Woodbury vs. WBL 1-12-09
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Woodbury vs. WBL 1-12-09
Predictions, insights, and comments.
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Now don't take this personally but....
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Woodbury's confidence was shot after the park game and the lack of confidence lingered all the way through the holiday break. Woodbury had a big win over roseville last night and slowly but surely the royals are getting their swagger back. I'm sure the royals know how big of a game this is in relation to who will win the conference. Royals will come out hard for this one.mngophs04 wrote:If Park could, WBL certainly can. Doesn't mean they necessarily will though. I think this one could go either way.youngblood08 wrote:I think this one wakes the Ticks up. The Bears lack the maturity to take the Royals down.
Ticks 5 - WBL 1
White Bear 4 (maybe EN?)
Woodbury 2
Now don't take this personally but....
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I haven't done my reserach yet, but I will add this point. Although Park stunned Woodbury, that was earlier in the year - second game.mngophs04 wrote:If Park could, WBL certainly can. Doesn't mean they necessarily will though. I think this one could go either way.youngblood08 wrote:I think this one wakes the Ticks up. The Bears lack the maturity to take the Royals down.
Ticks 5 - WBL 1
White Bear 4 (maybe EN?)
Woodbury 2
Last week, WBL struggled vs East Ridge and only won 5-2 and squeaked by Park 7-5. In a week stretch of common opponents early in the year, WBL whipped Hastings 7-1 and Hastings beat East Ridge 4-1, so logic dictated WBL would crush East Ridge by 9 goals.... And... even though WBL beat Hastings 7-1 and Park 7-5, Hastings beat Park 5-3.
My point is you have to factor how teams have played in the past couple weeks, not early December, and I will throw out the Woodbury loss to Park (as I will throw out the WBL loss to MV). I am willing to bet Woodbury is alot better, and even though WBL beat CDH 3-2 Saturday, they struggled versus Park and Ridge... Which WBL team will show up? the one vs Park/East Ridge or the one vs CDH?
Both should have decent/moderate confidence going into this game.
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I see your point. Although, it is hard to judge from anything but record when you haven't seen a team play. You look up Woodbury, see a loss to Park, and think White Bear should beat them no problem. I'll agree with you that isn't always the case.Goldfishdude wrote:I haven't done my reserach yet, but I will add this point. Although Park stunned Woodbury, that was earlier in the year - second game.mngophs04 wrote:If Park could, WBL certainly can. Doesn't mean they necessarily will though. I think this one could go either way.youngblood08 wrote:I think this one wakes the Ticks up. The Bears lack the maturity to take the Royals down.
Ticks 5 - WBL 1
White Bear 4 (maybe EN?)
Woodbury 2
Last week, WBL struggled vs East Ridge and only won 5-2 and squeaked by Park 7-5. In a week stretch of common opponents early in the year, WBL whipped Hastings 7-1 and Hastings beat East Ridge 4-1, so logic dictated WBL would crush East Ridge by 9 goals.... And... even though WBL beat Hastings 7-1 and Park 7-5, Hastings beat Park 5-3.
My point is you have to factor how teams have played in the past couple weeks, not early December, and I will throw out the Woodbury loss to Park (as I will throw out the WBL loss to MV). I am willing to bet Woodbury is alot better, and even though WBL beat CDH 3-2 Saturday, they struggled versus Park and Ridge... Which WBL team will show up? the one vs Park/East Ridge or the one vs CDH?
Both should have decent/moderate confidence going into this game.
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Here's the Preview:
After both teams have finished up a rather difficult non-conference schedule, it is fair to analyze both teams are heading in the right direction, and the statistical aspect just really shows how close these two teams are matched.
WBL 5-1 SEC (8-5 overall), has won three in a row, including a crucial 3-2 victory Sat vs CDH, and 4 of 5. WBL's losses are at the hands of Hill-Murray twice, St. Thomas, (Duluth) East, and MV. Nice wins versus Stillwater, Holy Angels and CDH. To date, WBL has 50 goals for and 44 goals against.
Woodbury enters this game at 5-1-1 SEC (7-6-1) with two wins in a row against MV and Roseville, after a tough holiday tournament. Key wins versus MV, Stillwater and Tartan.. Tough losses versus Minnetonka, Edina, Centennial, Wayzata, Elk River - and then Park. Woodbury has 42 goals for and 43 against.
This matchup will feature some of the Metro area's better players as Woodbury has Elite I league players Max Gaede (10 G and 20 pts) and Walker Hyland (4 G and 13 pts) and WBL counters with Brandon Wahlin (9 G and 25 pts), Max Birkinbine (11 G and 17 pts) and Ryan Wolter ( 7G and 10 pts). Justin Hauswirth (3 G and 11 pts) is also in the mix.
WBL: avg 3.84 goals scored and 3.38 goals against. Woodtown: avg 3.00 goals for and 3.07 goal against.
Wahlin and Birkinbine have been on fire as of late. Wahlin alone had just as many points (5) in one game last week as Gaede has had in the past 4 games combined. Other than the Elite I players, both teams have bunches of players capable of scoring, so all the lines look like good matches.
Gaede and Hyland will need to stay out of the penalty box, as both players are listed in the top three minutes leaders for Woodbury. Both teams are below average for their specialty teams on PP units with 11% for WBL and 7% for Woodbury. Considering the quality of players, both coaches need to be disappointed in the effectiveness. Penalty kills for both teams are around 85%.
UPDATE:
Let's throw out all non-conference foes, and get a better grip here.
WBL's Jared Schletty in SEC play has started 4 games and is 4-0 with a 2.00 GAA and an excellent save % of .912. At this stage, he is a candidate for All-Conference. Schletty has beaten Stillwater and CDH. He has faced 91 shots with 8 goals scored.
However, Michael Ness was not the starting goalie in the loss to Park. He entered the game late, and stopped all 9 shots he faced. Ness, I believe, WAS All-Conference a year ago. Ness has an SEC 1.33 GAA and a staggering .946 Save %. He shut out Stillwater, and four of his other SEC starts he gave up just 1 goal, and has an SEC record of 5-0-1 - well onto another All-Conference nomination.
Something has to give...
Will WBL's high-powered first-line be able to break the brick wall of Ness?
2-2 tie
After both teams have finished up a rather difficult non-conference schedule, it is fair to analyze both teams are heading in the right direction, and the statistical aspect just really shows how close these two teams are matched.
WBL 5-1 SEC (8-5 overall), has won three in a row, including a crucial 3-2 victory Sat vs CDH, and 4 of 5. WBL's losses are at the hands of Hill-Murray twice, St. Thomas, (Duluth) East, and MV. Nice wins versus Stillwater, Holy Angels and CDH. To date, WBL has 50 goals for and 44 goals against.
Woodbury enters this game at 5-1-1 SEC (7-6-1) with two wins in a row against MV and Roseville, after a tough holiday tournament. Key wins versus MV, Stillwater and Tartan.. Tough losses versus Minnetonka, Edina, Centennial, Wayzata, Elk River - and then Park. Woodbury has 42 goals for and 43 against.
This matchup will feature some of the Metro area's better players as Woodbury has Elite I league players Max Gaede (10 G and 20 pts) and Walker Hyland (4 G and 13 pts) and WBL counters with Brandon Wahlin (9 G and 25 pts), Max Birkinbine (11 G and 17 pts) and Ryan Wolter ( 7G and 10 pts). Justin Hauswirth (3 G and 11 pts) is also in the mix.
WBL: avg 3.84 goals scored and 3.38 goals against. Woodtown: avg 3.00 goals for and 3.07 goal against.
Wahlin and Birkinbine have been on fire as of late. Wahlin alone had just as many points (5) in one game last week as Gaede has had in the past 4 games combined. Other than the Elite I players, both teams have bunches of players capable of scoring, so all the lines look like good matches.
Gaede and Hyland will need to stay out of the penalty box, as both players are listed in the top three minutes leaders for Woodbury. Both teams are below average for their specialty teams on PP units with 11% for WBL and 7% for Woodbury. Considering the quality of players, both coaches need to be disappointed in the effectiveness. Penalty kills for both teams are around 85%.
UPDATE:
Let's throw out all non-conference foes, and get a better grip here.
WBL's Jared Schletty in SEC play has started 4 games and is 4-0 with a 2.00 GAA and an excellent save % of .912. At this stage, he is a candidate for All-Conference. Schletty has beaten Stillwater and CDH. He has faced 91 shots with 8 goals scored.
However, Michael Ness was not the starting goalie in the loss to Park. He entered the game late, and stopped all 9 shots he faced. Ness, I believe, WAS All-Conference a year ago. Ness has an SEC 1.33 GAA and a staggering .946 Save %. He shut out Stillwater, and four of his other SEC starts he gave up just 1 goal, and has an SEC record of 5-0-1 - well onto another All-Conference nomination.
Something has to give...
Will WBL's high-powered first-line be able to break the brick wall of Ness?
2-2 tie
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Goldfishdude wrote:Here's the Preview:
WBL's Jared Schletty in SEC play has started 4 games and is 4-0 with a 2.00 GAA and an excellent save % of .912. At this stage, he is a candidate for All-Conference. Schletty has beaten Stillwater and CDH. He has faced 91 shots with 8 goals scored.
[b]Love it when recognition is given to a guy other wise overlooked/sidelined. Gotta agree [/b]
Agreed, both goalies appear to be playing well in the SEC, but don't put to much stock in being named All-Conference. I believe last years SEC had 5 or 6 goalies named All-Conference out of 8 teams. (Moberg, Collette, Ness, Podebinski, and I think CDH and/or Hastings)Goldfishdude wrote:Here's the Preview:
UPDATE:
Let's throw out all non-conference foes, and get a better grip here.
WBL's Jared Schletty in SEC play has started 4 games and is 4-0 with a 2.00 GAA and an excellent save % of .912. At this stage, he is a candidate for All-Conference. Schletty has beaten Stillwater and CDH. He has faced 91 shots with 8 goals scored.
However, Michael Ness was not the starting goalie in the loss to Park. He entered the game late, and stopped all 9 shots he faced. Ness, I believe, WAS All-Conference a year ago. Ness has an SEC 1.33 GAA and a staggering .946 Save %. He shut out Stillwater, and four of his other SEC starts he gave up just 1 goal, and has an SEC record of 5-0-1 - well onto another All-Conference nomination.
Don't get me wrong, its a great honor to be named All-Conference, but one would think All-Conference would be similar to a team roster: 2 Goalies, 6 Defensemen, and 12 Forwards. I was very surprised when last years came out and I saw the # of goaltenders mentioned.

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wblhockeyfan8 wrote:White Bear knows what needs to be done to take down a good team. The question will be-does that team show up?
WBL showed what it could do against Cretin, if the D and Goalies can be as strong as they were against CDH...
WBL 5
WB 4
Based on the lastest....................that team won't show up for about 2 weeks.
So, lets hear it Youngy. What have you heard?youngblood08 wrote:wblhockeyfan8 wrote:White Bear knows what needs to be done to take down a good team. The question will be-does that team show up?
WBL showed what it could do against Cretin, if the D and Goalies can be as strong as they were against CDH...
WBL 5
WB 4
Based on the lastest....................that team won't show up for about 2 weeks.
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