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Rather than look at the win loss stats, how about how many players stay and how is the recruitment of new players.
Is the association well organized?
Have the players not only developed in skills but also improved self confidence in themselves?
How many players stay involved long after the association level, coaching refereeing and keep playing in the adult leagues or just keep rink ratting?
Has the association developed a strong tradition not only with in themselves but also a strong tradition with the community?
Have the players learned to enjoy and love this sport or just play it?
The strong associations keep on going and the weak ones will always struggle until they finally see the bigger picture, that this is not about me or my child, this is about the team, association and community.
Is the association well organized?
Have the players not only developed in skills but also improved self confidence in themselves?
How many players stay involved long after the association level, coaching refereeing and keep playing in the adult leagues or just keep rink ratting?
Has the association developed a strong tradition not only with in themselves but also a strong tradition with the community?
Have the players learned to enjoy and love this sport or just play it?
The strong associations keep on going and the weak ones will always struggle until they finally see the bigger picture, that this is not about me or my child, this is about the team, association and community.
District 3
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Armstrong
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 40.75 38.30 -2.45
B1 15 32.87 29.02 -3.84
B2 13 25.96 24.48 -1.48
C 15 18.00 16.45 -1.55
Overall 56 -2.41
Grade D
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Hopkins
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 39.62 41.88 +2.26
B1 15 29.49 31.36 +1.87
B2 15 19.36 21.41 +2.04
Overall 45 +2.07
Grade: A-
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Minneapolis Park
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 44.54 42.87 -1.67
B1 15 37.65 33.93 -3.72
B2 Black 15 30.91 30.38 -0.53
B2 Purple 15 32.11 27.78 -4.33
C Black 15 20.46 22.89 +2.43
C Orange 16 21.79 18.08 -3.71
C Purple 16 21.65 20.20 -1.45
Overall 106 -1.91
Grade: D
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North Metro
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 37.48 38.75 +1.26
B2 18 23.07 25.79 +2.73
Overall 33 +2.14
Grade: A-
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Orono
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 40.33 42.77 +2.44
B1 13 31.83 31.79 -0.04
B2 13 25.73 26.61 +0.88
C 13 17.24 15.53 -1.71
Overall 52 +0.94
Grade: B-
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Osseo Maple Grove
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 45.11 43.31 -1.81
B1 Crimson 15 34.52 35.82 +1.30
B1 Gold 15 34.50 36.06 +1.56
B1 Orange 15 34.48 33.76 -0.72
B2 Black 15 24.50 25.77 +1.27
B2 White 15 24.48 26.04 +1.56
B2 Maroon 15 24.46 24.86 +0.40
C 15 13.87 16.25 +2.38
Overall 120 +0.45
Grade: C+
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Wayzata
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 45.69 46.98 +1.29
B1 Blue 15 37.13 36.31 -0.83
B1 Gold 15 37.11 36.37 -0.74
B1 Navy 15 32.26 33.11 +0.85
B2 Royal 15 25.01 25.38 +0.37
B2 Steel 15 25.00 25.23 +0.24
B2 White 15 24.98 25.96 +0.98
B2 Yellow 15 24.96 26.05 +1.09
C 15 13.30 14.08 +0.78
Overall 135 +0.38
Grade: B-
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You ask why does Wayzata have more teams than other comparable associations? Triple G is the answer…Greg G. Gibson, president of the Wayzata Youth Hockey Association. GGG is not a hockey guy…he’s an advocate for kids. His philosophy is, “if a kid wants to play hockey, we’ll put them on a team.” A great example of this was seen this fall when 80 kids had registered to play Junior Gold Hockey before the High School cuts. GGG was so excited to have these kids and put the word out to ice schedulers, coaches committee, various volunteer groups to find teams for everyone. Wayzata now sports 1 JGA, 3 JGB, and 2 U16 teams and everyone who tried out was put on a team.
I asked GGG for his definition of success as a hockey association. He laughed and said, “Did the kids have fun?”
I asked GGG for his definition of success as a hockey association. He laughed and said, “Did the kids have fun?”
District 4
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Albert Lea
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 36.22 33.93 -2.29
B2 13 21.21 20.63 -0.58
Overall 28 -1.60
Grade: D
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Austin
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 35.51 30.12 -5.39
B2 12 21.20 19.75 -1.45
Overall 25 -3.68
Grade: F
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Fairmont
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 15 29.49 24.55 -4.94
Overall 15 -4.94
Grade: F
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Faribault
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 12 37.85 37.49 -0.36
B2 11 27.66 26.42 -1.24
C 12 18.14 17.75 -0.39
Overall 35 -0.67
Grade: C
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Luverne
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 9 29.24 34.87 +5.63
B2 10 20.27 22.58 +2.31
Overall 19 +4.47
Grade: A+
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Mankato
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 38.91 38.97 +0.06
B2 14 29.62 31.35 +1.74
C 14 19.44 20.43 +0.99
Overall 41 +0.92
Grade: B
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Marshall
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 10 32.43 32.88 +0.44
B2 10 19.92 19.90 -0.02
Overall 20 +0.23
Grade: C+
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New Prague
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 12 39.37 40.79 +1.42
B1 12 30.78 30.77 -0.01
B2 11 23.99 27.31 +3.32
C 10 15.21 17.46 +2.25
Overall 45 +1.56
Grade: B+
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New Ulm
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 11 36.61 32.26 -4.35
B2 Purple 10 21.60 22.04 +0.44
B2 White 10 21.43 22.96 +1.53
Overall 31 -0.71
Grade: D+
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Owatonna
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 36.09 35.80 -0.29
B2 14 22.41 23.19 +0.79
Overall 27 +0.21
Grade: C+
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Redwood Falls
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 13 28.78 26.17 -2.61
Overall 13 -2.61
Grade: D-
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Sleepy Eye
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 13 28.78 28.50 -0.28
Overall 13 -0.28
Grade: C+
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St. Peter Le Sueur
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 11 34.64 37.57 +2.93
B2 12 21.82 19.34 -2.48
Overall 23 +1.07
Grade: C+
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Waseca
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 35.19 29.10 -6.09
B2 11 20.38 14.23 -6.14
Overall 24 -6.12
Grade: F
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Windom
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 13 28.78 23.98 -4.80
Overall 13 -4.80
Grade: F
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Worthington
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 14 29.32 27.88 -1.43
Overall 14 -1.43
Grade: D+
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I don't think youcan use high school enrollments to compare youth programs i.e. Eden Prairie and Wayzata, you'd have to compare the 6th and 7th grade enrollments. Some schools grow, some stay the same, and some lose. From what I understand EP is no longer growing which is part of the reason they won't build another high school, the Strib did a series of articles on that this fall.
I do agree whole heartedly with greybeard that having an active board that knows youth sports are for all kids is a far better way to run any youth sports organization than one who really only looks out for the top kids or, worse, board members kids. The unfortunate reality is with the passing of park boards running rec programs the former (like Wayzata) is far better and far less in numbers than the latter (Rochester).
I like how, at least from the outside, Luverne and a lot of the D4 teams run their program; they could easily make 1 B2 team and probably be very good but instead they have two teams with 10 kids on each and the kids get more ice time. The drawback would be an injury could put you over the edge as far as numbers go but again from the outside it looks like they're trying to get as many kids a chance to play as possible. I see some metro districts have 15-16 on a team and have 5-6 teams, make more teams with 12-13 kids.
I do agree whole heartedly with greybeard that having an active board that knows youth sports are for all kids is a far better way to run any youth sports organization than one who really only looks out for the top kids or, worse, board members kids. The unfortunate reality is with the passing of park boards running rec programs the former (like Wayzata) is far better and far less in numbers than the latter (Rochester).
I like how, at least from the outside, Luverne and a lot of the D4 teams run their program; they could easily make 1 B2 team and probably be very good but instead they have two teams with 10 kids on each and the kids get more ice time. The drawback would be an injury could put you over the edge as far as numbers go but again from the outside it looks like they're trying to get as many kids a chance to play as possible. I see some metro districts have 15-16 on a team and have 5-6 teams, make more teams with 12-13 kids.
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No question with the muslim in the white house, growth is all inner city.goldy313 wrote: From what I understand EP is no longer growing
I see some metro districts have 15-16 on a team and have 5-6 teams, make more teams with 12-13 kids.
Focused on winning trophies
Goldy you make too much sense, care to run for public office? I do like the mighty fine Big Red One jpeg you got on another 'bored'!!
Wayzata's enrollment has also been stagnant for at least 8-9 years. The poster who mentioned Greg Gibson probably has it right - the leader who looks out for all the kids, no matter their level, is the one who is best able to grow the organization, regardless of the number of kids at each age group.goldy313 wrote:I don't think youcan use high school enrollments to compare youth programs i.e. Eden Prairie and Wayzata, you'd have to compare the 6th and 7th grade enrollments. Some schools grow, some stay the same, and some lose. From what I understand EP is no longer growing which is part of the reason they won't build another high school, the Strib did a series of articles on that this fall.
District 5
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Buffalo
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.03 38.85 -0.18
B2 15 28.55 27.39 -1.17
C 11 17.11 19.10 +1.91
Overall 40 -0.06
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Crow River
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 39.61 39.60 +0.01
B2 Black 11 23.72 28.08 +4.36
B2 Orange 11 23.60 27.83 +4.23
B2 White 11 23.36 26.67 +3.31
Overall 46 +3.11
Grade: A
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Hutchinson
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 35.51 38.82 +3.31
B2 12 21.20 24.14 +2.94
Overall 25 +3.17
Grade: A+
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Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 11 33.62 35.20 +1.59
B2 9 17.22 20.82 +3.60
Overall 20 +2.65
Grade: A
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Monticello Annandale Maple Lake
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 37.01 34.51 -2.50
B2 16 22.56 24.18 +1.62
Overall 31 +0.14
Grade: C-
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Mound Westonka
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 38.59 37.89 -0.70
B2 13 28.78 37.10 -1.68
C 13 18.97 17.60 -1.37
Overall 39 -1.25
Grade: D+
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River Lakes
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 16 36.98 34.35 -2.63
B2 16 22.31 22.33 +0.02
Overall 32 -1.45
Grade: D
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Sartell
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.19 40.56 +1.37
B2 14 27.84 27.87 -1.18
C 13 19.93 19.93 +1.27
Overall 26 +0.37
Grade: C+
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St. Michael Albertville
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 39.76 41.47 +1.71
B2 15 29.76 30.49 +0.72
C 16 19.72 20.35 +0.63
Overall 46 +1.12
Grade: B
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Willmar
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 28.78 31.01 +2.23
Overall 13 +2.23
Grade: A-
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I'd like to see that, too. Based on high school enrollment a very loose ratio calculation of boys in hockey to boys in school:Alright, you got me. You have done two metro districts, how about D16?
Kennedy 1:14
Hutchinson 1:10
Luverne: 1:4
EGF 1:3
If Kennedy had as much recruitment and retention success as EGF they'd have 135 peewees, Hutchinson would have 80. If you include number of kids that
should be in the program, the grades you hand out would be drastically different.
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Perhaps the other way around ... only the more dedicated, motivated, and talented kids stay in the smaller associations so they will have more success. Larger associations may be more inclusive/ provide an opportunity for all skill and dedication levels ? does that mean there is a flaw or subjective part that is not quantifiable ... better associations by this measure are not factoring in providing a place all levels of skaters ?InigoMontoya wrote:So far the best associations are Kennedy, Luvurne, and Hutchinson.
The average association has about 42 kids that make about 3 teams.
The 3 best association average 23 kids on 2 teams.
In the best associations, why are kids staying away in droves?
just a thought
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A vs B1
The comment made regarding the disparity between Rosevilles A team vs their B1 team was interesting - I assume their are a lot of controllable factors that led to this disparity, such as, coaching ability, picking the wrong kids for the A team and some uncontrollable factors such as not a big 7th grade class or selecting the A team to play in the wrong tournaments.
I looked for the biggest difference between the A stats and B1 statistics (if there was more than one B1 team I combined the stats and divided by the number of teams) and out of the large associations it was interesting:
Roseville as the negative benchmark came in at -3.34
Of the so-called "Big 4" this is the difference:
OMG was a -2.52
Wayzata was the best with a +1.05
Edina was +.44
EP was +.72
I think the Edina difference of only +.44 is a testament that their A and B1 teams are dominant at both levels so you are not going to see much of difference, but, they do only have two B1 teams. If you had them with 3 B1 teams the spread would be higher and give a better reflection on how well their A team is developed.
The OMG is weird - they are big association with 3 B1 teams so their B1 teams should not be overly dominant. Their A team is highly ranked - data may be flawed.
EP and Wayzata do a really good job with their A teams. I would say the difference is to be expected.
Of the Second Tier Associations (I say Second Tier only because of size) the following jump out:
Burnsville: a very nice +1.78
Prior Lake: +1.44
Hopkins: +.39
Orono: +2.4 - doing something right at the A Level
Chaska: -.77
Eastview: +2.19
Prior Lake: +1.44
I looked for the biggest difference between the A stats and B1 statistics (if there was more than one B1 team I combined the stats and divided by the number of teams) and out of the large associations it was interesting:
Roseville as the negative benchmark came in at -3.34
Of the so-called "Big 4" this is the difference:
OMG was a -2.52
Wayzata was the best with a +1.05
Edina was +.44
EP was +.72
I think the Edina difference of only +.44 is a testament that their A and B1 teams are dominant at both levels so you are not going to see much of difference, but, they do only have two B1 teams. If you had them with 3 B1 teams the spread would be higher and give a better reflection on how well their A team is developed.
The OMG is weird - they are big association with 3 B1 teams so their B1 teams should not be overly dominant. Their A team is highly ranked - data may be flawed.
EP and Wayzata do a really good job with their A teams. I would say the difference is to be expected.
Of the Second Tier Associations (I say Second Tier only because of size) the following jump out:
Burnsville: a very nice +1.78
Prior Lake: +1.44
Hopkins: +.39
Orono: +2.4 - doing something right at the A Level
Chaska: -.77
Eastview: +2.19
Prior Lake: +1.44
Interesting idea but it's not working for me. I do appreciate the time you took to attempt to provide some analysis. To many variables to yield anything worthwhile. Assocatiations swing every year based on recruiting bubbles and, unfortunately, a lot is dependent on the quality of the dads at Mite and Squirt. I see the biggest factors as recruiting, quality of volunteers and quality of dad coaches at mite and squirt. Remember, growing mite numbers mean more and better volunteers as well. When assocations shrivel it's usually because they took their eye off recruiting, the volunteers move to high school or wear out. How about a list of 10 things to do to improve your association instead. Even if the data was good who cares. Everyone knows which ones are doing well and which ones need to work on improvement.
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Re: A vs B1
Perhaps this is simply a year that Roseville had enough depth at peewee to field two B1 teams. Since they only fielded one, it ends up being a really strong team.stupidiswhatstupiddoes wrote:The comment made regarding the disparity between Rosevilles A team vs their B1 team was interesting - I assume their are a lot of controllable factors that led to this disparity, such as, coaching ability, picking the wrong kids for the A team and some uncontrollable factors such as not a big 7th grade class or selecting the A team to play in the wrong tournaments.
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Re: A vs B1
Probably true - with 87 kids you could make an argument that Roseville should field two B1 teams. EP has roughly the same number of kids and they have two B1 teams and they are competitive.Wildcathcky wrote:Perhaps this is simply a year that Roseville had enough depth at peewee to field two B1 teams. Since they only fielded one, it ends up being a really strong team.stupidiswhatstupiddoes wrote:The comment made regarding the disparity between Rosevilles A team vs their B1 team was interesting - I assume their are a lot of controllable factors that led to this disparity, such as, coaching ability, picking the wrong kids for the A team and some uncontrollable factors such as not a big 7th grade class or selecting the A team to play in the wrong tournaments.
MPLS Park has 106 kids and only 1 B1 so that doesn't make sense other than they may be excellent judges of their talent pool and numbers alone would not justify increasing the amount of kids playing B1.
Edina, with 170+ kids only having two B1 teams kind of tells you that they really want to win at the B1 level. Maple Grove has 50 less kids and they have 3 B1 teams. Wayzata has 35 less kids and they have 3 B1 teams but I was told that they have two Upper B1's and one lower B1 - I thought they were balanced but guess not).
Wayzata, Edina and OMG should have two PeeWee A teams based upon their numbers and their talent pool.
Re: A vs B1
Don't forget about Lakeville??? They have one association and basically two of every level team.shootyoureyeout wrote:Probably true - with 87 kids you could make an argument that Roseville should field two B1 teams. EP has roughly the same number of kids and they have two B1 teams and they are competitive.Wildcathcky wrote:Perhaps this is simply a year that Roseville had enough depth at peewee to field two B1 teams. Since they only fielded one, it ends up being a really strong team.stupidiswhatstupiddoes wrote:The comment made regarding the disparity between Rosevilles A team vs their B1 team was interesting - I assume their are a lot of controllable factors that led to this disparity, such as, coaching ability, picking the wrong kids for the A team and some uncontrollable factors such as not a big 7th grade class or selecting the A team to play in the wrong tournaments.
MPLS Park has 106 kids and only 1 B1 so that doesn't make sense other than they may be excellent judges of their talent pool and numbers alone would not justify increasing the amount of kids playing B1.
Edina, with 170+ kids only having two B1 teams kind of tells you that they really want to win at the B1 level. Maple Grove has 50 less kids and they have 3 B1 teams. Wayzata has 35 less kids and they have 3 B1 teams but I was told that they have two Upper B1's and one lower B1 - I thought they were balanced but guess not).
Wayzata, Edina and OMG should have two PeeWee A teams based upon their numbers and their talent pool.
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Re: District 4
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Albert Lea Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 15 36.22 33.93 -2.29 B2 13 21.21 20.63 -0.58 Overall 28 -1.60 Grade: D ------------------------------------------------------- Austin Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 13 35.51 30.12 -5.39 B2 12 21.20 19.75 -1.45 Overall 25 -3.68 Grade: F ------------------------------------------------------- Fairmont Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference B2 15 29.49 24.55 -4.94 Overall 15 -4.94 Grade: F ------------------------------------------------------- Faribault Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 12 37.85 37.49 -0.36 B2 11 27.66 26.42 -1.24 C 12 18.14 17.75 -0.39 Overall 35 -0.67 Grade: C ------------------------------------------------------- Luverne Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 9 29.24 34.87 +5.63 B2 10 20.27 22.58 +2.31 Overall 19 +4.47 Grade: A+ ------------------------------------------------------- Mankato Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 13 38.91 38.97 +0.06 B2 14 29.62 31.35 +1.74 C 14 19.44 20.43 +0.99 Overall 41 +0.92 Grade: B ------------------------------------------------------- Marshall Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 10 32.43 32.88 +0.44 B2 10 19.92 19.90 -0.02 Overall 20 +0.23 Grade: C+ ------------------------------------------------------- New Prague Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 12 39.37 40.79 +1.42 B1 12 30.78 30.77 -0.01 B2 11 23.99 27.31 +3.32 C 10 15.21 17.46 +2.25 Overall 45 +1.56 Grade: B+ ------------------------------------------------------- New Ulm Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 11 36.61 32.26 -4.35 B2 Purple 10 21.60 22.04 +0.44 B2 White 10 21.43 22.96 +1.53 Overall 31 -0.71 Grade: D+ ------------------------------------------------------- Owatonna Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 13 36.09 35.80 -0.29 B2 14 22.41 23.19 +0.79 Overall 27 +0.21 Grade: C+ ------------------------------------------------------- Redwood Falls Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference B2 13 28.78 26.17 -2.61 Overall 13 -2.61 Grade: D- ------------------------------------------------------- Sleepy Eye Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference B2 13 28.78 28.50 -0.28 Overall 13 -0.28 Grade: C+ ------------------------------------------------------- St. Peter Le Sueur Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 11 34.64 37.57 +2.93 B2 12 21.82 19.34 -2.48 Overall 23 +1.07 Grade: C+ ------------------------------------------------------- Waseca Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference A 13 35.19 29.10 -6.09 B2 11 20.38 14.23 -6.14 Overall 24 -6.12 Grade: F ------------------------------------------------------- Windom Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference B2 13 28.78 23.98 -4.80 Overall 13 -4.80 Grade: F ------------------------------------------------------- Worthington Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference B2 14 29.32 27.88 -1.43 Overall 14 -1.43 Grade: D+ -------------------------------------------------------
Where did you find these stats? Interesting- I would like to see for D3 and D6
District 8
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Cottage Grove
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 39.90 38.61 -1.29
B1 15 30.02 30.79 +0.77
C 17 20.01 21.69 +1.68
Overall 47 +0.13
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Dodge County
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 12 37.67 35.79 -1.69
B2 11 27.32 23.50 -3.82
C 11 18.14 14.85 -3.29
Overall 34 -2.79
Grade: F
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Eagan
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 43.93 39.79 -4.14
B1 Blue 14 34.39 35.34 +0.95
B1 Green 14 34.39 32.94 -1.45
B2 Blue 13 26.60 23.52 -3.08
B2 Green 13 36.58 23.18 -3.40
C Blue 13 17.56 18.69 +1.13
C Green 13 17.40 17.73 +0.32
Overall 95 -1.52
Grade: D-
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Farmington
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 41.65 42.39 +0.74
B1 Black 13 31.43 34.42 +2.99
B1 Orange 13 31.46 32.55 +1.09
B2 13 24.06 24.58 +0.52
C 14 16.58 16.95 +0.37
Overall 44 +1.34
Grade: B
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Hastings
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 40.56 39.63 -0.93
B1 13 31.16 32.16 +1.00
B2 12 24.83 25.96 +1.13
C 12 16.71 17.24 +0.54
Overall 51 +0.35
Grade: C+
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Hudson
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 41.65 42.94 +1.29
B1 14 34.35 32.02 -2.33
B2 13 28.60 28.33 -0.27
C Blue 13 19.86 23.76 +3.90
C Red 13 19.70 20.85 +1.16
Overall 66 +0.52
Grade: C+
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Inver Grove Heights
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A* 7 40.46 40.42 -0.04
B1 14 31.54 31.84 +0.31
C 13 19.86 21.42 +1.56
Overall 34 +0.31
*A team is co-op with South St. Paul
Grade: B-
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La Crescent
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B1 11 27.66 30.83 +3.17
Overall 34 +3.17
Grade: A+
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Lakeville North
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 42.12 43.02 +0.93
B1 15 33.79 34.08 +0.29
B2 Red 13 25.46 29.60 +4.14
B2 Black 13 25.42 26.74 +1.32
C 13 15.17 19.60 +4.43
Overall 69 +1.73
Grade: B
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Lakeville South
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 42.03 43.77 +1.74
B1 15 33.66 31.87 -1.79
B2 13 27.71 29.34 +1.63
C Crimson 12 18.99 19.31 +0.32
C Gold 12 18.84 20.60 +1.76
Overall 67 +0.79
Grade: C+
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Northfield
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 10 32.43 34.08 +1.65
B2 10 19.92 20.22 +0.30
Overall 20 +1.01
Grade: B
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Red Wing
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 11 34.32 35.08 +0.76
B2 11 20.99 23.32 +2.32
Overall 22 +1.49
Grade: B
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River Falls
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B1 10 35.51 28.86 -6.65
C 10 21.20 16.17 -5.03
Overall 20 -6.05
Grade: F
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Rosemount
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 41.81 43.15 +1.34
B1 Gold 13 31.75 33.31 +1.56
B1 Blue 13 31.72 34.62 +2.90
B2 15 24.79 25.02 +0.23
C 14 16.42 17.92 +1.51
Overall 68 +1.62
Grade: B+
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Rochester
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 45.88 44.46 -1.43
B1 White 14 36.16 32.69 -3.46
B1 Black 14 36.12 33.65 -2.47
B1 Red 13 35.75 32.48 -3.27
B2 Black 15 29.50 26.69 -2.81
B2 Red 15 29.49 26.68 -2.81
C1 16 20.15 --- ---
C2 13 19.67 --- ---
C3 15 19.42 --- ---
C4 12 19.42 --- ---
Overall 141 -2.67
Note: C Teams not factored in as they do not play outside of their own association.
Grade: D-
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Sibley Area
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.35 38.49 -0.86
B1 14 29.32 30.36 +1.05
C 14 19.28 19.04 -0.24
Overall 42 +0.07
Grade: C
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South St. Paul
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A* 5 40.46 40.42 -0.04
B1 10 28.74 31.59 +2.85
C 11 19.83 21.22 +1.38
Overall 26 +1.45
*A team is co-op with Inver Grove Heights
Grade: B+
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Winona
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B1 15 29.49 31.38 +1.89
Overall 26 +1.89
Grade: A-
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Woodbury
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 44.95 43.07 -1.88
B1 Blue 15 35.98 35.92 -0.06
B1 White 15 35.96 33.88 -2.08
B2 Black 14 27.57 28.06 +0.49
B2 Blue 14 27.57 29.65 +2.07
B2 White 14 27.57 28.91 +1.34
C White 15 17.67 19.09 +1.42
C Blue 14 16.93 19.72 +2.79
Overall 116 +0.05
Grade: C
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Andover
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 42.46 44.18 +1.72
B1 15 34.57 31.28 -3.29
B2 Black 14 29.15 28.58 -0.56
B2 Gold 14 24.08 21.80 -2.28
C 14 16.18 17.08 +0.90
Overall 71 -0.54
Grade: C -
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Anoka
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 41.59 40.86 -0.72
B1 15 32.94 32.69 -0.26
B2 Maroon 16 22.38 28.32 +5.85
B2 White 16 22.27 25.08 +2.81
Overall 62 +1.80
Grade: B
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Blaine
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 43.17 41.18 -1.99
B1 15 35.65 34.35 -1.29
B2 Black 13 26.27 25.25 -1.02
B2 Blue 13 26.24 26.14 -0.10
B2 White 13 26.21 25.23 -0.98
C 13 14.84 14.62 -0.23
Overall 81 -0.95
Grade: C -
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Cambridge Isanti North Branch
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 39.47 36.50 -2.97
B1 15 29.21 27.66 -1.55
B2 14 18.99 16.94 -2.04
Overall 44 -2.25
Grade: D -
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Centennial
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 43.15 42.26 -0.90
B1 15 35.38 34.22 -1.16
B2 Gray 13 26.14 27.36 +1.22
B2 Black 13 26.11 27.82 +1.70
B2 White 13 26.08 26.50 +0.42
C 13 14.78 16.97 +2.19
Overall 82 +0.43
Grade: C +
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Champlin Park
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 41.48 39.56 -1.92
B1 13 33.67 33.79 +0.13
B2 Blue 13 28.60 26.10 -2.49
B2 White 13 23.46 22.22 -1.24
C 12 15.48 13.26 -2.22
Overall 64 -1.46
Grade: D +
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Chisago Lakes
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 11 38.66 38.06 -0.59
B1 11 30.58 31.29 +0.71
B2 11 24.74 23.42 -1.31
C 11 16.66 17.68 +1.02
Overall 44 -0.16
Grade: C +
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Coon Rapids
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.35 38.23 -1.12
B1 14 29.32 29.60 +0.28
C 14 19.28 19.98 +0.69
Overall 42 -0.05
Grade: C +
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Elk River
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 42.44 46.04 +3.59
B1 14 34.27 34.74 +0.47
B2 Black 14 26.84 27.31 +0.47
B2 Red 14 26.84 26.74 -0.09
C 15 16.55 16.21 -0.33
Overall 72 +1.04
Grade: B -
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Mora
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B1 10 32.76 29.46 -3.30
B2 11 21.33 24.44 +3.11
Overall 21 +0.58
Grade: D +
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Pine City
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B1 11 35.48 27.43 -8.05
B2 15 23.37 15.98 -7.39
Overall 26 -7.64
Grade: F
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Princeton
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 40.06 37.98 -2.08
B1 12 30.16 28.87 -1.29
B2 12 23.95 23.74 -0.21
C 9 12.99 14.79 +1.80
Overall 47 -0.60
Grade: C -
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Rogers
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 40.68 39.18 -1.49
B1 14 31.70 30.52 -1.18
B2 12 24.66 24.28 -0.38
C 12 16.60 16.75 +0.15
Overall 52 -0.77
Grade: C
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Sauk Rapids
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B1 10 33.35 36.99 +3.64
B2 13 22.71 25.06 +2.35
Overall 23 +2.95
Grade: A +
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Spring Lake Park
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 38.91 39.32 +0.41
B1 14 29.62 29.81 +0.19
B2 14 19.44 18.51 -0.93
Overall 41 +0.05
Grade: C +
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St. Cloud
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 15 42.88 39.64 -3.24
B1 Black 14 32.62 34.00 +1.38
B1 Red 13 32.31 33.52 +1.21
B2 Red 12 23.55 25.76 +2.21
B2 Black 12 23.54 21.86 -1.69
C 12 14.47 11.43 -3.04
Overall 78 -0.50
Grade: D +
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St. Francis
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 12 38.20 39.30 +1.11
B1 14 28.98 26.83 -2.15
B2 11 17.64 17.93 +0.29
Overall 37 -0.28
Grade: C -
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Ashland
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 13 28.39 22.69 -5.70
Overall 13 -5.70
Grade: F
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Cloquet
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.79 40.30 +0.51
B2 White 15 25.32 28.20 +2.88
B2 Purple 16 24.31 26.71 +2.40
Overall 45 +1.58
Grade: B +
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Duluth East
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 18 39.32 41.32 +2.00
B2 Black 15 23.91 33.05 +9.14
B2 Red 15 23.76 29.19 +5.43
Overall 48 +4.09
Grade: A +
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Duluth Lakers
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.35 40.80 +1.45
B2 Red 14 24.37 25.83 +1.47
B2 Black 14 24.24 27.34 +3.10
Overall 42 +2.00
Grade: B +
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Hermantown
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 38.33 40.00 +1.67
B2 Blue 11 22.36 27.20 +4.85
B2 White 11 22.14 25.10 +2.96
Overall 36 +3.10
Grade: A +
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Moose Lake
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 Blue 12 28.39 23.27 -5.12
Overall 12 -5.12
Grade: F
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Proctor
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 35.51 36.77 +1.26
B2 12 21.20 23.42 +1.81
Overall 25 +1.39
Grade: B +
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Silver Bay
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 12 28.39 22.69 -5.70
Overall 12 -5.70
Grade: F
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Superior
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 38.26 39.36 +1.10
B2 Blue 12 23.40 24.12 +0.71
B2 White 12 23.25 26.65 +3.40
Overall 37 +1.44
Grade: B +
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Two Harbors
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 12 28.39 25.45 -2.94
Overall 12 -2.94
Grade: F
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Bemidji
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 37.90 43.01 +5.11
B2 Blue 11 22.59 23.07 +0.48
B2 White 11 22.37 23.02 +0.65
Overall 34 +2.31
Grade: A -
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Crookston
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 12 34.25 40.64 +6.39
B2 11 16.94 21.07 +4.12
Overall 23 +5.66
Grade: A +
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East Grand Forks
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 39.35 47.05 +7.70
B1 15 29.20 31.47 +2.27
B2 13 18.51 27.48 +8.98
Overall 42 +6.51
Grade: A +
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Hallock
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 28.78 33.50 +4.72
Overall 13 +4.72
Grade: A +
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Lake of the Woods
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 28.78 32.41 +3.63
Overall 13 +3.63
Grade: A +
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Red Lake Falls
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
B2 10 23.28 26.82 +3.44
Overall 10 +3.44
Grade: A +
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Roseau
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 14 36.51 36.88 +0.49
B2 14 22.12 23.19 +1.07
Overall 28 +0.74
Grade: B -
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Thief River Falls
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 35.81 40.23 +4.42
B2 13 21.76 21.74 -0.01
Overall 26 +2.00
Grade: B +
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Warroad
Team Skaters Expected Actual Difference
A 13 28.78 33.81 +5.03
Overall 24 +5.03
Grade: A +
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