collegiate, minor & pro level you hate to see anything thrown on the ice.
Let me just say this I have seen my share of old time knock down drag em out hockey games between our arch enemies to the East back home and it gets heated in the stands but never had anyone throw something on he ice.
When I see crap like that it just makes me think that whoever it may have been that they are living through their kids and just cant stand the fact of losing. Granted we all have had our share of bad calls I know I have played in a few of what would call homer ref games and I am not saying this was that type of situation but please compose yourself and dont throw anthing on the ice. Like that will solve anything.
I jokingly referred to it as Slapshot like. Only this didnt entail one of the players going into the stands to find out who threw that foreign object.
Bottom line it is what it is and this crap will happen again some where in the hockey world. Some parents and fans just dont get it still.
Just my two cents having called a game or two in my life and also having played one or two as well. Being from up North trust me we have had our share of moments people are not proud of. As adults we just need to hone up to mistakes and move on. Not sure if an apology ever came about from the incident but if this individual does or did make one then learn from it and move on.
Lord knows I have made my share of silly stupid mistakes. The old tail has been between the legs once or twice and I am sure this person is feeling the same way. If not well then he or she has a lot of learning in life yet to do.
Alrighty then. Off my soap box now. Time to get ready for the final drive as playoffs are right around he corner! Intensity picks up even more now folks.
The forest lake times reported that woodbury parent of the player that lost his helmet in the process of being escorted to the penalty box called to request assault charges. When told by police that the Woodbury youth, as the alleged victim, would have to make the formal filing, the father said he would drop the matter. Quiring said he offered to review game video tape but was relieved that the matter would be dropped. THe parent said that the issue would be communicated to the MSHSL.
Just_Another_Fan wrote:I know the U16 team is made up of kids from woodbury, cottage grove, apple valley, farmington, and hill but i don't know if that is the team you guys are thinking of.
Just to clarify, this is the exact team that HHF was refering to like I said in the earlier post. Young Blood is exactly right about how these types of coalition teams are created. Most of the kids were told that their club would not support a 16U team, they were extreamly happy to find a club willing to take them in and they are playing under the woodbury club name.
Almost every club around has a few hot heads on there teams and they will show there true colors of sportsmanship atleast once a season. Its really too bad to see, but its a fact of numbers. I only put this in this thred because it was brought up.
Thanks for the encouragement and well wishes HHF. Same goes for your club. If we meet again at the rink watch for #4 in the Blue....
Stillwater cut 10 kids when forming the U16 team. From what I heard, D2 WOULD NOT allow those 10 kids to waiver to Woodbury's U16 team so I believe most went to Mahtomedia Junior Gold B. Not 100% sure on that. I was surprised that even at our level they still play politics between the districts.
youngblood08 wrote:That has to do with keeping D2 kids in D2.
Ya, I head that. I was just kind of surprised they wouldn't let the kids play wherever was the most convenient for the parents and kids. It was nice there was a team in Maht for them to go to.
