Why is minnesota the state of hockey and Michigan is not??

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:51 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/s ... id=3905895

Someone posted this a while back on this forum and this thread reminded me of it.

mj79 · Post by **mj79** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:17 pm

Thanks guys for the numbers again

Its pretty hard to argue, but at this point he feels the need to get defensive because hes not gonna win this battle.. I guess everyone thinks the state they live in is best at something, but he just fails to see the difference between truth and what he wants to be truth.. Oh well, some ppl fail to see the obvious

greybeard58 · Post by **greybeard58** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:44 pm

There have been a total of 557 players drafted from the United States from 2000 to 2009.
TOTAL 2000-2009 U.S.
NHL DRAFT TOTAL
%
MINN.*133**23.88%
MASS **68**12.21%
MICH***67**12.03%
N.Y.****63**11.31%
ILL.****26***4.67%
CAL.****27**4.85%
WIS.***22***3.95%

wblhockeyfan8 · Post by **wblhockeyfan8** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:53 pm

Goldfishdude wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:"we have Hill-Murray" was your strongest comment, the rest was just filler.
Aahhhhh... you caught that? I thought I might get you to respond!!!!!

They did have Steve Janaszak!

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:53 pm

Those are some impressive stats greybeard, where did you find them?

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:26 pm

wblhockeyfan8 wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:"we have Hill-Murray" was your strongest comment, the rest was just filler.
Aahhhhh... you caught that? I thought I might get you to respond!!!!!
They did have Steve Janaszak!

FAN8....he's a WBL boy!!!! Go look at his pic in the Sports Center!!!

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:28 pm

Goldfishdude wrote:
wblhockeyfan8 wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote: Aahhhhh... you caught that? I thought I might get you to respond!!!!!
They did have Steve Janaszak!
FAN8....he's a WBL boy!!!! Go look at his pic in the Sports Center!!!

Just another Hill Bench warmer on the Global stage.

Mite-dad · Post by **Mite-dad** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:38 am

Look at last year's end of year high school hockey rankings and see how many MN high schools are in the top 25.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:28 pm

Not a perfect science, but when you look at Mitch Hawker's end of the year rankings with MN/WI/ND/MI, MI had 4 teams in the top 25, ND 1, and MN 20...

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:02 am

mj79 wrote:THIS is the question.. A guy is trying to tell me why michigan is such a better hockey state, from HS all the way to the pros, how better players come from MI , they have better teams, better players come out of MI in general etc etc , hes an idiot, so its hard to take him serious as he is making no valid points or iving me any good examples.. So what do you guys think ??

Minnesota's population (as of 2005 census)- 5,132,799

Michigan's population (as of 2005 census)- 10,120,860

Minnesota's total number of registered players, coaches and officials according to USA Hockey - 64,238 (just players 52,333)

Michigan's total number of registered players, coaches and officials according to USA Hockey - 61,491 (just players 52,022)

Michigan makes a strong argument for being the solid #2 but the numbers say Minnesota is still #1 in the U.S.

Now Minnesota should help encourage Wisconsin (and it's similar population) to increase the sports popularity. There seems to be no reason Wisconsin shouldn't have atleast 30,000 registered participants but instead only boasts around 18,000 (not bad, but really not good either). Let's face it, Wisconsin is never going to be a football or bball hotbed but it could be producing great hockey like the Michigan's and Minnesota's and that would be good for the overall state of hockey

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:51 pm

Why do people from other states keep claiming this? I've never heard anyone from Minnesota claim to be the state of basketball, baseball, football, etc, etc because we're not. Not even close, there's no numbers to support any of it. But our residents still play those sports. Why can't they play hockey and just understand what place they fall in? I've had a "civil discussions" with a friend from Wisconsin in the past about this. I couldn't even believe he was making the claim.

Play for the love of the game, not your location geographically.

yeahyeahyeah · Post by **yeahyeahyeah** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:34 am

Hey i was reading John Buccigross' Mail bag and noticed another Michigan D-bag ragging on MN hockey, State of Hockey. I hope you don't mind but I used a lot of the information supplied on this thread to B slap him.
Here is the link to the comments section. I have to admit it was kind of fun.

http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/sh ... &status=ok

mnhockeyfan77 · Post by **mnhockeyfan77** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:04 am

mj79 wrote:Thanks guys, Alot of good info there clearly Minnesota holds it's own from all levels hs thru the pros bt it's nice to see actual stats on how many good players come from mn. So if anyone is bored who are the Minnesota born NHL players , And who are NHL players that either went to hs or college in MN? Tj oshie I'm assuming is the most recent NHL recruit and Crosby the best?

cant forget david backes who plays for st.louis, i heard he was an assistant captain for the usa olympic team? he is from that small little town everyone bashes on, spring lake park.

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