Saturday's Forest Lake - Woodbury varsity game

[FLRanger27]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

[Indians90]

I had heard the same thing from one of the ref's of that very game. That parent may have just watched his son play for the last time.

[Just_Another_Fan]

I am from woodbury. And i don't have kid on the varsity team but i do have kids in the program. That behavior is unacceptable. The more we as parents act like gorillas the more our kids will. If you have bad things to say about the refs, find a place along the glass where you can't throw something at the refs. It always seems with any programs that if one parent is vocal the louder and louder the surrounding parents are. Like USA hockey says, Relax it's just a game.

[Goldfishdude]

I, by NO means, am a racist nor a political correct advocate, but, I find this thread entertaining as to the first two posts were by a Ranger and an Indian, who were at war with each other back in the day!!

Would you guys please change your user names to more peaceful, politically correct names like.... oh.... the Blaze... or Thunderhawks... or Roses???

[Goldfishdude]

Ponies..... that reminded me...

Me and Youngie had PMs about the WBL v Stillwater game where I was told by the WBL athletic trainer that a couple of Ponies parents were almost escorted from Aldrich at the end of the game.

I told Youngie... "Shame on that behavior!! It's ridiculous!!"

Youngie replied... "I didn't hear about any of our parents getting in trouble."

Come to find out, it was two WBL parents that went after the officials - but I was told that our WBL parents were just asking the refs if they needed their cars warmed up, and windows scraped off.

In all seriousness.... I wish the message can be sent out in a more perfect avenue, but, if people really understood the ramifications and embarassment it had upon the fans, upon the kids and the representation, or lack thereof, and MAYBE, just maybe, handle things in a better way, there wouldn't be as many problems as we seem to have today.

What I mean by this is - rather than throw things on the ice, go attack officials and get arrested or whatnot, if people actually did a more effective approach, like..

* get the names of the officials on ice, and send in your complaint to the person in charge of officials, with the infraction on the ice, and basically, recreate the accident, so to speak, and make them accountable for their work. The head of officials would then review the complaint with the official if there were issues that need to be addressed. If an official is poor, maybe he/she loses their job, and that saves the embarassment of someone getting hauled off in cuffs wearing WBL Bears clothing, and getting mentioned on this forum..

What do I know, though??... I am just waiting for All My Children to come on at noon!

[eastside_fan]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

From someone who was at this game, I would like to address the following comments:
1. No one condones the throwing of the CUP of pop on to the ice that spilled, did not explode, but the emotion behind the action was real, misdirected, but real.
2. A Flake fan threw the first punch
3. The player involved in the scrim at the end of the game was:
a. pulled to the ice by the ref causing his helmet to come off
b. was pushed off the ice from behind at the door, causing him to lose balance and COULD have potentially caused an injury
c. This type of action by an official is NEVER acceptable regardless of your fan allegiance
4. This player is not the son of the pop thrower.
5. From the Woodbury perspective, the refs had an agenda, whether true or not, everyone's perception becomes their reality
6. The Flake fans are not totally blameless here. They were as vocal as were the Woodbury fans, just in a different manner, directing comments to the Woodbury fans

...and to paraphrase another post, "Unless you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones." Just laying out a different perspective.

[justme]

Ponies..... that reminded me...

Me and Youngie had PMs about the WBL v Stillwater game where I was told by the WBL athletic trainer that a couple of Ponies parents were almost escorted from Aldrich at the end of the game.

I told Youngie... "Shame on that behavior!! It's ridiculous!!"

Youngie replied... "I didn't hear about any of our parents getting in trouble."

Come to find out, it was two WBL parents that went after the officials - but I was told that our WBL parents were just asking the refs if they needed their cars warmed up, and windows scraped off.

In all seriousness.... I wish the message can be sent out in a more perfect avenue, but, if people really understood the ramifications and embarassment it had upon the fans, upon the kids and the representation, or lack thereof, and MAYBE, just maybe, handle things in a better way, there wouldn't be as many problems as we seem to have today.

What I mean by this is - rather than throw things on the ice, go attack officials and get arrested or whatnot, if people actually did a more effective approach, like..

* get the names of the officials on ice, and send in your complaint to the person in charge of officials, with the infraction on the ice, and basically, recreate the accident, so to speak, and make them accountable for their work. The head of officials would then review the complaint with the official if there were issues that need to be addressed. If an official is poor, maybe he/she loses their job, and that saves the embarassment of someone getting hauled off in cuffs wearing WBL Bears clothing, and getting mentioned on this forum..

What do I know, though??... I am just waiting for All My Children to come on at noon!

Imagine that youngy saying " I didn't hear about any of our parents getting into trouble"

[surehockey]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

From someone who was at this game, I would like to address the following comments:
1. No one condones the throwing of the CUP of pop on to the ice that spilled, did not explode, but the emotion behind the action was real, misdirected, but real.
2. A Flake fan threw the first punch
3. The player involved in the scrim at the end of the game was:
a. pulled to the ice by the ref causing his helmet to come off
b. was pushed off the ice from behind at the door, causing him to lose balance and COULD have potentially caused an injury
c. This type of action by an official is NEVER acceptable regardless of your fan allegiance
4. This player is not the son of the pop thrower.
5. From the Woodbury perspective, the refs had an agenda, whether true or not, everyone's perception becomes their reality
6. The Flake fans are not totally blameless here. They were as vocal as were the Woodbury fans, just in a different manner, directing comments to the Woodbury fans

...and to paraphrase another post, "Unless you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones." Just laying out a different perspective.

Are you saying the refs where for Flake??? That is why Woodbury lost, Woodbury ADULT threw whatever on the ice, and the altercation??? THE issue is a parent/adult didn't act like one. DO NOT PUT THIS ON THE REFS. There are young children, mine included that attend the games. What kind of example are we setting??? If you want to set that example for your kids, that is your business, just don't do it around mine like you did!!!! Suck it up, take the loss and come out playing harder the next time you hit the ice.

[surehockey]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

From someone who was at this game, I would like to address the following comments:
1. No one condones the throwing of the CUP of pop on to the ice that spilled, did not explode, but the emotion behind the action was real, misdirected, but real.
2. A Flake fan threw the first punch
3. The player involved in the scrim at the end of the game was:
a. pulled to the ice by the ref causing his helmet to come off
b. was pushed off the ice from behind at the door, causing him to lose balance and COULD have potentially caused an injury
c. This type of action by an official is NEVER acceptable regardless of your fan allegiance
4. This player is not the son of the pop thrower.
5. From the Woodbury perspective, the refs had an agenda, whether true or not, everyone's perception becomes their reality
6. The Flake fans are not totally blameless here. They were as vocal as were the Woodbury fans, just in a different manner, directing comments to the Woodbury fans

...and to paraphrase another post, "Unless you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones." Just laying out a different perspective.

[eastside_fan]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

From someone who was at this game, I would like to address the following comments:
1. No one condones the throwing of the CUP of pop on to the ice that spilled, did not explode, but the emotion behind the action was real, misdirected, but real.
2. A Flake fan threw the first punch
3. The player involved in the scrim at the end of the game was:
a. pulled to the ice by the ref causing his helmet to come off
b. was pushed off the ice from behind at the door, causing him to lose balance and COULD have potentially caused an injury
c. This type of action by an official is NEVER acceptable regardless of your fan allegiance
4. This player is not the son of the pop thrower.
5. From the Woodbury perspective, the refs had an agenda, whether true or not, everyone's perception becomes their reality
6. The Flake fans are not totally blameless here. They were as vocal as were the Woodbury fans, just in a different manner, directing comments to the Woodbury fans

...and to paraphrase another post, "Unless you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones." Just laying out a different perspective.

Are you saying the refs where for Flake??? That is why Woodbury lost, Woodbury ADULT threw whatever on the ice, and the altercation??? THE issue is a parent/adult didn't act like one. DO NOT PUT THIS ON THE REFS. There are young children, mine included that attend the games. What kind of example are we setting??? If you want to set that example for your kids, that is your business, just don't do it around mine like you did!!!! Suck it up, take the loss and come out playing harder the next time you hit the ice.

No...I am not saying that is why Woodbury lost. I was addressing the comments made by someone who was not at the game to provide some level of clarity. Woodbury lost becasue they didn't score enough goals...plain and simple. The original post by FLRanger contained some discrepancies and I was addressing them and attempting to provide some insight as to why things reached the point they did. I was not implying that the reffing caused the loss. The reference to the one particular ref called out his actions and his actions alone, which were not acceptable, for either side of the coin.

[PoniesDad45]

Ponies..... that reminded me...

Me and Youngie had PMs about the WBL v Stillwater game where I was told by the WBL athletic trainer that a couple of Ponies parents were almost escorted from Aldrich at the end of the game.

I told Youngie... "Shame on that behavior!! It's ridiculous!!"

Youngie replied... "I didn't hear about any of our parents getting in trouble."

Come to find out, it was two WBL parents that went after the officials - but I was told that our WBL parents were just asking the refs if they needed their cars warmed up, and windows scraped off.

In all seriousness.... I wish the message can be sent out in a more perfect avenue, but, if people really understood the ramifications and embarassment it had upon the fans, upon the kids and the representation, or lack thereof, and MAYBE, just maybe, handle things in a better way, there wouldn't be as many problems as we seem to have today.

What I mean by this is - rather than throw things on the ice, go attack officials and get arrested or whatnot, if people actually did a more effective approach, like..

* get the names of the officials on ice, and send in your complaint to the person in charge of officials, with the infraction on the ice, and basically, recreate the accident, so to speak, and make them accountable for their work. The head of officials would then review the complaint with the official if there were issues that need to be addressed. If an official is poor, maybe he/she loses their job, and that saves the embarassment of someone getting hauled off in cuffs wearing WBL Bears clothing, and getting mentioned on this forum..

What do I know, though??... I am just waiting for All My Children to come on at noon!

Goldy, sorry I deleted my post but after I read it I thought it looked kind of preachy

So I decided to opt out. BTW, I've heard you White Bear parents are pretty cool, come to think of it I've never had to scrape my windows after a game at White Bear!

[brandy38]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

From someone who was at this game, I would like to address the following comments:
1. No one condones the throwing of the CUP of pop on to the ice that spilled, did not explode, but the emotion behind the action was real, misdirected, but real.
2. A Flake fan threw the first punch
3. The player involved in the scrim at the end of the game was:
a. pulled to the ice by the ref causing his helmet to come off
b. was pushed off the ice from behind at the door, causing him to lose balance and COULD have potentially caused an injury
c. This type of action by an official is NEVER acceptable regardless of your fan allegiance
4. This player is not the son of the pop thrower.
5. From the Woodbury perspective, the refs had an agenda, whether true or not, everyone's perception becomes their reality
6. The Flake fans are not totally blameless here. They were as vocal as were the Woodbury fans, just in a different manner, directing comments to the Woodbury fans

...and to paraphrase another post, "Unless you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones." Just laying out a different perspective.

Not the first time that's happened...

Also, I never thought Woodbury/FLake was too much of a rivalry. I guess it will be next year .

[northwoods oldtimer]

Hope this game is as feisty as the first game up in flake. Old school hockey Keep us rubes posted!

[gophs16]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

Well how about nobody throws stones, thats just bad behavior. Or what if this person that is in the glass house is trapped and only has stones. He should definitely throw the stones. So lets change it to "Only people in glass houses should throw stones, provided they are trapped in the house with a stone." Its a little longer but it works.

[wblhockeyfan8]

Gah! the "who did what" of this thread is meaningless.

Bottom line:

No matter who you are, where you are from, whose parent you are, and what you think someones agenda is---Keep your trash in the bins, keep the punches to yourself, and for god sake stop making a fool of yourself.

The fact that this topic was created proves the point that behavior like this is detrimental to your organization. Woodbury hockey is great, they are competitive year after year, and stuff like this leads people to say (like the OP) that Woodbury parents contradict themselves by saying otehr teams parents are too rowdy.
This goes for everybody!

Hockey is a beautiful game, that's a hell of a lot of fun to watch and even more fun to play. Behavior like this is what ruins peoples opinions about this great game, and it's gonna keep onlooking parents from starting their kids out in youth hockey.

It destroys the fun for every fan and player, not to mention you look like a wiener in front of a large crowd of people.

[karl(east)]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

Well how about nobody throws stones, thats just bad behavior. Or what if this person that is in the glass house is trapped and only has stones. He should definitely throw the stones. So lets change it to "Only people in glass houses should throw stones, provided they are trapped in the house with a stone." Its a little longer but it works.

I dunno, you make it sound like the only reason people can throw stones would be if they're in a glass house. Aren't there some other times when throwing stones would be acceptable?

[wblhockeyfan8]

I wasn't at the Forest Lake vs. Woodbury varsity game last Saturday night, but I was told some disturbing things from multiple people who were there.

As I understand it, a parent of a Woodbury varsity player (not a high school kid, but a parent!) got upset by what he thought was a bad call and threw a bottle of soda onto the ice, which exploded. Then, when confronted by a Forest Lake fan, that same parent started exchanging punches.

Also, one of Woodbury's top players (not sure if dad was the soda thrower or not) decided to get into the mix by lipping off the an official and subsequently drew a 10 minute misconduct.

When all was said and done and the game was over (a Forest Lake win), the refs had to be escorted out of the rink for safety reasons.

I read through these forum topics quite a bit and have seen some Woodbury parents/fans bash other associations/schools for their poor behavior. Perhaps these people should look in the mirror before bashing other programs. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

Well how about nobody throws stones, thats just bad behavior. Or what if this person that is in the glass house is trapped and only has stones. He should definitely throw the stones. So lets change it to "Only people in glass houses should throw stones, provided they are trapped in the house with a stone." Its a little longer but it works.

I dunno, you make it sound like the only reason people can throw stones would be if they're in a glass house. Aren't there some other times when throwing stones would be acceptable?

When you're throwing them at private school kids.

[Goldfishdude]

All I know, is that in the rematch, if this breaks out, I am getting there early and a front row seat..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yw8GTNOECY

[rookie]

The woodbury player who got the 10 minute misconduct it was because he did not have a mouthguard in.

[karl(east)]

Well how about nobody throws stones, thats just bad behavior. Or what if this person that is in the glass house is trapped and only has stones. He should definitely throw the stones. So lets change it to "Only people in glass houses should throw stones, provided they are trapped in the house with a stone." Its a little longer but it works.

I dunno, you make it sound like the only reason people can throw stones would be if they're in a glass house. Aren't there some other times when throwing stones would be acceptable?

When you're throwing them at private school kids.

Exactly! I'm glad someone gets it.

Though come to think of it, I'm a private school kid now too.

[youngblood08]

On-Ice Officials Code of Conduct
Act in a professional and businesslike manner at all times and take your role seriously.
Strive to provide a safe and sportsmanlike environment in which players can properly display their hockey skills.
Know all playing rules, their interpretations and their proper application.
Remember that officials are teachers. Set a good example.
Make your calls with quiet confidence, never with arrogance.
Control games only to the extent that is necessary to provide a positive and safe experience for all participants.
Violence should never be tolerated.
Be fair and impartial at all times.
Answer all reasonable questions and requests.
Adopt a “zero tolerance” attitude toward verbal or physical abuse.
Never use foul or vulgar language when speaking with a player, coach or parent.
Use honesty and integrity when answering questions.
Admit your mistakes when you make them.
Never openly criticize a coach, player or other official.
Keep your emotions under control.
Use only USA Hockey–approved officiating techniques and policies.
Maintain your health through a physical conditioning program.
Dedicate yourself to personal improvement and maintenance of your officiating skills.
Respect your supervisor and his/her critique of your performance.


Grant it this is for youth hockey but most rulles are the same at all levels. Funny I remember the Woodtick crowd telling the Stillwater parents how to act after the first gam between the two teams. Coinsidence that both occasions involves the Woodbury team?

[wblhockeyfan8]

Good old Bruins!

The difference between that situation and now is those fans probably deserved it!

[Sykes]

On-Ice Officials Code of Conduct
Act in a professional and businesslike manner at all times and take your role seriously.
Strive to provide a safe and sportsmanlike environment in which players can properly display their hockey skills.
Know all playing rules, their interpretations and their proper application.
Remember that officials are teachers. Set a good example.
Make your calls with quiet confidence, never with arrogance.
Control games only to the extent that is necessary to provide a positive and safe experience for all participants.
Violence should never be tolerated.
Be fair and impartial at all times.
Answer all reasonable questions and requests.
Adopt a “zero tolerance” attitude toward verbal or physical abuse.
Never use foul or vulgar language when speaking with a player, coach or parent.
Use honesty and integrity when answering questions.
Admit your mistakes when you make them.
Never openly criticize a coach, player or other official.
Keep your emotions under control.
Use only USA Hockey–approved officiating techniques and policies.
Maintain your health through a physical conditioning program.
Dedicate yourself to personal improvement and maintenance of your officiating skills.
Respect your supervisor and his/her critique of your performance.


Grant it this is for youth hockey but most rulles are the same at all levels. Funny I remember the Woodtick crowd telling the Stillwater parents how to act after the first gam between the two teams. Coinsidence that both occasions involves the Woodbury team?

Youngblood, please reread your post from the first Woodbury/Stillwater game and put it in context with your last reply.

If you read all the posts and put them together you may get a sense of what occurred in the game. There were a couple of instances in the game which got the crowd very emotional. In the second period, there was a penalty on Woodbury for tripping on one player which lead to the 10 minute misconduct on another player for 3rd man in. There was mention in earlier posts about mouth guards and talking back to the official but the call was 3rd man in. A couple of minutes later, there was a delayed penalty on Forest Lake. When the play stopped, Forest Lake had two penalities for slashing and interference. Woodbury ended up with one for diving. Anytime you have slashing and diving together, it will get the crowd emotional especially after the 3rd man in call was made just a few minutes earlier. This was the call that brought the pop on the ice.

Another instance where a shot was made on Gaffy which he gloved and he was sliding to the side of the goal. Just as the Woodbury player was about to pass him, the Woodbury player got a slight nudge from behind. At the same time, Gaffy stood up and moved in front of the Woodbury player who ran into him. Gaffy fell backward and his helmet flew off. A Forest Lake player then slashed the Woodbury player. Then it became who pushed who into the goalie, could the Woodbury player stop, etc. A penalty was assessed to the Woodbury player and one to Forest Lake.

There was one 12 minute stretch in the 3rd period where there were not penalties called and there was some very good hockey played by both teams.

[HappyHockeyFan]

My experience with Woodbury fans and players at my sons JR Gold games has not been good either. They whine alot and they had two players receive match penalties against us earlier this season, one for kicking our player when he was down on the ice and another for spearing our player in the gut at the final buzzer. It seems to me like its a bigger problem than just one incident at the FL/Woodbury game. Just sayin...

[eastside hockey]

My experience with Woodbury fans and players at my sons JR Gold games has not been good either. They whine alot and they had two players receive match penalties against us earlier this season, one for kicking our player when he was down on the ice and another for spearing our player in the gut at the final buzzer. It seems to me like its a bigger problem than just one incident at the FL/Woodbury game. Just sayin...

Sorry HHF, I too was at that ugly game. My son is on that Woodbury team. Unfortunately, with the splitting of schools, that team only has 3 kids that attend Woodbury. The team is made up of kids from Apple Valley, Farmington, Cottage Grove, Hudson, East ridge, Hill Murray, and Cretin. Those actuons were not tolerated in the club, and both players are still suspended indefinately. You are right about the problem being widespread, but this incident didn't actually involve Woodbury kids. I for one am glad they are still serving suspensions for that game.